nkgibbs Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 My gut says this is 'German'. What do you think? Cheers Neil
gcoover Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 My gut says this is 'German'. What do you think? Cheers Neil This is almost identical to an Anglo I bought many years ago, pretty on the outside but the insides looked they were made out of popsicle sticks, and the reeds were all riveted onto long lead plates - obvious old German, but unfortunately not really playable. Whoever bids on this one better look inside before paying anything over $100! Gary
malcolmbebb Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) Would be nice to have some internal photos - ends appear to be held on with wood screws. I suppose one could ask for some more photos The seller - who I'm sure has sold concertinas before - isn't claiming it's an Anglo. Edited March 22, 2011 by malcolmbebb
Stephen Chambers Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 It's not this one again is it? (I've noticed this seller seems to buy a lot of his stock from local auctions... )
Daniel Hersh Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 It's not this one again is it? (I've noticed this seller seems to buy a lot of his stock from local auctions... ) Stephen-- I don't remember what that one looked like, but you said that the spacing on the end screws of that one looked German and I don't see that problem on this one - or am I missing something? This one looks to my much less expert eye like it could be either a very good German imitation of an Anglo or a genuine low-end English-made one.
JimLucas Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 The seller - who I'm sure has sold concertinas before - isn't claiming it's an Anglo. No? This is at the top of the description, in very large letters: Antique C/G 28 BUTTON ANGLO CONCERTINA
malcolmbebb Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) So it does - missed that Edited March 23, 2011 by malcolmbebb
Daniel Hersh Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 So it does - missed that But most players would call this an Anglo even if it's German-made, especially since it's got an Anglo-style third row...
Stephen Chambers Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) It's not this one again is it? Stephen-- I don't remember what that one looked like, but you said that the spacing on the end screws of that one looked German and I don't see that problem on this one - or am I missing something? You are Daniel, in that four of the end screws are offset - they aren't in the centres of their sides. Some German concertinas were made with four end screws, in a rectangular layout, on the six sides of the instrument - whilst the (centred) top and bottom ones of this one look almost like an afterthought - to make it look more like an Anglo. This one looks to my much less expert eye like it could be either a very good German imitation of an Anglo or a genuine low-end English-made one. It's what the old catalogues described as an "Imitation Anglo." Edited for clarification Edited March 23, 2011 by Stephen Chambers
SteveS Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) My gut says this is 'German'. Sold for £675 Edited March 23, 2011 by SteveS
Stephen Chambers Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) My gut says this is 'German'. Sold for £675 Mein Gott! Oh dear, somebody is likely to be extremely disappointed... Edited for emphasis Edited March 23, 2011 by Stephen Chambers
Daniel Hersh Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 It's not this one again is it? I don't remember what that one looked like, but you said that the spacing on the end screws of that one looked German and I don't see that problem on this one - or am I missing something? You are Daniel, in that four of the end screws are offset - they aren't in the centres of their sides. Some German concertinas were made with four end screws, in a rectangular layout, on the six sides of the instrument - whilst the (centred) top and bottom ones of this one look almost like an afterthought - to make it look more like an Anglo. It's what the old catalogues described as an "Imitation Anglo." Thanks very much! It didn't even occur to me to look at whether the screws were at the center of their sides. I saw that there were six screws rather than four and stopped there.
malcolmbebb Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 So it does - missed that But most players would call this an Anglo even if it's German-made, especially since it's got an Anglo-style third row... Well, that is clearly the intention and some of these boxes do look very appealing. Personally I would take more interest in the action, having had a couple of German boxes - albeit old and in need of mucho TLC - and to my mind it's an Anglo if it's got Anglo (English) style action, even if made in Germany, and German action if it has the parallel levers - even if made in China. If that makes sense...
Theo Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) It's back And the price has gone up! Edited March 24, 2011 by Theo
nkgibbs Posted March 24, 2011 Author Posted March 24, 2011 It's back And the price has gone up! Blimey
malcolmbebb Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 It is German, see new internal pics. I asked him for some internal pics. For what it is, it doesn't seem in too bad nick generally although I note that some of the button holes are out of round. The same seller has a one-row melodeon in D for £299. I'm not bidding on that, either.
SteveS Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 It is German, see new internal pics. I asked him for some internal pics. For what it is, it doesn't seem in too bad nick generally although I note that some of the button holes are out of round. The same seller has a one-row melodeon in D for £299. I'm not bidding on that, either. He really has an over-inflated idea of what these instruments are worth.
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