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Hello concertina players!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piUCWpnzIrI

 

 

There are a good few types of traditional music in Spain, in this video I try to play one tune from Castille. They usually play it with an instrument called dulzaina. I'm playing an english concertina, a cheap one, it is a Hohner.

 

I hope you like it!

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Hi, Fernando (my namesake)! Nice stuff. Where is your new fancy Wheatstone? Post pictures, you bugger!! :D

 

Michael, the dulzaina is a very ancient instrument related to the bombarde and ancestor of the oboe. It's double reeded, mouth blown and loud as hell. Nowadays is full keyed made - and quite expensive -.

 

It's played in Castilla accompanied by a snare drum for dances. This piece was a Jota, - nothing to do with the letter of the same name in spanish alphabet, 'J' - and it's in 3/4 time. It's danced in a very lively way. Castilla music is rich also in odd time signatures, as 7/8.

 

Cheers,

 

Fer

 

Edited for to add a beatiful link - only in spanish, I'm afraid -:

 

http://usuarios.multimania.es/yanguasde/JOTAS...P/jotas.htm

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Thanks Leonard! I don't have ABC scores, but give me some time! I'm going to try to write them. The tune is in B Major, if you play English System you will find it quite hard to play it in that key. But if you play the anglo I don't know at all. I will post the scores here when I have them ready, and I will tell you as well.

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Thank you Fernando! good link you posted! with many photos of dulzainas! thats nice! and I didn't know there were castilian tunes in 7/8! I know there are in 8/8 (entradillas) and 5/8 or 10/8 (bailes corridos and charradas). And someone told me that jotas are 3/4, but with the stress made in a certain way that makes them different from waltzes and other types of 3/4, but I don't know well the details of these.

 

One friend of mine recorded a short video of me just when I came from UK with Virginie (that's the name I put to my new concertina), this is the link:

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/chirritutiplen#p/f/3/usrX0vHtZhs

 

I love this concertina! it is so much fun to play it! I will record more videos, but I will wait some time until I find myself comfortable enough. But be ready for Basque Country music! I just love that music, it has been like a discovering for me.

 

It is nice to hear from you Fernando!

 

Take care!

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Thanks Leonard! I don't have ABC scores, but give me some time! I'm going to try to write them. The tune is in B Major, if you play English System you will find it quite hard to play it in that key. But if you play the anglo I don't know at all. I will post the scores here when I have them ready, and I will tell you as well.

I've done that this evening. but I transposed to Cmajor.:rolleyes:

Please check if it needs any corrections.

 

X:1
T:Jota Castellana
A: Castilla
S: Fernando on www.youtube.com/watch?v=piUCWpnzIrI
Z:Leonard 17/02/2010
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:C
ed|:c2 G2 fe|d2 G2 fe|d2 c B2 A|G/A/G/F/ E2 ed|
c2 G2 fe|d2 G2 fe|d2 c B2 d|1ce Gc ed:|2ce Gc-cc|
d>c BAGF|AG/F/E4|C>D EF GA|d>e f4|
f>e dc BA|G/A/G/F/ E4|C>D EF GA|d>e f4|
f>e dc Bd|ce Gc|]!

 

And here it's in Bmajor, like you play it.

 

X:1
T:Jota Castellana
A: Castilla
S: Fernando on www.youtube.com/watch?v=piUCWpnzIrI
Z:Leonard 17/02/2010
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:B
dc|:B2 F2 ed|c2 F2 ed|c2 B A2 G|F/G/F/E/ D2 dc|
B2 F2 ed|c2 F2 ed|c2 B A2 c|1Bd FB dc:|2Bd FB-BB|
c>B AGFE|GF/E/D4|B,>C DE FG|c>d e4|
e>d cB AG|F/G/F/E/ D4|B,>C DE FG|c>d e4|
e>d cB Ac|Bd FB|]!

 

Thanks for the tune.

 

Leonard

 

(Edited for typo; and to change time signature from 6/8 to 3/4)

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Thank you Fernando! good link you posted! with many photos of dulzainas! thats nice! and I didn't know there were castilian tunes in 7/8! I know there are in 8/8 (entradillas) and 5/8 or 10/8 (bailes corridos and charradas). And someone told me that jotas are 3/4, but with the stress made in a certain way that makes them different from waltzes and other types of 3/4, but I don't know well the details of these.

