Alex West Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I just noticed this C Jeffries at Eastbourne Auction Rooms coming up on 24th March. Superficially, it looks OK, but I'm suspicious about the font of the makers stamp and there are also aspects of the fretwork and buttons which make me wonder if this is genuine. No idea about the key. The reeds and the sound are what matter but I'm too far away to be able to check Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDF Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I just noticed this C Jeffries at Eastbourne Auction Rooms coming up on 24th March. Superficially, it looks OK, but I'm suspicious about the font of the makers stamp and there are also aspects of the fretwork and buttons which make me wonder if this is genuine. No idea about the key. The reeds and the sound are what matter but I'm too far away to be able to check Alex Thats funny as there has just been a discussion about the look of ivory and metal buttons.Here you seem to have the best or worst of both on the same instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Day Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I may go to this auction for a view. I will report back Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex West Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 Hammer price was £3,200 so total cost including buyer's premium and VAT was £3,776. I hope the buyer had a good look at it and knew what it was he/she was buying - it looks awfully expensive if it wasn't the genuine article Did you go Alan? Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marien Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Like Alex - I doubted about the stamp, it looks like an bad imitation (tell me I am wrong Jim) and the same for the fretwork. The bellows / not genuine but one could expect that - may be replaced at some time. Somehow auction houses remind me of ebay sellers. I am hoping for the buyer that it was worth the gamble. The price is in line with the actual auction price for genuine Jeffries anglos in need of TLC. Just thinking / a stamp can be added to prove that it is really a jeffries (also when it does not need that because it already is a real jeffries). What could be the `fake` percentage of all jeffries concertina offered in auctions? Anybody ´round here has an idea about that? - - - edited to remove most typos - - - Edited March 24, 2011 by marien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_freereeder Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Has anyone else noticed that the two ends are mis-aligned. Someone has taken it apart and not reassembled it properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marien Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Has anyone else noticed that the two ends are mis-aligned. Someone has taken it apart and not reassembled it properly. I guess that has been done by the concertina expert of the auction house... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Day Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) Hammer price £3200 I could not get to view this concertina sadly. A few problems here prevented it. Oops just read fully your posting Alex just repeated the price. It does look as though they are holding their price at the moment. Al Edited March 25, 2011 by Alan Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marien Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 (edited) Hammer price £3200 ... It does look as though they are holding their price at the moment. Al That's right Alan - they are holding their price. At Bonhams(9 March) I heard 2 Jeffries anglos going for a hammer prices of 3300 and 3100 (lot 1 and 3). I was on the phone but I didn´t bid - there was too much doubt and tunings were unknown. To anyone thinking about bidding in auctions - check this to see what you must add to these hammer prices (lot 1 went for 3300 pounds, lot 3 went for 3100). Marien By the way, lot 2 - a Wheatstone MacCann - went for 900 pounds `only`. Edited March 26, 2011 by marien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Day Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Just to let you know I had a chat with the auctioneer this morning and enquired about the Jeffries. The bellows were in a very poor state and some buttons were missing. I would expect that owing to this condition the reeds were probably in old concert pitch ,so quite a high price. Jeffries are getting rarer every day so still worth the investment. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 It's good that these battered Jeffries are being restored, but the state of some of them does make me wonder how much remains Jeffries and how much is new concertina. If Chris/Wim builds a new concertina around Jeffries reeds, is it a Jeffries? or a Phoenix? A bit like Trigger's broom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP3 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Alan, when you spoke to the auction expert, did you by any chance broach the issue of the wrong font on the Jeffries stamping or the possibly of a forgery? Maybe I'm all wet, but the possibility that an instrument got sold as a Jeffries and brought a Jeffries price when it might not have been seems to me a real issue here and the fact that the auction gallery had photos taken of the instrument with it improperly put together doesn't exactly give me much confidence in their "expert"!! I'd be very interested to hear your views. Ross Schlabach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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