16 Sept 11

[Leo]

UK

TETHERA LIVE AT THE PRINCE ALBERT

 

 

Swanage Folk Festival 2011 Part 1

 

Swanage Folk Festival 2011 Part 11

 

Manie plays the concertina

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France

2011-09-08-Corrigans-Finnish Polka

 

2011-09-08-Corrigans- The Lilting Banshee & the Blarney Pilgrim

 

2011-09-08-Corrigans-Over the Waterfall

 

The Pirates's Waltz ou la Valse des pirates

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Japan

(Set dance) Planxty Davis - Concertina Solo.wmv

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US

Parting Glass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o2jbX3-DEI&fmt=18

 

SnickerSnack Rapper at NEFFA 2011 - Spronsters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGiTLrMmMyc&fmt=18

 

SnickerSnack Rapper: The Blooper Reel (NEFFA 2011)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21Nsv3ZgRFU&fmt=18

 

Sand Witches

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8KZu_a5FGc&fmt=18

 

The Dumbled Hors d' oeuvres LIVE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hUz6Y39nC8&fmt=18

 

concertina.m4v

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkJvleC3dJY&fmt=18

 

Concertina

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsYEEaX5NhI&fmt=18

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Spain

The Basque Irish Connection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQWmupwjO6M&fmt=18

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Germany

Concertina

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uBsVw7ywkk&fmt=18

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Ireland

 

Miriam Collins 1982 Bunratty Folk Park

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUDH5n-SQWA&fmt=18

 

Drowsy Maggie Bellows Tutorial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_aeJCmE6Bw&fmt=18

 

Karma Police - Radiohead (Cover) - Claire Prendergast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7uEewKnVz4&fmt=18

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Australia

Bride to the Blacksmith

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RkwGOtC16o&fmt=18

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New Zealand

Concertina report mid Sept 2011 Centenary March

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2uIxYUK2kE&fmt=18

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Thanks

Leo

[LDT]

Just missed uploading in time to get in your list. lol!

 

Bodmin Riding

Billy Boy

[Randall Cayford]

SnickerSnack Rapper at NEFFA 2011 - Spronsters

http://www.youtube.c...TLrMmMyc&fmt=18

 

SnickerSnack Rapper: The Blooper Reel (NEFFA 2011)

http://www.youtube.c...sv3ZgRFU&fmt=18

 

 

I notice the tempos for these clips are quite slow. I noticed at NEFFA last year that all the East coast rapper sides seem to be dancing much slower than I'm used to. I'm wondering if this is related to a change in instrumentation as a lot of these sides seem to be dancing to concertinas or accordions which is something I hadn't seen before. We've never had any luck finding a free-reed player who could play at rapper speeds so we've always used fiddles. Perhaps this is simply that I know a lot of really, really good fiddle players and far fewer good free reed players. But I'm also wondering if it's just much harder to play really fast on a concertina than it is on a fiddle.

[Pete Dunk]

I notice the tempos for these clips are quite slow.

 

Really? There comes a point when music becomes nonsense because the playing tempo overtakes it and removes all expression. Time for the musician to halve the tempo and the dancers to double theirs. Fiddlers can play at a hell of a lick but it still sounds silly and unmusical if it's too fast. This is folk music and folk dancing, neither should require consummate performance skills to achieve, it's not classical music and it's not ballet, do it well by all means but don't expect professional skills from part timers!

 

Come to think of it I don't recall any rapper sides in the UK being particularly up tempo. Brisk at times perhaps, sharp and energetic even, but always leaving enough room in the dance (and the music) to let it breathe and flow.

[AnnC]

 

Come to think of it I don't recall any rapper sides in the UK being particularly up tempo. Brisk at times perhaps, sharp and energetic even, but always leaving enough room in the dance (and the music) to let it breathe and flow.

 

Here's a link to Sallyport Sword at Whitby Folk Week A 1st class side and a brilliant musician on the melodeon, fast without losing the lift and life of the tunes, playing non-stop for over 12 minutes, most of it solo

[Randall Cayford]

I notice the tempos for these clips are quite slow.

Really? There comes a point when music becomes nonsense because the playing tempo overtakes it and removes all expression. Time for the musician to halve the tempo and the dancers to double theirs. Fiddlers can play at a hell of a lick but it still sounds silly and unmusical if it's too fast. This is folk music and folk dancing, neither should require consummate performance skills to achieve, it's not classical music and it's not ballet, do it well by all means but don't expect professional skills from part timers!

Really. There's a lot of headroom until you reach nonsense. Dancing double time to half time music makes one frantic and the other slow so it's odd. I wouldn't class fast rapper as requiring professional skills, just a different emphasis and goal.

 

Come to think of it I don't recall any rapper sides in the UK being particularly up tempo. Brisk at times perhaps, sharp and energetic even, but always leaving enough room in the dance (and the music) to let it breathe and flow.

From clips I've seen most of them are more up tempo than the example above though it's true they don't generally seem particularly fast either. I did find a clip of Stevenage at what I consider a reasonable tempo with (I think) a melodeon but he was dropping a lot of notes. Another clip of High Spen was a bit slower but had an accordion of some sort who was cleaner. So it seems possible to do. However, except for Stevenage, every team I found who danced at the tempos I prefer was using a fiddle (cutting edge, fiddle puppets, iron mountain, berea, gridlock). Of course none of those are UK teams.

 

Which still leaves me thinking concertina/accordion may be too slow for fast rapper.