Alan Day Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 I would be grateful for an MP3 recording of "Before the night was out" Walter Bulwers No 5 I have the music but I am not too good at reading. Many thanks Al
Pete Dunk Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 I could probably organise a midi file if that would do Al?
Pete Dunk Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 (edited) Here you go . . . (and the best of British luck with it mate!) Walter Bulwer's Polka No. 5 For those wondering why it sounds quite odd, the A music has one sharp but is in the Lydian mode of C, the time signature is 2/2. The B music changes key to C major but the second bar is in 5/4 which along with the dotted quaves in the third bar tends to make it all quite lumpy. If I were to play this I would probably be seasick! Edited to add info! Edited July 8, 2013 by tallship
voyager Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Hi Al Please find attached what I think you are looking for MP3 Walter Bulwers No5 PDF Easy Notes Walter Buwmers No 5 I convert a lot of stuff to easy notes because I my age I need all the help I can get. If you want anything doing just email me the ABC version and I'll convert it for you. Regards Voyager Walter Bulwer's Polka No.pdf Walter Bulwer's Polka No. 5 - Copy.mp3
Alan Day Posted July 8, 2013 Author Posted July 8, 2013 I have heard this a lot in Suffolk ,not on a concertina though.The tune is a masterpiece. I shall start work on it tomorrow. Many thanks Al
Pete Dunk Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Hi Al Please find attached what I think you are looking for MP3 Walter Bulwers No5 PDF Easy Notes Walter Buwmers No 5 I convert a lot of stuff to easy notes because I my age I need all the help I can get. If you want anything doing just email me the ABC version and I'll convert it for you. Regards Voyager Triplets in the music and a lack of repeats? Sorry but that's just wrong even if the midi playback is half right but stops oddly!
cboody Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 My take says the "triplet rhythms" are indications of spots where the two notes are to be swung and the other eighth notes are to be played straight. Just a guess, but it seems sensible. That said, it also seems to me that the MIDI (Mp3) is slow enough so those differences are exaggerated in unfortunate ways. Still I appreciate the effort to put that out here. How about an abc file to save me making the effort? I know some folks who would really like it.
voyager Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 Hi Attached the only Bulwers No 5 I can find in ABC I cannot vouch for the correctness as I do not know the tune. Hope this is of use . X:1 T:Walter bulwer's polka no. 5 M:3/4 L:1/8 K:C d>e dB GB | dg eg eg | d2 B2 c>B | ce dB G>B | A>B A>B AB | c^c d>e dB | GB dg eg | eg d2 B2 | c>B ce dB | GB AD E^F | G2 G2 d>e | dB GB dg | eg eg d2 | B2 c>B ce | dB G>B A>B | A>B AB c^c | d>e dB GB | dg eg eg | d2 B2 c>B | ce dB GB | AD E^F G2 | g2 e2 e2 | e2 e2 eg | ag ec Gc | Bc f>g f>g | f>g f>g ba | gf d2 ^d2 | e2 e2 e2 | eg ag ec | Gc Bc f>g | f>g f>g fA | G^G AB c2 | c2 e2 e2 | e2 e2 eg | ag ec Gc | Bc f>g f>g | f>g f>g ba | gf d2 ^d2 | e2 e2 e2 | eg ag ec | Gc Bc f>g | f>g f>g fA | G^G AB c2 | c2 | Regards voyager
Alan Day Posted July 9, 2013 Author Posted July 9, 2013 My take says the "triplet rhythms" are indications of spots where the two notes are to be swung and the other eighth notes are to be played straight. Just a guess, but it seems sensible. That said, it also seems to me that the MIDI (Mp3) is slow enough so those differences are exaggerated in unfortunate ways. Still I appreciate the effort to put that out here. How about an abc file to save me making the effort? I know some folks who would really like it. I have heard this tune played a number of times and it is the B part that is the difficult bit.The MP3 version is very useful and a great help ,but the timing of the B part is wrong and is just at the point that when I hear it played I have difficult in deciphering what is going on.I have another recording hopefully being sent to me which should sort it out and I will post the tune when my brain has got it sorted. Al
Pete Dunk Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 I have heard this tune played a number of times and it is the B part that is the difficult bit.The MP3 version is very useful and a great help ,but the timing of the B part is wrong and is just at the point that when I hear it played I have difficult in deciphering what is going on. Yep, the B part of the MP3 is completely wrong, didn't you listen to my midi file which was transcribed straight from the book?
