JimLucas Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 This one. Comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Braun Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 That IS odd. She looks like she was well made and well played. Some one knew her well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirge Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I think it will be a Wheatstone duet and what they've done is pull the Eb buttons across out of the main column so they are easily identifiable, or perhaps avoidable is a better word. The accidentals on one of these are laid out next to one of their natural notes and usually the most likely one; so the F sharps are next to Fs and not G's for instance. Most of them end up in the 2 outside columns except for the Dsharp/Eb. These are beside the D but along way from their coresponding E; it's a pig because you want Eb much more than D sharp, and they float in the middle of nowhere on the keyboard and are several tones adrift from the notes around them; hit one by mistake and it's not only wrong, it's excruciatingly wrong; it's an easy thing to do and really causes pain. It's a little pitfall trap for the aspiring player. (And the cure, I believe, if anyone is curious, is to take the bull by the horns and learn a few flat key pieces early on and get used to them.) Perhaps someone played his duet for long enough to know it was worth commissioning a pukka one from Wheatstones, but not for long enough to have got over the Eb terrors and this is what Wheatstone did when asked. There was another one like this discussed a couple of years ago but I can't remember where, so it's not unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Wheatstones ledgers show that this was one of a batch of two .... which might suggest it is not a one off special... looks nice too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inventor Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I have come across this before, mostly in the Lancashire area, in connection with playing along with Brass Bands, who commonly played in flat keys especially Bb and Eb. The offsetting of the 4th collumn is to facilitate runs that include D & Eb consecutively, which is slightly awkward on a standard Maccan. Inventor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Viehoff Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 As well as the large offsettings in the 4th column, there is also some smaller offsettings in the 5th and 6th columns, though cols 1, 2, 3 look pretty straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirge Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 As well as the large offsettings in the 4th column, there is also some smaller offsettings in the 5th and 6th columns, though cols 1, 2, 3 look pretty straight. I decided they were just 'knock on effects' of the main shuffling. I like Brian's explanation for why, although you have to wonder why they didn't just order a transposing instrument in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Braun Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I decided they were just 'knock on effects' of the main shuffling. I like Brian's explanation for why, although you have to wonder why they didn't just order a transposing instrument in the first place. Or just practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirge Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Or just practice? It works for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Or just practice? It works for me... Reminds me of the old Peanuts comic: Lucy tells Schroeder that she has just noticed that what looks like black keys on his (toy) piano are actually just painted on. So how does he play his beloved Beethoven and all the other complicated stuff he plays? Lots of practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Viehoff Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Reminds me of the old Peanuts comic: Lucy tells Schroeder that she has just noticed that what looks like black keys on his (toy) piano are actually just painted on. So how does he play his beloved Beethoven and all the other complicated stuff he plays? Lots of practice. The Fugue in C major by Shostakovich, from his 24 Preludes and Fugues, is written on just the white notes. I can't think of any other piece of "serious" piece of music written without an accidental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Drinkwater Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Reminds me of the old Peanuts comic: Lucy tells Schroeder that she has just noticed that what looks like black keys on his (toy) piano are actually just painted on. So how does he play his beloved Beethoven and all the other complicated stuff he plays? Lots of practice. The Fugue in C major by Shostakovich, from his 24 Preludes and Fugues, is written on just the white notes. I can't think of any other piece of "serious" piece of music written without an accidental. So, it was written 'deliberately' and not 'accidentally'! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted October 9, 2012 Author Share Posted October 9, 2012 Reminds me of the old Peanuts comic: Lucy tells Schroeder that she has just noticed that what looks like black keys on his (toy) piano are actually just painted on. So how does he play his beloved Beethoven and all the other complicated stuff he plays? Lots of practice. The Fugue in C major by Shostakovich, from his 24 Preludes and Fugues, is written on just the white notes. I can't think of any other piece of "serious" piece of music written without an accidental. So, it was written 'deliberately' and not 'accidentally'! Naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marien Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 isn't that a quatre mains concertina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann-p Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Come on) Guys (?). Don't you know that Russian music is amongst the best?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 The Fugue in C major by Shostakovich, from his 24 Preludes and Fugues, is written on just the white notes. So does that make it "White Russian" music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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