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Hi,

 

I have a Jackie Treble concertina and the range is G below middle C on the piano up to the C two octaves above middle C.

 

I know that the Jack Baritone has a range of exactly one octave below this.

 

However I am confused about the range of other ECs.

 

For instance what is the range of a tenor, tenor-treble or a baritone-treble?

 

Is there a chart anywhere on here that I could refer to?

 

I would be very grateful for any information on this subject.

 

Many Thanks

 

Les

Edited by Daddy Long Les
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Yes there are keyboard charts here. Some very good ones made by Geoffrey Crabb. If you search the words 'Tenor' , 'Tenor Treble' , Baritone, Baritone Treble , and Bass you should come up with some nice diagrams.

 

You can also try at concertina.com where there is lots of written material including original price lists and tutor books which have note range charts.

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Thanks Geoff. I have just looked on both sites but apart from a generic chart for the EC I've drawn a blank. Is there anyway you could provide me with a specific link?

 

Many Thanks

 

Les

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Having done a little research would I be right in saying that a tenor EC is pitched somewhat below a treble. i.e. the lowest note is C (Bass clef second space and the highest note F (Treble clef fifth line)?

 

Therefore, a tenor-treble goes up as high as a treble but has the extra low notes down to the C (Bass clef second space)?

Edited by Daddy Long Les
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Having done a little research would I be right in saying that a tenor EC is pitched somewhat below a treble. i.e. the lowest note is C (Bass clef second space and the highest note F (Treble clef fifth line)?

 

Therefore, a tenor-treble goes up as high as a treble but has the extra low notes down to the C (Bass clef second space)?

 

If you go to Wheatstone English Concertina price list for 1925 ( for instance), on the concertina.com website, it shows firstly the button layout for a 56 Treble... G to G four octaves from G below middle C. Then it will show the ranges of varius models.

 

But quickly and taking the 48 treble ( G below middle C to C above the fifth ledger line beyond the treble stave)... then the Tenor treble is a 56 that adds the notes down to C an octave below Middle C.

 

Tenor is usually a 48 that starts on the C an octave under middle C.

 

Baritone is either a 48 pitched a octave lower than a Treble or a 56 an octave belows the 56 Treble ( usually called an extended Treble).This has the Low G ( on the lowest line of the Bass clef) on the right hand end.Also exists in 64 key versions.

 

A Baritone-Treble is basically a treble with a keyboard that continues downwards keeping the same patern untill it reaches that G on the bottom line of the Bass clef , only now that note will be on the Left hand end. These come in 56, 62 and 64 key models.

 

There are variants and specials too. A wee bit confusing but this is the basics.

 

Basses exist in several sizes too, both single and double action.

Edited by Geoff Wooff
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Having done a little research would I be right in saying that a tenor EC is pitched somewhat below a treble. i.e. the lowest note is C (Bass clef second space and the highest note F (Treble clef fifth line)?

 

Therefore, a tenor-treble goes up as high as a treble but has the extra low notes down to the C (Bass clef second space)?

 

If you go to Wheatstone English Concertina price list for 1925 ( for instance), on the concertina.com website, it shows firstly the button layout for a 56 Treble... G to G four octaves from G below middle C. Then it will show the ranges of varius models.

 

But quickly and taking the 48 treble ( G below middle C to C above the fifth ledger line beyond the treble stave)... then the Tenor treble is a 56 that adds the notes down to C an octave below Middle C.

 

Tenor is usually a 48 that starts on the C an octave under middle C.

 

Baritone is either a 48 pitched a octave lower than a Treble or a 56 an octave belows the 56 Treble ( usually called an extended Treble).This has the Low G ( on the lowest line of the Bass clef) on the right hand end.Also exists in 64 key versions.

 

A Baritone-Treble is basically a treble with a keyboard that continues downwards keeping the same patern untill it reaches that G on the bottom line of the Bass clef , only now that note will be on the Left hand end. These come in 56, 62 and 64 key models.

 

There are variants and specials too. A wee bit confusing but this is the basics.

 

Basses exist in several sizes too, both single and double action.

 

Thanks Geoff - I really appreciate your help!

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