Frank Edgley
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USE OF LEATHER SOFTENER?
Frank Edgley replied to Dowright's topic in Instrument Construction & Repair
Depending on who made it, it may be a bellows not using leather, at all. Then softener would probably not do anything to help in any case. An equally important factor may be the depth of the folds. very shallow folds mean that the bellows have to be pulled out more to achieve the same effect. For example, two bellows...one with shallow fold bellows and one with deeper folds. To pull them out to the same amount, let's say 8 inches, the angle that the folds of the bellows makes with the shallow folds may be 60 degrees, but the deeper fold bellows may only need to be pulled out to 30 degrees. Just a hypothetical as far as numbers are concerned, but you get the idea. A shallow bellows may never be as easy to play as a bellows with deeper folds. -
Bellows paper pattern?
Frank Edgley replied to Paul_Hardy's topic in Instrument Construction & Repair
Probably not a good idea to use this pattern as it is too similar to another pattern, which would give the wrong impression of the person who would have it on their concertina. At least I hope no one would deliberately put it on their instrument. -
South Africa Wheatstone
Frank Edgley replied to StuJanis's topic in Instrument Construction & Repair
I recently received one of those South African- made anglos with Wheatstone logo. The tongues were crimped in place instead of clamped or riveted. Very poor response. -
Another factor in a good bellows is the depth of the folds. Shallow bellows may have seven or eight folds, but never reach good playability because the folds are too shallow. It's simple geometry.
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If the leather is that old, there is a likelihood that the leather is very dry. If that is the case, the leather would crack and if the bellows previously appeared sound, it would quickly degrade if played, even a little bit. With all respect to others who may have a differing opinion, I would use a small artists brush and apply a small amount to the gussets and corners, wiping off any excess. Stay away from any glued joints. It may be that the bellows cannot be saved, but there are repair persons who make very fine replacement bellows, in any case.
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There is a difference between A Mano and Tipo a Mano reeds in the way they are made, although I am of the opinion that who the reedmaker is makes the makes the biggest difference. With the maker I get reeds from both types are excellent, in tone and response, although I make 95% of my hybrid instruments with A Mano. Tipo a Mano is supposed to mean "hand finished" and A Mano is supposed to mean "hand-Made., according to what I have been led to believe. I don't think the model of accordion reed will get you closer to the "concertina sound," whatever that is. Different concertinas made by different makers, over time, sound differently. An Eglish system instrument sounds quite a bit differently compared to an anglo. A Jeffries anglo sounds different that a Wheatstone or Lachenal. As for quality, again this depends on the maker. I have seen Lachenal anglos with tolerances so wide you could drive a truck through, and some (usually the better models) with very good reeds. Modern Italian and Czech reeds are made as well or better than the reeds of most high end antique instruments. The sound of the various concertinas depends partly on the reeds, but also the design of the reed pans etc. etc.
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Lachenal spring problem (English Concertina)
Frank Edgley replied to Gail_Smith's topic in Instrument Construction & Repair
It may be that the felt button bushing a causing this...... friction! Remove the end of the instrument. Push a suitably-sized pencil into the hole with a twisting motion, Also using a soft lead pencil rub the lead onto the inner surface of the felt bushing, reducing the friction. Let me know how this works for you. -
Would it be unethical.......
Frank Edgley replied to Clive Thorne's topic in Instrument Construction & Repair
I agree. There are enough old derelict Lachenal anglos out there to rejuvinate....instruments best put out of their misery or, at least, reincarnate with new reedpans, and bellows. In my experience, most of them had warped reedpans, which made them difficult to get them to play well. Just make sure you do justice to the reeds, and bring forth a new "life" into the world! -
I'm pretty sure this is from leather drying out, cracking and splitting.
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If you have to take the pieces apart, it will be a challenge to get everything back to the exact size and shape. Even a few hundredths out of the original hex shape with the bellows frames will make the fit of the reedpans very difficult. Of course you will have to remove the bellows gaskets before you re glue. When re gluing and reassembling the bellows frames try using the reed pans within the frames to keep the original shape. i.e. glue parts together, and put reedpan into the assembled bellows frame before the glue dries, and hold using large elastic band(s). Make sure bellows frames are in the correct order and reedpan is oriented as it was originally. None of the original parts were probably exact in size, shape etc.
