Folken Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Hi all, The other day I was searching online for the violin sheet music for the song "The Cuckold Comes out of the Amery" as performed in the film "Master and Commander" (listen here). Somehow I stumbled on a .temp file from this website (r and Commander" (listen here). Somehow I stumbled on a .temp file from this website (http://www.concertina.net/tunes-temp/1166.pdf ), and, not realizing it was a temporary file, I bookmarked it to print later. Next time I clicked it, naturally, it came up as a 404. I've been kicking myself ever since-- I did want to learn that one. Does anyone here know who uploaded that file, and where I can find the music? The original poster said it was *transcribed* from the movie, so the music would have been stylized from the original tune. The PDF was several pages long. Thanks so much for the help! ( I apologize if I have posted this in the wrong forum.... correct me and I'll move it to the right one)
alex_holden Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 There's some ABC over here: http://thesession.org/tunes/7116 I'm guessing the temp page you found was the result of somebody pasting the ABC into this page: http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html
Folken Posted June 23, 2014 Author Posted June 23, 2014 Thank you! That might have been it, but I *highly* doubt it-- the PDF I found was not a simple tune, it was detailed and extensive-- transcribed from the soundtrack, not just the generic tune.
sqzbxr Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Read the beginning of this page - this might be what you are looking for: http://www.dragonflymusic.co.uk/sheetmusic01.html
RobSay Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Well now - there's a story to that piece ... Cuckold is a very old tune and has many different sets of variations - mostly stemming from Border piping and Northumbrian piping traditions. The baseline version for many years was that in the Peacock tuneback - of which there are numerous facsimilies (such as here: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/musicfiles/manuscripts/peacock.pdf). A chap by the name of Matt Seattle has done an extraordinary amount of work to recover old forgotten music & manuscripts and make it available in various forms. His musical journey has lead him to the Border pipes, the discovery of the Dixon manuscript and fascination with all things variable in the BP repetoire. Some while ago he published (in one of his early books I think) a setting of Cuckold that was very definitely his version (reworked orginal themes, sustantial new variations etc). Whoever it was that did the music for M&C went for authenticity and played music 'of the period'. If you're looking for 18th century vernacular music from Scotland - at some point you will come across Matt's work... Anyway when the soundtrack CD to Master & Commander came out, somehow Matt's variation set was one of the pieces .. and it was not attributed to him (I choose to err on the charitable 'genuine oversight' here). As with all things of this ilk (i.e. marked trad), the 'arrangement' was copyrighted to whoever did the recording* - Fox music in this case. Fortunately Matt was in the Union and had a pretty clear trail of evidence (published books are sort of a gold standard really ...) - and Fox eventually agreed the work needed to be recognised as belonging to Matt So if you want Matt's setting of the tune, you need to find a copy of the Border Bagpipe book (now out of print) ... or write to him; he's a terribly nice chap: http://www.dragonflymusic.co.uk/ - given the history ... any random copies floating around on the internet aren't really going to be popular. * © is highly unbalanced hammer for old trad music
RobSay Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Read the beginning of this page - this might be what you are looking for: http://www.dragonflymusic.co.uk/sheetmusic01.html ah ha - Definitely spent too long writing my reply There you have it in Matt's own words! R
Pete Dunk Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Not Matt Seattle's version but tune and variations nonetheless. Cuckold
Folken Posted June 24, 2014 Author Posted June 24, 2014 Thank you so much, gentlemen! I contacted Mr. Seattle, and he does have sheet music, though not the exact transcription as done in M&C. I might just have to settle, though.
Jack Campin Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 Whatever "tallship" uploaded got me this message: Microsoft services are designed for you, but maybe not for your browser Helpful I don't think. What was it and can I find it elsewhere?
sqzbxr Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 Whatever "tallship" uploaded got me this message:Microsoft services are designed for you, but maybe not for your browser Helpful I don't think. What was it and can I find it elsewhere? It appears to be Microsoft Word Online. One of the options was to download a PDF of the tune, which I have done and placed here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61700296/Cuckold%20Come%20Out%20Of%20The%20Amery.pdf
Wolf Molkentin Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 Whatever "tallship" uploaded got me this message:Microsoft services are designed for you, but maybe not for your browser Helpful I don't think. From my location in Europy I can easily download the file - what I thus did....!
Pete Dunk Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 Whatever "tallship" uploaded got me this message:Microsoft services are designed for you, but maybe not for your browser Helpful I don't think. What was it and can I find it elsewhere? I'm not sure why you got that message but you will find the content in a more digestible form here
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