Ptarmigan Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Just watched a Wheatstone go for £1,100 on Flog It at an Auction in Kilmarnock. So did anyone here buy it & did it stay in Scotland? Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Day Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Nice English even for £1100, I would think a bargain at that price. I think the original estimate was £150 - £250 so much for these experts. He hastily withdrew that amount and went for £1200, probably after he told someone his estimate and they said "HOW MUCH you are £1000 out". Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted December 15, 2009 Author Share Posted December 15, 2009 Yes indeed Alan, £150 to £250. I've noticed they very often put in a low estimate as a "Come & Buy Me" price, to draw in the buyers, but on this occasion, the expert really didn't have a clue! Unfortunately I didn't see the whole piece, twas her indoors who called me through to see it, but I did see that it had straps, so do you know, was it a TT? Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene S. Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Yes indeed Alan, £150 to £250. I've noticed they very often put in a low estimate as a "Come & Buy Me" price, to draw in the buyers, but on this occasion, the expert really didn't have a clue! Unfortunately I didn't see the whole piece, twas her indoors who called me through to see it, but I did see that it had straps, so do you know, was it a TT? Cheers Dick Dick - here's the link to the BBC iplayer rendition of the programme http://www.bbc.co.uk...8_Kilmarnock_9/ (NB this won't work if you're outside the UK). No mention of the particular type of English (nor do I recall hearing how many keys). It seems, Al, that the talking head revised his estimate upwards nearly 100 fold as a result of having auctioned a similar item the previous week, and having then realised exactly what type of price such instruments were currently fetching. (Loved the way he was handling it on opening the box ... not?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Jordan Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 (edited) Yes indeed Alan, £150 to £250. I've noticed they very often put in a low estimate as a "Come & Buy Me" price, to draw in the buyers, but on this occasion, the expert really didn't have a clue! Unfortunately I didn't see the whole piece, twas her indoors who called me through to see it, but I did see that it had straps, so do you know, was it a TT? Cheers Dick I did watch it and was throwing things at the TV! Particularly when he dragged the bellows open, without the aid of the air button! It was like taking a chisel to an antique desk to see what wood it was made of!! Complete philistine! Normally on these shows when looking at hallmarks etc, these so called experts show off their knowledge by instantly naming the year, town of manufacture, and even maker.. This pillock didn't even mention the number! He got the name Wheatstone right, I suppose. Mainly because it's written on the plate! I estimated £1300 as soon as I saw it. One day I'm going to turn up at an antiques roadshow with my box, and pretend to be totally ignorant, just for a laugh! At least the seller got a reasonable price in the end, and the buyer will have got a bargain. Look out for it on E Bay soon!! Probably on BBC I Player for a week or so. Worth a laugh. PS. A 48 Key standard English. Didn't look like a Tenor Treble, or the original estimate would have been even more laughable. The "Expert" did not have a clue! Edited December 15, 2009 by Ralph Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterT Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 One day I'm going to turn up at an antiques roadshow with my box, and pretend to be totally ignorant, just for a laugh! Maybe we should all turn up; that would be a laugh! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon H Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Looked like it had been assailed with bad tools and a bad owner during its life - the screws were surrounded by damaged wood. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene S. Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 One day I'm going to turn up at an antiques roadshow with my box, and pretend to be totally ignorant, just for a laugh! Maybe we should all turn up; that would be a laugh! Antiques Roadshow will be out and about again in 2010 ... I like the sound of your idea Peter !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted December 16, 2009 Author Share Posted December 16, 2009 Dick - here's the link to the BBC iplayer rendition of the programme Thanks Irene. I see that it comes up around 32 mins. Having seen the whole piece now, I see that his Uncle actually gave him the Concertina & that his Uncle is a Glasgow Bin Man. Wonder if Glasgow folk make a habit of throwing out Concertinas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Jordan Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Dick - here's the link to the BBC iplayer rendition of the programme Thanks Irene. I see that it comes up around 32 mins. Having seen the whole piece now, I see that his Uncle actually gave him the Concertina & that his Uncle is a Glasgow Bin Man. Wonder if Glasgow folk make a habit of throwing out Concertinas? I'd tread carefully there old bean. Going through peoples bins in Glasgow, could have alarming consequences! The mildest of which would be to have your collar felt by the local Plod! And seriously. Is it a good idea to let the public (and especially dealers) know the true value of concertinas? To me, the chance of then picking up a real beauty decreases! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted December 16, 2009 Author Share Posted December 16, 2009 I'd tread carefully there old bean. Going through peoples bins in Glasgow, could have alarming consequences! The mildest of which would be to have your collar felt by the local Plod! And seriously. Is it a good idea to let the public (and especially dealers) know the true value of concertinas? To me, the chance of then picking up a real beauty decreases! Hey Ralph, to me the really serious point is that, it's far more important that no more wonderful Concertinas are ever again thrown out, into the Bin or a Skip, as rubbish. Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDT Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 One day I'm going to turn up at an antiques roadshow with my box, and pretend to be totally ignorant, just for a laugh! Maybe we should all turn up; that would be a laugh! And your an antique show veteran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterT Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 One day I'm going to turn up at an antiques roadshow with my box, and pretend to be totally ignorant, just for a laugh! Maybe we should all turn up; that would be a laugh! And your an antique show veteran Well, as Tim Wonnacott is no longer on Antiques Roadshow, I might not be rumbled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDT Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) One day I'm going to turn up at an antiques roadshow with my box, and pretend to be totally ignorant, just for a laugh! Maybe we should all turn up; that would be a laugh! And your an antique show veteran Well, as Tim Wonnacott is no longer on Antiques Roadshow, I might not be rumbled. Well you could always wear a hat and fake moustache...oh wait...that wouldn't work. lol! btw. I haven't got any antiques...most stuff I've got is no older than me at its oldest. Edited December 16, 2009 by LDT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterT Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Just watched a Wheatstone go for £1,100 on Flog It at an Auction in Kilmarnock. In between looking out of the window at the first (tiny) snowflakes of winter, I've just watched this programme. Very interesting; this is probably the concertina which Ian Munro was telling me about. The valuation hall is just a short walk from Ian's house! If so, Ian spotted the concertina after the valuation, and put the owner right about the likely valuation; Ian was spot on. Bonus point for anyone spotting the other concertina on the show. Opening credits show the Royal Doulton "Jolly Sailor" figure; worth rather less than the Wheatstone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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