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Replacing Lachenal lever arms
Frank Edgley replied to Rod Pearce's topic in Instrument Construction & Repair
If Mike's offer doesn't work out, you can get brass rod from a hobby shop. Instead of relying on just a solder joint, you may be able to cut away some of the corroded arm and use the appropriate diameter of brass rod linked together to what is left of the arm using a short length of brass tubing with a drop of solder so it does not come apart . -
I have, in my possession an ebony Edgley Concertina, in new condition. It was not really played by the owner and is up for sale. This is a rare opportunity to get what is essentially a new instrument without the wait for it to be made, as it can be shipped very quickly. Please se my blog http://edgleyconcertinas.blogspot.com
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NOW FOUND - Empty Lachenal 30b Anglo reed pans
Frank Edgley replied to nkgibbs's topic in Instrument Construction & Repair
The problem I found with the vast majority of Lachenal reed pans is that almost were warped. This resulted in weak tone, and double notes. -
Scholer Anglo 20K design
Frank Edgley replied to rDmusic's topic in Instrument Construction & Repair
My first concertina was a Scholer. I played around with it for a month or two. Then one of the reed tongues broke. No one, not even the accordion dealer, here, in the city could repair it. It was a few years until I found a Bastari. The Scholer was a very poor instrument, but I guess if you lived in communist east Germany you played with whatever you could get. I now use it as the bellows on my tuning table. -
If not the ceiling fan, then I suspect those two notes are a bit loose and vibrating at their seat. If it occurs only when expanding the bellows it suggests that the negative air pressure which occurs when expanding the bellows would tend to pull the reed(s) away from their seat on the reedpan, and cause a very slight vibration. I am not familiar with the Weltmeister, but I suspect there reeds are waxed in. Examine the wax around those two reed plates. There may be a very fine spacing or crack around the reedplate, which may or may not be visible. If that is the case, it should not be difficult to put it right.
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Books on maintenance
Frank Edgley replied to Barry Swanson's topic in Instrument Construction & Repair
A very significant book. Recommended! -
what type of wood for action plates
Frank Edgley replied to Marien's topic in Instrument Construction & Repair
Baltic birch aircraft grade plywood would work for your Lachenal. It won't warp or split...ever. -
This technique will flatten the reed in question. Put a razor blade under the tongue. attach a heat sink to the reed by clipping it just behind the area you will apply the sloder. The reed sink is made of aluminium and is a clip device which looks like a tiny pair of scissors. Apply a VERY small amount of flux to the tip with a toothpick. Then apply the solder. Make sure you don't get flux on the edges of the tongue or the solder will get on the edge and prevent the reed from sounding. If that happens, it's not the end of the world, but you will have to carefully file it off. You will probably have made the reed too flat. That's when you start to remove the solder carefully with a small narrow bladed file. Keep checking the pitch. It's easy to go too far. Then you will have to add solder and start again. Personally, I'm not in favour of removing the D# by flattening it. There are many beautiful melodies that need the D# as an accidental.....some O'Carolan tunes, Airs and Northumbrian tunes to start with.
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Tooling leather is used. It is a tough cow hide. It will need to be dyed and a finish applied. Thicker leather certainly last longer, but is stiff and not comfortable. Thinner leather is much more comfortable, and lasts long enough. I have been playing my Heritage concertina for 5 or 6 years and have years to go before they are worn out, and they are very comfortable, allowing for easy movement of the hands. If you want to get a bit fancier, there are tools you can get from Tandy leather which will allow you to customise your leather. Just dampen the leather before tooling and let dry before dying and finishing. Another thing..... you must determine the grain of the leather. One direction stretches more than the other. If you cut the leather going the wrong direction your straps will stretch.
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Meantone Tuning on Anglo Concertina
Frank Edgley replied to Mike Hulme's topic in Instrument Construction & Repair
What other instruments? It wouldn't work well if playing with equal tempered instruments. Good with fiddle. -
My D# is flat (English Concertina)
Frank Edgley replied to Gail_Smith's topic in Instrument Construction & Repair
I would follow Dave's advice. Did you confirm the note was flat eith a tuner? It could well be the fiddler. -
A Broken Old Lachenal
Frank Edgley replied to Squeezebox Of Delights's topic in Instrument Construction & Repair
Things to find out..... (1) how badly are the reedpans warped? ...(2) Are the action boards warped as well or do the have cracks in them? ...(3) In what shape are the bellows gaskets. If the reedpans fit into the bellows frames, they will certainly nned shimming, but if the tops of the gaskets are worn out, allowing leaks between the body and bellows they should also be replaced. At least, thewooden grills are intact. -
A Broken Old Lachenal
Frank Edgley replied to Squeezebox Of Delights's topic in Instrument Construction & Repair
You definitely need a new bellows. No amount of fixing can repair that one. -
Replace the valve. Likely it has taken on a curve and is not sitting flat, requiring more pressure to pull it down to the surface of the reed pan. You probably should replace them all.