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Circa 1885 Lachenal Anglo


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I know that you may have seen this already in another thread on this forum but I thought that I would post it here too, as this is where it really belongs...

 

My Lachenal Anglo with the serial number 87119 has just been dated to circa 1885 by Randall Merris, which I'm really pleased about...

 

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Can I add that we've been discussing the leaving of historical messages inside concertinas at the other location HansiRowe mentioned (prompted by image 3 above). It lead me to wonder if we should ask current makers to encourage owners and repairers to contribute to the future history of their instruments by including prompts for the information we'd like to find. You'll find that discussion at http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17000 . It would be interesting to hear from historians what those prompts should be, and from makers, how best could it be achieved in practice?

 

Terry

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>My Lachenal Anglo with the serial number 87119 has just been dated to circa 1885

 

I've just acquired my first concertina - a Lachenal 20 button C/G Anglo. It has the serial number 74693 and I'm told it

is dated to 1895.

 

Looking at it 'logically', assuming that the serial numbers correlate (roughly) with date, there's an inconsistency here?

 

So my question is, were these things numbered sequentially, or was there a different sequence of numbers for different

models? Looking at the pictures, my instrument is similar to yours but not *exactly* the same - the 'window' through which

the serial number is visible is a different shape on mine, so it's a different model?

 

I can't see any information about Lachenal serial numbers on the Digital Concertina Archive which answers this question.

 

I'm trying to find out as much about mine as I can. Any thoughts?

 

Thanks.

 

Roger Hare.

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There have been a few different attempts at dating Lachenals, so you need to know which (whose?) method was used for the date you were given. I'd predict that serial number 74693 would be 1878-1887 based on work I did back in 2009 with Randall Merris's database from ~2007. My figures would give 1881-1887 for serial number 87119, so Randy may have acquired more data in the last seven years that gives him better estimates today. But we do agree generally on approximate dates.

 

The figures I use for Lachenal anglos are somewhere on this site, but it won't hurt to give them again.

 

1..1500: 1862-1864

1500..3200: 1862-1867

3201..25200: 1862-1878

25201..44700: 1872-1878

44701..46999: 1876-1878

47000: 1878

47001..51000: 1878-1881

51001..61900: 1878-1885

61901..80600: 1878-1887

80601..92000: 1881-1887

92001..102500: 1885-1893

102501...14500:1885-1896

140501..144400: 1895-1897

144001..152600: 1895-1918

152601..172000: 1897-1918

172001..187400: 1904-1918

187401..196800: 1904-1927

196801..201100: 1926-1933

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>The figures I use for Lachenal anglos are somewhere on this site...

 

Thank you for the serial numbers and projected dates. A lot more information than I had before!

 

>can you post a photo of yours, would love to see it?

 

I have sent pictures before restoration to your private email. It is my intention to use a picture of the

infernal machine as my 'signature' picture when I get my act together...

 

Roger

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OK, I've tried to attach three pictures to this reply - seems to have worked. These pictures were taken

about three weeks ago before restoration by Nigel Sture down here in Devon.

 

Hope they are of interest.

 

Roger

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