nkgibbs
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Just to let C.netters know that I have two 20b Anglos for sale on ebay at the moment.
They have both been serviced and are in playable condition:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285754220792
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285733417268
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This weird (eg air button connecting to a reed!) beast has just been sold for £450!
Please, if the new owner is on C.net, put us out of our misery and reveal what is inside it !
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Ja
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It’s certainly a weird beast.
Did German makers ever use riveted posts?
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Re the above discussion about Swan concertinas
http://nose-flute.blogspot.com/2012/10/more-about-swan.html
Neil
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I suppose that complexity in the action allows for simplicity in the ends? ......don’t use simple Lachenalesque rods and hoop pivots, because then the button holes have to be accurate?
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Stephen,
Yes, it was your excellent PICA article that 'peeked' my interest! Well done tracking down Lizzie Ireland.
Do you have any idea what this 'Concertina Depot' is in the top right label (NB the 'Wheatsone' print is appearing from the label below)?
Between the inner and outer bases the box there were scrunched up pages of a Daily Telegraph supplement on the Anglo-Argentine exhibition dated February 1931. I suppose all that we can say is the to and fro mailing started after 1931.
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I recently bought a 20b Jones Anglo that came in a softwood box, within this cardboard box.
Peeling back the labels, it appears that Miss Ireland in Clitheroe had received the Jones from Barker Son & Heins, who received a concertina from the 'Concertina Depot' which I suspect was a trade name for Joseph Astley, who had taken delivery of a concertina from Wheatstone!
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Randy,
You May already have this 30b Anglo ( 190530 ) on your radar.....it has some great dating documentation.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133506909058
Neil
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On 8/27/2020 at 3:01 PM, Eddystone said:
Hi Dowright, can you help me? I have what I believe to be a Lachenal Anglo with a serial number of 181530. It belonged to my parents, who got married in 1931. It came to me in the 1940's. Where they obtained it I do not know. It has 21 ebony buttons, a 5 section bellows, a rosewood fret and its only mark other than the serial number is a stamp saying steel reeds. It has stayed unlooked at for decades, but recently my daughter recovered it from my loft, where we found it rattled. I have now dismantled one end, only to find a reed floating free. All of the buttons work, except the 21st one which just seems to be a bellows release. (the 21st. button is on the other end to the one I took off).There are no empty chambers, so the reed is a mystery. The machine has never been touched , repaired or adjusted for at least 70 years. Uncovering the reed section showed no markings of any sort. The reed measures 40mm so appears to be a bass one.
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Eddystone,
This sounds intriguing.......can you post photos of the concertina and the ‘mysterious’ reed?.......maybe on a new thread?
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Many thanks for your comments and the very kind offer of a further reed pan . I have received Mike’s pans and one fits perfectly with just one support block needing to be lowered. The other was marginally (<1mm on a couple of edges) too large but this has sanded down and now fits. No trouble with warping. So far so good with all the pad holes seeming to line up with the reed chambers. I will report back when the original reeds are (hopefully) fitted.
At this stage it seems that Henry Ford could have learned something from Louis Lachenal (& Co) when it comes to transferable parts!
Neil
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Dear MIke,
That is brilliant, many thanks. Could you possibly email me on neil.gibbs@manchester.ac.uk ?
best regards,
Neil
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I am trying to find a set of 'standard' 30b Lachenal C/G Anglo reed pans (without the reeds).
I have acquired a late model Anglo that has good steel reeds but was obviously a bespoke job for someone with very eclectic requirements in the layout department.
To paraphrase a well-known (UK) comedy sketch 'the reeds are all there but not necessarily in the right order' !
I don't have the right tools or skills to make new reed pans but would be able to adjust an existing set to fit the concertina.
I would be most interested to hear if anyone has a suitable set of reed pans that they would consider selling.
many thanks,
Neil
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Good evening,
I am trying to find a set of 'standard' 30b Lachenal C/G Anglo reed pans (without the reeds).
I have acquired a late model Anglo that has good steel reeds but was obviously a bespoke job for someone with very eclectic requirements in the layout department.
To paraphrase a well-known (UK) comedy sketch 'the reeds are all there but not necessarily in the right order' !
I don't have the right tools or skills to make new reed pans but would be able to adjust an existing set to fit the concertina.
I would be most interested to hear if anyone has a suitable set of reed pans that they would consider selling.
many thanks,
Neil
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I have just opened up a 26b Lachenal Anglo and found an unusual inked stamp (see photo) .
A bit of Googling suggests that J.V Redington may be this gentleman:
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/an-irishman-s-diary-1.377416
https://kilmacudcrokes.com/hurling/jim-redington-rip
I am not sure whether the concertina was owned by Mr Redington .....or maybe repaired by him and any further information that C.netters may have would be of interest.
Neil
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Stephen,
There is a large thread on this subject here:
Hope that this helps,
Neil
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On 4/2/2020 at 12:43 PM, Dowright said:
nkgibbs,
No. 36768 Anglo is tough to date, by I would guess circa 1874. I wish I could be as definite as I am about the ones for Paul Reed, below.
Paul Reed,
No 1444444 Anglo was made in 1896. No. 53880 Edeophone was made in June 1923. The Anglo certainly was not purchased by a Chinese; they are extremely superstitious about the number "4".
Dear Randy,
Many thanks for the dating of this Anglo. The c1874 date fits in with the concertina not having the 1878/9 reed trademark.
Best regards, Neil
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A. Resident?
More likely you meant E.I.N. Weiterer = A.N. Other...
Steven, You are absolutely right! German was never a strong point!
Neil
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So the maker is E.I.N. Wieterer.........?
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Thanks Steven.
Do we have any clue about the maker? The 'half-body' reed plates seem to be unique ?
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Stephen,
Many thanks for your sage words, diagnosis and the link to a thread that I failed to find. Do you think that the German manufacturer had access to Nickolds parts or just copied them?
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Dear C.netters,
I recently bought this strange little beast.
Despite being pretty well built, having full bone buttons and a metal action, I don't think that it is English. This is supported by the reed blocks and the very odd reed chamber set up.
"German", I hear you cry but the pencil marks on the Left and Right ends are 8 B (?) and 8 G respectively. G for left hints French but the B on the right, unless I am misreading it, doesn't. The action pivots also look as if they have been lifted from a Nickolds.
I would be very interested to hear if anyone has come across a concertina like this before.
Thanks,
Neil
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Dear Randy,
Could I perhaps also request a dating for a recently acquired, mahogany ended, brass reeded, 20 button Anglo #36768 ?
Many thanks in advance,
Neil
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Many thanks for your observations and the very impressive results of your finishing. French polishing sounds like the route to follow for a true restoration although Tru Oil sounds interesting.
I realise that it wouldn't be 'authentic' but has anyone tried a clear nitrocellulose sprays that seem to be used extensively by guitar (especially electric) restorers?
Thanks again,
Neil
George Jones and Lachenal 20b Anglos for sale on ebay
in Buy & Sell
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Both of these concertinas are now sold.
I have a steady stream of good antique concertinas coming up for sale so please keep an eye open.
If anyone has a specific concertina that they are looking for, please PM me.
Best wishes,
Neil