 

One friend of mine recorded a short video of me just when I came from UK with Virginie (that's the name I put to my new concertina), this is the link:

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/chirritutiplen#p/f/3/usrX0vHtZhs

 

I love this concertina! it is so much fun to play it! I will record more videos, but I will wait some time until I find myself comfortable enough. But be ready for Basque Country music! I just love that music, it has been like a discovering for me.

 

It is nice to hear from you Fernando!

 

Take care!

 

 

F*****g hell! I've seen your 'tina and I'm seriously crossed... (joking) Anyway, given the fact I'd have to wait 3 more years for my Suttner, I'll not say to you that anglo is superior 'til then - of course, as all connoisseurs know, anglo is the superior system :P -.

 

All the best to you! Hope i'll see you soon at homeland!

 

Cheers,

Fer

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Wonderful Leonard! well done! thanks a lot for that! very good work you did. Unfortunately I'm not good at writing and reading music, but I want to learn! I'm taking lessons now and I'm trying to play reading ABC scores. There are signs I cannot understand well from your writting, because I still need to learn about the meaning of a few signs used for ABC. But it seems to me that you wrote the tune with a 6/8 time signature. The tune is a jota, and I'm afraid you will have to change the ABC to 3/4 time signature. A jota is the same time signature as a waltz, the difference with the waltz is the internal stress in the beats, they are organised in different way. I've heard that waltzes and jotas are not the only types of 3/4, in swedish traditional music they play other types of 3/4, with the difference again in the stress of the beats. I would like to know these things more in detail... I hope to discover them someday!

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You are right Chris! There are very different types of traditional music in Spain. But you can find jotas and tunes with the same rhythm as jotas all over Spain. I don't know the name of the tune I play in this video, I called it Jota Castellana because it is a jota from the castilian traditional music. And it is a dance, I use to dance them! it is nice to see the way they dance jotas in different places in Spain: Basque Country, Castilla, Galicia, Aragon... places far from each other dancing the same rhythm with a very different style

 

Cheers,

 

Fernando

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I hope as a spaniard married to a british can help you...

 

Chris, more or less. But a lot stronger, the spanish 'J' is as hard as the arabic sound, it comes from the back of your throath as if you were going to clear it - or, sorry, to spit-.

 

This and the vibrant spanis 'rr' are the most difficult sounds to my wife :D

 

Cheers,

 

Fer

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It's great to see the extension of concertina adaptation to various cultural styles. that's why YouTube is such a fascinating resource.

 

i'm sure Dan worrall's book on the Anglo could be extended by the help of a Spanish speakersmile.gif I'm sure the concertina found its way to so many parts of the globe

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I hope as a spaniard married to a british can help you...

 

Chris, more or less. But a lot stronger, the spanish 'J' is as hard as the arabic sound, it comes from the back of your throath as if you were going to clear it - or, sorry, to spit-.

Cheers,

 

Fer

 

 

Yes, that's what I thought, Fer, except that I didn't want to 'spit' here on C.net. :rolleyes:

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Wonderful Leonard! well done! thanks a lot for that! very good work you did. Unfortunately I'm not good at writing and reading music, but I want to learn! I'm taking lessons now and I'm trying to play reading ABC scores. There are signs I cannot understand well from your writting, because I still need to learn about the meaning of a few signs used for ABC.

Thanks for the compliment.

 

You know LeSession: Steve Manfield's Abc music tutorial? That site has been very helpful to me. It answers all my ABC questions.

 

But it seems to me that you wrote the tune with a 6/8 time signature. The tune is a jota, and I'm afraid you will have to change the ABC to 3/4 time signature. A jota is the same time signature as a waltz, the difference with the waltz is the internal stress in the beats, they are organised in different way. I've heard that waltzes and jotas are not the only types of 3/4, in swedish traditional music they play other types of 3/4, with the difference again in the stress of the beats. I would like to know these things more in detail... I hope to discover them someday!

I've edited my previous post to change the time signature from 6/8 to 3/4.

 

I love to play mazurkas, which are in 3/4 as well, whose rhythmic feel is also very different from a waltz. (and from a jota...)

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Thank you Leonard! I will have to analyse it now, and I need some time to get it, thanks for the link. This is very helpful to me because it is a tune I already know how to play. I've been very surprised with the response that this Spanish tune has had in the forum, I didn't expect all those visits, and I didn't expect that someone was going to write the tune in ABC!. That's nice, some other time I will post some other video with another Spanish tune. But at the moment I have to get used to my new concertina, and improve my playing. I must reduce the number of mistakes I do all the time! and this takes time, that's for sure, this is only a hobby, I don't do this full time..

 

Nice to meet you!

 

All the best!

 

Fernando

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