Geoff Wooff Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Very nice 'laid back' Mazurka playing Tona !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Molkentin Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Very nice 'laid back' Mazurka playing Tona !! Yes indeed! And as to the tune I might give it a try myself if you wouldn't mind me - sounds like a good choice for my first mazurka... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tona Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Thanks, Geoff : "laid back" is because of my kind of pajamas when I took the video?... BES : Glad to have given you desire to learn this tune! Sorry I don't have score but I think it is easy to learn it by ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Molkentin Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 BES : Glad to have given you desire to learn this tune! Sorry I don't have score but I think it is easy to learn it by ear. Yes, I've quickly got melody and chords from your recording, it's fun to play; however I'll have to work out something replacing the oomp-pah... Will provide my recording shortly. Best wishes - Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Fisher Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 My practice time is still quite limited, but I've managed to randomly choose a French Mazurka to learn and here it is: https://soundcloud.com/7wheels-1/mazurka-des-ecoliers-de-saint My internet sources say that it was composed by Gilles Chabenat and is called "mazurka des écoliers de Saint Genest". I'm still not quite clear as to what contributes to the essential Mazurkaness of a piece. If anyone has views on this I'd like to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Wilson Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Very nice Robert. Any chance you might make it to Cobargo this weekend? Cheers Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Besser Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 My practice time is still quite limited, but I've managed to randomly choose a French Mazurka to learn and here it is: https://soundcloud.com/7wheels-1/mazurka-des-ecoliers-de-saint My internet sources say that it was composed by Gilles Chabenat and is called "mazurka des écoliers de Saint Genest". I'm still not quite clear as to what contributes to the essential Mazurkaness of a piece. If anyone has views on this I'd like to know! Interesting tune; it's going on my to-learn list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Mazurkas as played in France are slower than waltzes and have a more marked rhythm perhaps something like: O-N-E, t, three ( slight hesitation). O-N-E, t ,three. A metronome speed of about 60 beats per minute ( whereas Waltzes can be 70 to 80 bpm)... but speed varies from region to region and sometimes are very slow. Tona's playing is a good example , listen to his slight hésitations going into each bar, how he keeps the 'Pa -Pa's on the left hand very clipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Mansfield Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 <snip> I'm still not quite clear as to what contributes to the essential Mazurkaness of a piece. If anyone has views on this I'd like to know! There was a discussion on this very topic a while ago, http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=7057 which covers the main points, but a good very rough rule of thumb is that if it's ONE-two-three ONE-two-three it's a waltz, whereas if it's one-two-three one-two-three it's more likely to be a mazurka. Gilles Chabenat plays hurdy-gurdy, and the trompette (the part of the gurdy that gives the buzzing emphasis) is used very differently on the two types of tune as I've tried to calligraphically illustrate above. It's all quite subtle gradations of tempo and emphasis that I find very hard to put into words but can hear and (hopefully) play. Have a listen to Gilles, La Chavannee, Trio Patrick Bouffard, and Blowzabella to name but some, and the difference will hopefully become apparent (and even if it doesn't, any time spent listening to those guys is always a joy). Another sure-fire way of telling is that if my wife gets me up to dance it's a mazurka, whereas if she leaves me to play the tune it's a waltz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Fisher Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Interesting tune; it's going on my to-learn list! The music I used to learn... though not exactly what I ended up playing: X:1 T:Mazurka des ecoliers de Saint-Genest M:3/4 K:Emin L:1/8 E FE|:B2 Bc de|B3 B cB|A2 BA GF|G2 EE FE|B2 Bc de| B3 B cB|A2 BA GF|1 E3 E FE:|2 E4 ed|]: c2 cB cd| e3 e dc|B2 BA Bc|BG E2 ed|c2 cB cd|e3 e dc| B2 AG FG|1 F2 E2 ed:|2 E3 E FE|] E6 |] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Fisher Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Very nice Robert. Any chance you might make it to Cobargo this weekend? Cheers Steve. I'm afraid that we won't be going this year... too much going on at the moment. I'd love to go though and camp for the weekend... so maybe next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Scannell Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Valse Petit Déjeuner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Valse Petit Déjeuner Nicely done Patrick ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Molkentin Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Valse Petit Déjeuner Nicely done Patrick ! Yes, a successful take on the theme! (I'm still rehearsing "my" Mazurka, will contribute within the next days...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Scannell Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Thanks. I'm unhappy with the hesisitation in the B part, but my wife is tired of it, and I want to get going on the Blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Molkentin Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) Patrick, I've both experienced both (own unhappiness vs . "her" fatigue) myself! But that 's alright, we are learning and will improve not just that little bit...! Edited March 16, 2014 by blue eyed sailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drplim Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Hello! This is my first post on concertina.net. I have a very easy time finding the ABC notation for irish tunes but have had no luck in finding it for these french waltzes and mazurkas. Does anybody know of a website with such a resource or can anyone let me "stand" on their shoulders by sharing their tunes with me? I loved all the contributions for the month of February! Thank you Bruno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Scannell Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 You can find this one: L'inconnu de Limoise Here: http://diato.org/tablat.htm#tab4-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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