gavdav Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 Ok - I have a box with a row of pretty unuseful duet keys (on an otherwise anglo) I am wondering if as I restore the rest of the box if these could be moved and retuned to form a sensible baritone or diatonic row. I need some input from people who have experience of how far reeds will move and some idea of how I can get a useful diatonic scale. This is a C/G so the scale I end up with needs to fit with easily chordable keys on the standard C/G 36 layout. The notes I have are: LH G2 Ab2 A2 Bb2 B2 RH Bb3 B3 A3 G3 Gsharp3 Csharp4 C4/B6 Ok - I know they are crazy, but it feels like it should be rejiggable into something useful...
michael sam wild Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 Beats me Gav, you have some weird 'tinas!
david fabre Posted January 31, 2010 Posted January 31, 2010 (edited) Ok - I have a box with a row of pretty unuseful duet keys (on an otherwise anglo) I am wondering if as I restore the rest of the box if these could be moved and retuned to form a sensible baritone or diatonic row. I need some input from people who have experience of how far reeds will move and some idea of how I can get a useful diatonic scale. This is a C/G so the scale I end up with needs to fit with easily chordable keys on the standard C/G 36 layout. The notes I have are: LH G2 Ab2 A2 Bb2 B2 RH Bb3 B3 A3 G3 Gsharp3 Csharp4 C4/B6 Ok - I know they are crazy, but it feels like it should be rejiggable into something useful... Hi gav, I was puzzled, now I'm mystified : this seems not consistent with the layout you formerly posted ! (where I can read A,Bb,B,C on the left and G#,A,Bb,B,C,C# on the right). Or is it yet another instrument ??? And I'm still not sure about the octave. Is middle see C4 for you ? If so notes on the right hand must be in the range of the left hand G row ? I'd be happy to help you but please check again what you have... David Edited January 31, 2010 by david fabre
gavdav Posted January 31, 2010 Author Posted January 31, 2010 Ok - I have a box with a row of pretty unuseful duet keys (on an otherwise anglo) I am wondering if as I restore the rest of the box if these could be moved and retuned to form a sensible baritone or diatonic row. I need some input from people who have experience of how far reeds will move and some idea of how I can get a useful diatonic scale. This is a C/G so the scale I end up with needs to fit with easily chordable keys on the standard C/G 36 layout. The notes I have are: LH G2 Ab2 A2 Bb2 B2 RH Bb3 B3 A3 G3 Gsharp3 Csharp4 C4/B6 Ok - I know they are crazy, but it feels like it should be rejiggable into something useful... Hi gav, I was puzzled, now I'm mystified : this seems not consistent with the layout you formerly posted ! (where I can read A,Bb,B,C on the left and G#,A,Bb,B,C,C# on the right). Or is it yet another instrument ??? And I'm still not sure about the octave. Is middle see C4 for you ? If so notes on the right hand must be in the range of the left hand G row ? I'd be happy to help you but please check again what you have... David previous layotu in the other thread is for the G/D which I'm used to now - this is a C/G and a totally different kettle of fish!! yes, middle C is C4 I think - will have to check - the notes I gave are the readout from my peterson strobe tuner...
david fabre Posted January 31, 2010 Posted January 31, 2010 Oops, sorry, I misunderstood. So you have TWO of these strange anglo-duets of a kind that none of us has ever seen ONE... How did you manage to get them ??? So, let's see : LH G2 Ab2 A2 Bb2 B2 That seems to enlarge the scale on the bottom. This looks like a good idea, personnally I'd keep them. However, if the rest of the instrument is standart, you must be lacking some notes in the next octave : D3, C#3, D#3, G#3. You could keep all these extra notes in a single direction and add the missing ones. RH Bb3 B3 A3 G3 Gsharp3 Csharp4 C4/B6 The first 5 are basses, strangely located on the right side. The C# seems on the right place. The last is very strange : is there really nearly 3 octaves of gap between the three notes ? Or is your tuner also going crazy trying to understand the layout
gavdav Posted February 1, 2010 Author Posted February 1, 2010 no, it really does leap like that - insane! I trust the Peterson pretty much more than my own ears I got the G/D from Paul Read having played it a couple of years ago and subsequently became enchanted by the possibililty for a singer of the extra drones - I have become addicted since and stopped playing my other boxes. When the opportunity to do a straight swap with my 30 key for the C/G from the same ledger page came up I went for it despite some weaknesses of the instrument - the C/G has suffered damp in its past and needs some restoration - new springs and a retune still to come. However, I'm into these instruments enough to believe A/G Duet in the ledgers doesn't mean "Jeffries Duet" but something else entirely - oddballs for sure but there's something pretty awesome about them all the same.
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