Orm Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Here's a video from this year Willie Clancy Summer Festival, first ever Harmonica Recital. There was a two English concertina players - Mick Kinsella and Rick Epping, both are top harmonica players, but they use concertina sometimes for backup. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY1lY408tbw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Jowaisas Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) Nice! Oops momentary confusion... "Michael Coleman's" I believe. Greg Edited September 16, 2012 by Greg Jowaisas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orm Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) Nice! Oops momentary confusion... "Michael Coleman's" I believe. Greg The first one - Coleman's March - http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/3888 the second one - Joe's Bane - http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/1649 I'm rehearsing this set on Anglo concertina + Harmonica actually, it's not very hard. And Mick's playing is veery good, it's great that I have such a nice example of how real musicians play this set. Edited September 16, 2012 by Orm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Mansfield Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 I love the harmonica and EC sound, I really must get myself a harmonica holder and start working on that. Straight after I've played the Etude enough to get through it without falling off and / or swearing, and worked out the fingerings for the tunes I'm currently learning, and done all the stuff I need to do on the flute to keep *that* ticking over ... oh, and written all the software I need to get finished at work ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael sam wild Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Thanks, what kind of harmonica is being played? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kautilya Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) Here's a video from this year Willie Clancy Summer Festival, first ever Harmonica Recital. There was a two English concertina players - Mick Kinsella and Rick Epping, both are top harmonica players, but they use concertina sometimes for backup. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY1lY408tbw Great. Well found. Diff to tell what harmonicas. Sounds like tremolos (two rows of holes/reeds on one side as in pic http://www.amazon.co.uk/SWAN-SENIOR-HOLE-TREMOLO-HARMONICA/dp/B005EX9MKM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1347888754&sr=1-1) It is suggested here Kinsella and Epping play chromatic (but three kinds of mouth organ are shown!) http://homepages.iol.ie/~ronolan/harmonica.html(but in the youtube we have here I cannot see any pushing on a 'slide' button as you can here with Larry Adler who says the sound of harmonica [and we can add the tina] can bring you nearer to the human voice and is what may make the two so attractive together. ( comment at beginning and button slide at 3.32_ Pity youtube cuts off titling of the Irish performances as it is then v difficult to work your way through to find other gems like this Wonderful to see so many young people playing... whatever my many criticisms of fast and furious Irish, that big number of young recruits makes our English efforts here look pathetic. There is plan afoot to get a proper cash pot collected and plenty of advance notice, so that more young players can make it to ECMW 2013 - if you fancy taking an English punt on the future (excuse the pun t) from your occasional change and put it into a jam jar, you would easily collect at least a fiver by next June to donate..... http://ecmwbrightlingsea.com/index.html Edited September 17, 2012 by Kautilya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orm Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 Well, first of all, I must say, that my main instrument is harmonica, and my main music is Irish music, so I know a bit about harmonicas and players. I've also attended harmonica class at Willie's Week last year, Rick Epping and Mick Kinsella was techers there, great guys and players. There's not much harmonica players in Irish music, but these two and John and Pip Murphy are top of the tops Great. Well found. Diff to tell what harmonicas. Sounds like tremolos ... It's definitely not tremolo, it's either regular 10 hole blues diatonic (Marine Band type) or XB-40 diatonic. It is suggested here Kinsella and Epping play chromatic (but three kinds of mouth organ are shown!) Mick Kinsella do play chromatic harmonica in irish tuning (slider gives you semitone down instead of semitone up note), but as far as I know, Rick Epping usually doesn't play chromatic. John Murphy plays tremolo, octave and diatonic harmonica and Pip Murphy plays tremolo (don't know about other types). I have another videos from recital at my channel, here's Rick Epping performance with EC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pblihf1hW0g&feature=channel&list=UL Keep playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Laban Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I don't think either of them (Mick & Rick) play one type of harmonica exclusively. Mick plays the chromatic in the style of Eddie Clarke but I remember going on stage with him at a few festival gigs where he took two large hands full of harmonicas on stage. There was a bit of switching between different types as far as I could see. On one occasion we got him to play this one on his own, because it's a gorgeous tune and he made such a lovely job of it : Leipzig Waltz Obviously he was on the chromatic for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orm Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 On one occasion we got him to play this one on his own, because it's a gorgeous tune and he made such a lovely job of it : Leipzig Waltz Obviously he was on the chromatic for that one. Peter, thank you for that audio, great job by Mick! but if you ask me, it souns like a diatonic, there's