judyhawkins Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 (edited) Elsewhere someone asked if the Button Box has plans for a Haydentutorial; no; but I'm going to dive off the edge (wheeee!!!) and trymy hand at it. Can't foist a new version of the Hayden system on anunsuspecting world and not at least offer *some* kind of usermanual...So, here's a first lesson based on what I've been doing to teachmyself the Hayden system.There are two sections: first one, for folks with no musicalbackground at all; then in the second section I'll present some ideasfor folks with more musical background.------------------------ Section One ---------------------------Ok: so: you've got a Hayden system concertina (any type -- Stagi,Elise, Beaumont, Peacock, Wheatstone, Tedrow....), you've probablyfigured out some way of holding it so you can get sound out of it:basically, sticking your hands through the hand straps, leaving yourthumbs outside (so you can hold onto the thing and work the bellows.)Put the instrument on your knee, whichever one is comfortable; or bothknees, or in your lap: try different places, and find what is mostcomfortable. If you need more ideas, or visuals, google "angloconcertina hold" for ideas -- you hold Haydens the same as Anglos.Now: you probably have a button chart telling you what buttons playwhich notes on your particular instrument. If you don't, there's onesomewhere on the internet (or if you can't find one there, try theButton Box),Find a C note on the right hand side. (or, really, any note with twobuttons to the right of it, and call it "C" for now.)Put your index finger on the C. Let's call that finger "1".Put the next finger, number "2", on the next button, a D;And the third finger, number "3", on the next button, which is an E.Pull on the thing to start air flowing, and type 1, 2, 3, or:C D Ejust like on a computer keyboard.So: that was the first three notes of a tune called "The First Leavesof Spring." Now here's the first half of the tune, spelled out in letters:C D E E D CD C D E D CPlay that slowly, several times. If it's hard to get your fingers tobehave --- coordination happens if you just keep at it slowly. You'rejust using fingers number 1, 2, 3, going back and forth.(If you're feeling like this is hard and weird, you're right; just keepat it slowly and it will get easier and more familiar. Learning toplay music is all about taking on hard things, doing them many timesslowly until they stop being hard things, with various strategiesalong the way for making it easier for hard things to get easier.I've got a lot of little things that have worked for me, and I'mhoping you will find them useful.)Here's the second half of the tune. It starts off exactly like thefirst half of the tune, but then it changes:C D E E D CD E D C - -I put dashes to show that you hold the C note longer, since it's thefinal note.Ok. Play that many times, until you are comfortable with it; nextpost I'll show you how to put a left hand part to it and make it sounda lot more like something real.--------------------- Section Two --------------------------For people who are more advanced:One of my first questions on the Hayden was what fingers should I beusing?At the session the evening before the concertina workshop, I wassitting between two very experienced Hayden players, and I askedthem. They both said they mostly use the first three fingers,reserving the pinky of the right hand for the occasional note way outin the upper right. They use their left pinky hardly ever, if at all.An exercise for you: Here's the abc for the whole tune, right andleft. It's written in G, but my suggestion is to play it on everybutton on the instrument, looking at the written music and gettingyour head around two things:1) be thinking about what ACTUAL key you are playing in (yourbutton/note chart will come in handy here!)2) meanwhile using the written notes to tell you when to go up andwhen to go down. Use the written notes as a kind of graphicalrepresentation. It's an exercise in transposition, in ignoring theabsolute pitch information that's written on the page. You'relearning a new instrument, it'll be easier now than any other time.[if you aren't familiar with abc, there's an abc converter onconcertina.net]X:1T:The First Leaves of SpringM:3/4L:1/4K:GV:1 clef=trebleV:2 clef=bass[V:1] |: GAB | BAG | AGA | BAG | GAB | BAG | ABA | (G3 | G3) :|[V:2] |: G3 | B3 | c3 | d3 | G3 | B3 | c3 | (B3 | B3) :|Try this starting on every button on your instrument. You'll getREALLY familiar with the beginning of the major scale, and you willhave to work very hard around the split between the left hand and theright hand to piece the scales together. If you do this, you will bemoving very fast towards becoming an expert Hayden player.You'll also get to know how the outer reaches of the instrument feelto you: all the notes will become comfortable and familiar.Here's the same tune in its minor version:X:1T:The Last Snows of WinterM:3/4L:1/4K:G minorV:1 clef=trebleV:2 clef=bass[V:1] |: GAB | BAG | AGA | BAG | GAB | BAG | ABA | (G3 | G3) :|[V:2] |: G3 | B3 | c3 | d3 | G3 | d3 | c3 | (B3 | B3) :|This will keep you busy until I can get together some more stuff foryou to work on.A brief road map of my self-teaching approach: find simple tunes youlike a lot; learn them at the written pitch with a simple left handaccompaniment and then transpose them all over the instrument. You'vegot about the most tranposable musical object ever made, right therebetween your hands; this is great for when you want to transpose, andHORRIBLE when you get lost and you're playing a half step off fromeveryone else.Next post I'll talk about not getting lost in the wasteland of nosignposts that is perhaps the most annoying characteristic of theHayden system.Judy Hawkins Edited April 20, 2013 by judyhawkins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Congratulations Judy, for starting a really usefull thread. This looks as if it will show clearly all the advantages and pitfalls of the Hayden from the beginers viewpoint and ,perhaps persuade more people to give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hi, Judy. Two points. First, a typo in the above: The link to the abc converter works, but the displayed text says concertina.com instead of concertina.net. Also, while Aaron and I tend to avoid using our little fingers, both Rich Morse (who got me started) and Brian Hayden have advocated using them liberally, and playing a tune like the one you provide with the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th fingers rather than 1, 2, and 3. It's probably true that the way I play is a bad habit. It works for me and I'm not likely to change. But I would probably teach a beginner to do it "right." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inventor Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) Regards tutors for the Hayden Duet, I would like to point players in 3 directions: 1) The "Elise" comes with a very usefull 50 page Tutor, with lots of diagrams, and a little bit on reading music. It takes you through the early stages of with lots of usefull diagrams of the keyboard. Perhaps Wim Wakker might make this book available as a stand alone item ? 2) When Hayden Duets first became available I started doing a series of tutorials for several people (up to about 9) who had taken up the system; we used to meet on several occasions a year. Most of them asked specifically about how to use the Left Hand. So over a period I produced a series of sheets of music. One of the problems that beginners encountered was reading the Bass Staff, so I simply wrote the left hand an octave down in what English Concertina players know as the "Baritone" staff. These sheets were combined together to form a little book which is available from the "West Country Concertina Players", and you will also find it on the web on the "Maccann Duet" site. As the sheets always came with me as well I simply showed pupils where to put their fingers on the instruments. I will come back to this later, to expand it further. 3) I had noticed over the years on my duet that a very large number of Traditional tunes used what I called the "Golden Hexagon" of buttons. 3, 4, 4, 3. (I will write this out later as I am not sure if it will print out well). And selected a good number of tunes which used only these 14 buttons. Then at Sidmouth I picked a book and to my surprise found that another person had discovered the same set of 14 notes. This is "Easy Peasy Tunes" by Dave Mallinson; I cannot more highly reccomend this book for beginners and improvers. Inventor. Edited April 18, 2013 by inventor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inventor Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) The Golden Hexagon ---(g") (a") (b") (c") (d") (e") (f#") ---(g') (a') (b') (c#") -----(d') (e') (f#') Inventor. Edited April 18, 2013 by inventor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Mills Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) Ah, but how to finger the golden hexagon? I followed the advice of Inventor, Rich Morse and more recently Wim Wakker, if I remember their advice correctly. While I still respect that advice, my opinion has changed. The following discussion applies only to right hand fingering. The choice of fingering style is IMO the most important step in learning the Hayden. This topic has been debated about 3 times before on this forum with active participation from Rich Morse. While I am an avid fan of the Hayden system, it is still my contention that its fingering patterns shift usage from stronger fingers to weaker fingers more than most other systems, certainly anglo and English. The advocated fingerings are: 234 1234 2 or 123 1234 1 as you play a major scale up the rows, e.g., CDE FGAB C and 1=index, 2=middle, 3=ring and 4=little finger. I practiced a number of scalar patterns when I was first learning and found the 234 system less awkward. I will now illustrate why I have since changed my mind. Even in major tunes, the 234 fingering uses the index and middle fingers less than the 123 system. It is in minor keys, however, that the shift becomes more obvious. Often the index finger is hardly used at all. I offer finger usage patterns of 2 tunes as evidence. The attached graphs below demonstrate typical finger usages in a major and minor key for both patterns. I believe these tunes to be typical of finger usage in most western tunes. (The natural C in Fiery Clockface shifts 1 occurence from little to index finger). I have been retraining myself to use the 123 system for all minor tunes and I hope that I eventually transition to that consistent fingering for all tunes. I play a Tedrow Hayden, by the way. Edited April 18, 2013 by Stephen Mills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inventor Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 (edited) I do not give a specific fingering for the "Golden Hexagon", because I am a great believer in flexability. I recomend starting with the 234 because it strenthens up the little finger, and gives another less obvious option. In my youth when I took up the melodeon, hardly anyone played them, so nobody told me that you were only supposed to use just the middle and fore fingers to play the Bass. There were two rows of 4 buttons one above the other, I had four fingers so I played the "G four" with my little finger and ring finger and the "D four" with my middle and index finger. As most of the tunes that I played were in G this strengthened my little finger quite considerably. It reminds me of Lewis Carols poem "You are old father William" - the muscular strength it gave to my little finger has lasted the rest of my life! Inventor. Edited April 19, 2013 by inventor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwhlevy Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Judy, you are to be commended!! I've been trying to find a tutor for my 64 button Bastari for years. Brian Hayden made short attempt but it really isn't enough information. I hope you are able to go further with your efforts. Applause!! Grant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogheathen Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Judy, this is great, thanks so much. Will be following. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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