Seán Ó Fearghail Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I've never seen one of these before ... http://cgi.ebay.ie/concertina-D-G-/130550172637?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e65658bdd#ht_500wt_1156 are they good, bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I've never seen one of these before ... http://cgi.ebay.ie/concertina-D-G-/130550172637?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e65658bdd#ht_500wt_1156 are they good, bad? I purchased my Shire 36 button C/G Anglo in 1979, brand new to order from its maker John Timpany, and I have been playing it ever since. I recorded my opinions of the instrument on this website on February 15 2008 in relation to some discussion on the subject which had started on December 22 2007 and which had then run on until about May 6 2008 when John posted an interesting but very sad explanation for the subsequent demise of his business. I stand by everything I posted on Feb 15 2008. Let me know if you are unable to access this old discussion. As far as I am concerned mine is a splendid little instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Hersh Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I've never seen one of these before ... http://cgi.ebay.ie/c...d#ht_500wt_1156 are they good, bad? I purchased my Shire 36 button C/G Anglo in 1979, brand new to order from its maker John Timpany, and I have been playing it ever since. I recorded my opinions of the instrument on this website on February 15 2008 in relation to some discussion on the subject which had started on December 22 2007 and which had then run on until about May 6 2008 when John posted an interesting but very sad explanation for the subsequent demise of his business. I stand by everything I posted on Feb 15 2008. Let me know if you are unable to access this old discussion. As far as I am concerned mine is a splendid little instrument. Here is a link to that discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Thanks for the link Daniel, John Timpany's story makes for sobering reading. As another person who started his instrument making carear during the same period I can sympathize well with John's problems. By the skin of my teeth I survived the initial traumas but there were many lean years and thousands of 14 hour days. It was my wife and children who suffered the most. I recall selling my beloved Tennor Treble Aeola at one stage so that we could eat ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Thanks for the link Daniel, John Timpany's story makes for sobering reading. As another person who started his instrument making carear during the same period I can sympathize well with John's problems. By the skin of my teeth I survived the initial traumas but there were many lean years and thousands of 14 hour days. It was my wife and children who suffered the most. I recall selling my beloved Tennor Treble Aeola at one stage so that we could eat ! I could have mentioned in my previous posting that if the 'Shire' offered on Ebay is comparable to mine it is certainly worth very considerably more than the asking price. I am surprised that someone has apparently seen fit, and considered it necessary to replace all the pads at some stage in its life. I wonder why. I also wonder why it is customary to dismantle instruments for photography. No-one has ever dismantled a motor car in order to persuade me to buy it! Are there people out there who spend more time dismantling their instruments than playing them ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I also wonder why it is customary to dismantle instruments for photography. No-one has ever dismantled a motor car in order to persuade me to buy it! Are there people out there who spend more time dismantling their instruments than playing them ?! Concertinas are much easier to dismantle (and reassemble!!) and their working parts much easier to expose than cars. Thus it makes sense to give prospective buyers the opportunity to do more than just "kick the tires". And I dare say that most persons considering buying a car (especially a "vintage" car) would also want to know more about its internal condition than what could be provided by a couple of external photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglo-Irishman Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I also wonder why it is customary to dismantle instruments for photography. No-one has ever dismantled a motor car in order to persuade me to buy it! Are there people out there who spend more time dismantling their instruments than playing them ?! And I dare say that most persons considering buying a car (especially a "vintage" car) would also want to know more about its internal condition than what could be provided by a couple of external photos. True, but I'd like to listen to a vintage car before I bought it. That would tell me more about the condition of the big-end bearings than even a photo of the dismantled engine! Same by analogy for concertinas, I suppose! Cheers, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 ...I'd like to listen to a vintage car before I bought it. That would tell me more about the condition of the big-end bearings than even a photo of the dismantled engine! Hmm. What's the audio equivalent of Photoshop, I wonder? And (not?) surprisingly, there seem to be more sellers of concertinas who are capable of dismantling and photographing their instrument than are capable of demonstrating what it sounds like when played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saguaro_squeezer Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 ...I'd like to listen to a vintage car before I bought it. That would tell me more about the condition of the big-end bearings than even a photo of the dismantled engine! Hmm. What's the audio equivalent of Photoshop, I wonder? And (not?) surprisingly, there seem to be more sellers of concertinas who are capable of dismantling and photographing their instrument than are capable of demonstrating what it sounds like when played. I would think YouTube or a QuickTime video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 ....... Hmm. What's the audio equivalent of Photoshop, I wonder? ....... Auto-Tune? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 ...I'd like to listen to a vintage car before I bought it. That would tell me more about the condition of the big-end bearings than even a photo of the dismantled engine! Hmm. What's the audio equivalent of Photoshop, I wonder? And (not?) surprisingly, there seem to be more sellers of concertinas who are capable of dismantling and photographing their instrument than are capable of demonstrating what it sounds like when played. I would think YouTube or a QuickTime video? Doesn't that assume that they are able to play the instrument? How do you assess an instrument's quality for playing chordal accompaniments or Irish reels from a sound file "played" by a seller who has said, "I don't know anything about concertinas, but all the buttons make a noise"? I personally feel that where personal inspection isn't possible, a broad selection of both photos and sound files is the best way to sell a concertina. And I do practice what I preach. But not everyone is able to do all that. Still, a lot of information can be gained from a good selection of good photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saguaro_squeezer Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Doesn't that assume that they are able to play the instrument? How do you assess an instrument's quality for playing chordal accompaniments or Irish reels from a sound file "played" by a seller who has said, "I don't know anything about concertinas, but all the buttons make a noise"? I personally feel that where personal inspection isn't possible, a broad selection of both photos and sound files is the best way to sell a concertina. And I do practice what I preach. But not everyone is able to do all that. Still, a lot of information can be gained from a good selection of good photos. True Jim, though an "I don't know anything about concertinas ..." seller may only be able to photograph the outside and tell you that it's in great condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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