MatthewVanitas Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) At the risk of heresy: if she's into Morris dancing, has she also considered a melodeon? Broadly speaking, melodeon differs from Anglo concertina in that melodeon is slightly larger/heavier, generally a little louder, and instead of all buttons playing individual notes, the right hand buttons are individual and the left-hand buttons play chords. Here are three melodeonists and one concertinist in a Morris side: With your daughter's interests, I'd say an Anglo concertina or a two-row melodeon in D/G (standard Morris item) would be the way to go. Again, totally a personal call as to which is best for her, in terms of ergonomics, playing style, and sound she enjoys. Pricing is relatively similar for starter levels, broadly around the £300 range. In contrast with concertina, there are more Chinese factories that have puzzled out decent melodeons, so there are a few more "safe" foreign-made options that are decent starters. As a contrast in sounds: - Morris tune on concertina (played by a US member here): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFhTavv9uI4 - Same tune on a melodeon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr9bPoObTHU Note that the melodeon has a bigger sound for having multiple reeds chorusing on the same note, and the bass/chord in the background is a heavier bounce. Whereas the concertina is a little smaller with a "cleaner" and purer sound, and a lighter touch. Both are great, it just depends what she finds appealing. If her interest is specifically Morris, I'd suggest asking around your Morris community, as it's very likely you have a few folks who play both concertina and melodeon for Morris, and would be able to sit down with her for a bit and let her try them out. If she should happen to lean melodeon instead after doing her research, I suggest going to the very good http://forum.melodeon.netand asking similar to what you asked here, just now knowing to specify her interests/style in the post so everyone knows what page you're on, and probably mentioning "Morris" and "London" in the subject line so you draw the right experts. Now, if she watches some clips and finds concertina the appealing one, we have a number of experienced Morris concertinists on this board. In such case, again a fresh thread in General for "Teen starting on Morris concertina in West London?" might get you exactly the folks you need to talk to! Hope all this is giving you a path forward. Even if she ends up going melodeon, feel free to pop back into this thread to let us know how it all worked out. EDIT: as a minor sidenote, either concertina or melodeon would also work well for playing pop covers and any other such interests your daughter has, they aren't purely applicable to folk. As a minor example, here's Beatles on concertina (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC-2R_3fIwM) and on melodeon ( ). "Pop" tunes from way before my time, but one could pretty easily knock out some Lorde, Lily Allen, or other popular singer pieces on these instruments as well. Edited November 6, 2014 by MatthewVanitas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_holden Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Not sure how common it is, but I have seen Morris sides dancing to English concertina(s). (Then again I've also seen a side with an electric bass guitar!) Melodeons do seem pretty ubiquitous though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqzbxr Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 The concertina in the above picture appears to be an English Edeophone. If any of the regular musicians for the side play melodeon, I would strongly suggest going that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Molkentin Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Not sure how common it is, but I have seen Morris sides dancing to English concertina(s). Kettlebridge Clogs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wild Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Not sure how common it is, but I have seen Morris sides dancing to English concertina(s). Kettlebridge Clogs! We have a mix of instruments. The 2 english concertinas provide a tone or pitch contrast to the accordions and melodeon. - John Wild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wild Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I was attending a music oriented science fiction convention that my wife had dragged me to. Did you play Sprach Zarathustra ? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_holden Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) The Britannia Coco-nut dancers is one - they dance to a brass band on their big outing of the year, but the rest of the time they dance to EC I believe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn-qs1MnYU4 (BTW the coco-nuts are the wooden discs in the dancers hands that they clap in time to the music.) Edited November 7, 2014 by alex_holden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrisminor Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 We will take a look at the melodeon. I thought being smaller, a concertina might be easier but maybe I was just wrong about that. Thanks again to everyone for their help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdormire Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Now to be fair, that weekend I was attending a music oriented science fiction convention that my wife had dragged me to. ... you mean, a FilkCon? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdormire Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 .."a music oriented science fiction convention.."! Uh… ! And I believe there is one in Oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewVanitas Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 We will take a look at the melodeon. I thought being smaller, a concertina might be easier but maybe I was just wrong about that. Thanks again to everyone for their help. "Easier" is subjective, really she's best to just try a little of each and decide. Definitely ask around her Morris contacts, surely there must be dozens and dozens of Morris concertina/melodeon players in London, maybe hundreds. Through such contacts you can get some friendly advice, as well as help finding an instrument. So far as size, a standard beginner melodeon probably weighs about 6lbs, a Rochelle concertina 3lb (and finer concertinas a bit lighter). So a weight difference, but neither is a lead brick. There are some lighter melodeons that some Morris players favor that are as little as 4lb, though those are pricier than a beginner probably wants. In any case, the same basic advice applies for either: your daughter will want to spend some time on YouTube looking at music played by both melodeon and Anglo concertina. She'll want to meet with some other Morris musicians and get some hands-on practice, and whatever you buy you'll want to buy it from a reputable dealer who knows squeezeboxes well and backs their product, and is the right instrument in the right key. So resist any urge to grab a "good deal" of getting an Acme Brand key of Bb/F melodon from a flea market. You don't have to spend a lot to get a good starter, but you want to make sure you do get a good starter since it's a miserable experience to try to start on a shoddy instrument. Hope all goes well in your girl's quest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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