some octave playing and nice bends which does not sounds like single reed bend (only possible bends on chromatic). For me, it sounds like XB40 diatonic harmonica. Anyway, Mick is awesome player and great musical thinker too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Laban Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Well, I only guessed as the tune didn't quite move around a diatonic scale. I'll freely admit to my (obviously) almost complete lack of knowledge where it comes to harmonicas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kautilya Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) It's definitely not tremolo, it's either regular 10 hole blues diatonic (Marine Band type) or XB-40 diatonic. I thought XB-40 was a modern coalition unemployment form .....u get nowt.! Sounds interesting as it says Rick Epping designed for Hohner and is for extreme bending (tho he did not seem to be much bending in that rather nice tune video). Anybody know name of the tune in that video? http://www.eaglemusicshop.com/details1.asp/ProductID/1265/sid/142/hohner-xb-40-new-for-2003-harmonica.htm Reminds me that the Dutch lads have failed to send us some examples of the concertina bending they did at Swaledale back in May. On the handfuils of harmonicas I would think that is more about changing the key than the type of harmonica. My compromise is a four-harmonica Hohner Kreuzwender which gives me D G and little used C and E (or is it F?!) Swan China (my favourite)have just brought out a five-part Kreuzwender which is selling for 100 quid (compared with 350quid for a Hohner six-parter) but I cannot find, see the keys on the five-parter. Of course if you are in Moscow I hear playing the local g..armoni..cas can be quite a mouthful! Where do you play so we can drop in virtually.........? Is there an active session scene for free reeders? Edited September 19, 2012 by Kautilya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael sam wild Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Thanks for all the useful information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orm Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 Where do you play so we can drop in virtually.........? Is there an active session scene for free reeders? We do have a regular session in Moscow, so if you will be there - you welcome to visit Actually I'm just a beginner in Irish music, but we have some great players. Here some tunes we played at the end of the session https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8132911/Music%20In%20The%20Glen%20%28with%20a%20Big%20Help%20from%20Moscow%20Sessioneers%29.mp3 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8132911/Slow%20Reels%20Congress%2C%20Trip%20To%20Cullenstown.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orm Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 And about great players - here's a great Moscow-based band "Blind Harper" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZrUvsjK_P8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kautilya Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Where do you play so we can drop in virtually.........? Is there an active session scene for free reeders? We do have a regular session in Moscow, so if you will be there - you welcome to visit Actually I'm just a beginner in Irish music, but we have some great players. Here some tunes we played at the end of the session https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8132911/Music%20In%20The%20Glen%20%28with%20a%20Big%20Help%20from%20Moscow%20Sessioneers%29.mp3 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8132911/Slow%20Reels%20Congress%2C%20Trip%20To%20Cullenstown.mp3 very nice too. maybe we should swap session recordings so folk can hear different tunes and different approaches? So where do you meet - is it in the Kremlin Bar for pu-tinaplayers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceemonster Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 never been drawn to the concertina/harmonica thing for irish, but am currently contemplating acquisition of an accordion-reeded EC for french musette/swing....perhaps there'd be an empty place in Toots Thielemans' lineup.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kautilya Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) never been drawn to the concertina/harmonica thing for irish, but am currently contemplating acquisition of an accordion-reeded EC for french musette/swing....perhaps there'd be an empty place in Toots Thielemans' lineup.... With reference to Geoff's post with some fine SallyArmy playing:Few Mor http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=14692&pid=139919&st=0entry139919 Another excuse to ask why you or Dirge don't give us some phrasing/extracts from: that is e-code for Mozart's Horn Concerto No. 4 in Eb Major,rondo (which is one of the key's on the Hohner Liliputs...) Here is some instruction (part of playing it on Harp - harmonica)and thank your Hubble stars that you are squeezing with your hands not your embouchure (i.e. the tina player....) http://www.harpsurgery.com/horn-concerto-no-4-in-eb-major-rondo-allegro-vivace-w-a-mozart-with-tab/ There are full instructions for the rondo on harmonica there: Edited September 26, 2012 by Kautilya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kautilya Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 It would be interesting to add more tinas to a peformance involving these instruments. From this very own parish of ours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px6i3OL7o-4&feature=related and as a bit of backing and bringing in the flute, drums, horns/trombone(??)/pipes: I must say the commentary under the one-row melodeon suggests he gains solace from playing; just as with "If thou art troubled, music will calm thee", sung by Ferrier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXdv_PcqBBI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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