Pete Dunk Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 How about an abc file to save me making the effort? I know some folks who would really like it. Nope, not from here. I have the book and I transcribed this tune to create a midi file for Al but as it's a recently published book and the tunes were painstaking transcribed from old field recordings by our very own steve_freereeder I won't be making the abc file publically available now or ever. Steve has a massive ability for transcribing music accurately by ear and gives generously of his time and patience whenever I ask, He's also an incredibly enthusiastic musician with bags of talent, well worth getting to know! Pete
Alan Day Posted July 9, 2013 Author Posted July 9, 2013 Hallo Pete Sorry I missed your midi file of the tune. That sorts it and many thanks.A slap on the wrist for missing it. Another pint I owe you. Al
Steve_freereeder Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 How about an abc file to save me making the effort? I know some folks who would really like it. Nope, not from here. I have the book and I transcribed this tune to create a midi file for Al but as it's a recently published book and the tunes were painstaking transcribed from old field recordings by our very own steve_freereeder I won't be making the abc file publically available now or ever. Steve has a massive ability for transcribing music accurately by ear and gives generously of his time and patience whenever I ask, He's also an incredibly enthusiastic musician with bags of talent, well worth getting to know! Pete Here is a recording of Walter Bulwer's No.5 polka which I made for a Melodeons at Witney workshop in 2011. https://soundcloud.com/steve_freereeder/walter-bulwers-no-5-polka Here's the ABC transcription which goes with the recording. Hope this is enough to keep you all happy. Steve X:1 T: Walter Bulwer's No.5 Polka T:Based on the fiddle playing of Walter Bulwer N:Source: compilation tape provided by Katie Howson during the preparation of 'Before The Night Was Out'. Also on CD "Heel and Toe', Veteran music, VT150CD. Bar lengths rationalised by Steve Freereeder to regularise Walter Bulwer's idiosyncratic playing (see BTNWO for original). Q:1/4=116 M:2/2 L:1/8 K:G P:A |: "_G"d>e dB GBdg | "_C"egeg "_G"d2 B2 | "_C"c>B ce "_G"dB G>B | "_D"A>BA>B ABc^c | "_G"d>e dB GBdg | "_C"egeg "_G" d2 B2 | "_C"c>B ce "_G"dBGB |1 "_D"ADEF "_G"G2 G2 :|2 "_D"ADEF "FINE" "_G"G2 g2 ||[K:C] P:B |: "_C"e2 e2 e2 eg | agec GcBc | "_F(Dm)"=f>gf>g f>g fg | "_G"bag=f d2 "_(B)"^d2 | "_C"e2 e2 e2 eg | agec GcBc | "_F(Dm)"=f>gf>g f>g fA | "_G"G^G"_D"A"_G"B "D.C. al Fine" "_C"c2 c2 :| W: W:Playing order: AA BB AA
Alan Day Posted July 10, 2013 Author Posted July 10, 2013 Thanks Steve. I have heard this tune played a number of times and always in GC but never in DG .Is it to keep the Walter Bulwer's tradition ,or for some other reason? Al
Lester Bailey Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Thanks Steve. I have heard this tune played a number of times and always in GC but never in DG .Is it to keep the Walter Bulwer's tradition ,or for some other reason? Al As Steve was producing it for Melodeons at Witney D/G would be the keys of the day.
Wolf Molkentin Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Thank you Steve for making this fine tune available (of which I'm sure it will be fun with the concertina as well)! And very nice playing in fact; albeit prefering the EC meanwhile myself it reminds me as to why I once chose the melodeon...
Pete Dunk Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 That's very different to the dots in the book Steve!!
Wolf Molkentin Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 That's very different to the dots in the book Steve!! Thus I should listen to the MIDI file again - but not right now, in the office...
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