Posts posted by Lemon
For sale (readers of this forum have first choice, before I try eBay):
1. Wheatstone EC model 22 (...) NOT LONGER FOR SALE.
2. Wheatstone EC Aeola Tenor-Treble (...) SORRY, SOLD
3. Wheatstone EC #11809 48 buttons, concert pitch, 5 fold bellows, sweet tone, but not loud. Offers over €1500.
4. Lachenal EC #35484 Non Pareil Model Amboyna ends 48 buttons, concert pitch, sweet tone, 5 fold gold tooled brown bellows; unbelievable stunning looks. A museum piece in excellent playing condition. Offers over €3200.
All instruments are located in The Hague, Holland. Shipping costs for buyer.
Pictures and other information available for serious prospective buyers. Contact me via PM.
After any succesful sale, a donation will be made to Concertina.net.
PM sent; check your Profile - Messenger - My conversations.
Congratulations Leon M., your name was first out of the hat and so you'll shortly be receiving a copy of Indoors by Dapper's Delight. For those of you disappointed with the result, you can obtain a copy directly from www.karnaticlabrecords.com, or download it via Itunes or Amazon.
Thank you Mark, I'm very pleased. I once heard Susanna and Adrian play together live, it was excellent ... so I'm looking forward to the CD.
Might not be a baritone; might really be a tenor, as the original poster said. (...) If a tenor, it wouldn't be the first time we've seen a ledger model number that matched the standard size of the ends rather than the range of notes. (...)
Quite right. My nr. 27918 is a tenor/treble, but is described in the ledger as: 'No. 20A Octo Bar Black 56 Keys 8" '
Well, if anyone is interested in buying a concertina in the Netherlands, I have one for sale too. It's a 1920 raised metal-ended 48 key Wheatstone treble concertina, serial number 28605, model 22. (See my avatar). In very good condition and tuned in concert key. Same price as the one in the Amsterdam shop: €2300. Inquiries welcome. Photo's available. Location: The Hague, Netherlands.
Look here for a map of Dutch concertina player's locations. Nobody in Amsterdam (but not everyone is present on this map).
You could post at the Concertina Nederland forum: here.
There's more to find on that site about concertina players, concerts, etc. in Holland (and Belgium).
At this time, the calendar for May only shows an event at Nijmegen (that's not near Amsterdam).
From "Goodbye to Berlin" by Christopher Isherwood (this is the novel that inspired the stage and screen musical "Cabaret"):
"Down in the murky pit of the courtyard where the fog, in this clammy autumn weather, never lifted, the street singers and musicians succeeded each other in a performance which was nearly continuous. There were parties of boys with mandolins, an old man who played the concertina, and a father who sang with his little girls."
With no particular reference to our friend Roo, are we claiming that there is no such thing as incurable tone deafness ? Only asking !
Incurable tone deafness exist. According to Wikipedia: "Amusia refers to a number of disorders which are indicated by the inability to recognize musical tones or rhythms or to reproduce them. Amusia can be congenital (present at birth) or be acquired sometime later in life (as from brain damage). "
I recommend reading Oliver Sachs' Musicophilia.
(...) Does anyone have pictures of other models (other than the obvious Edeophone)?
This one is likely to be a Non Pareil (or Nompariel - sic - in an old Lachenal brochure I found on the WWW): .
The brochure says: AMBOYNA, all pertaining to exterior finish tastefully matched, tempered steel reeds as "The Excelsior," and all essential requisites of a truly genuine Instrument. Ca. 1895.
Possibly Frederica Weichsell, 1745-1786, a pupil of J.C. Bach in London, or Elizabeth Weichsell, 1768-1818, who later used the name of her husband, Billington. I'm not sure whether Elizabeth was the daughter of Frederica. More about Elizabeth at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Billington
Actually, it is "Hammerschmidt" (without 'e'). See about him: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Hammerschmidt
It seems to me that it concerns a composition from Hammerschmidt. Hence the mentioning of Hammerschmidt's Fest-, Bus- und Danck-Lieder, 1658 as source.
If it was a composition of J.S. Bach, it would have a BWV number (Bach-Werke-Verzeichnis); but there's no such number mentioned.
If Bach was only the arranger of the composition in the Bach Chorale Book, but you don't use his arrangement but your own, you can name Hammerschmidt as composer, and yourself as arranger.
I would like to know from you english system players if playing an instrument with raised ends makes a big difference in how it plays versus an instrumnet with flat ends.
I have two Wheatstones with, and one without raised ends. To me, it makes no difference at all when playing.
No - because it's one of those that comes out different each time However, if I get around to writing out a version (i.e. one that includes most of the little bits that get put together in different ways) I'll stick it on my web page and let you know.
Thanks, I'll have to wait ...
I don't know, but it only took 1 minute to set up a group, and it only takes 2 seconds to add an existing video to the group,
RatFace, thank you, not only for setting up this group, but also for contributing Rosline Castle.
Do you have, by any chance, a written arrangement of this song as you play it?
Would like to try this song too.
I am also buying a hard case so if i pay with pay-pal how do they know that i bought those two items.
Are you buying the hard case for another concertina? The Jackie comes in its own hard case.
Edited: Sorry, ignore this post. When I bought a Jackie two years ago, it came with a hard case, but I've seen that they now ship it with a soft gig bag.
I am wondering what experiences people have in finding a new hard case for a concertina. I'm in the UK and am looking for a hard case for a 64 button octagonal EC. I'd be grateful for any sources or recommendations.
Well, probably this is not a solution for a 64k oct EC, but: for a common 48k EC, like my Wheatstone model 22, I found a small but sturdy case at www.concertinaconnection.com for €50 (about GBP 35, USD 64). To fit the Wheatstone perfectly, my wife made four extra blocks in the corners (foam inside). She even made a small pouch in it (not on the photo's) for two screwdrivers (the Starrett 559A and 559B I bought from www.micro-tools.com after reading the Proper screwdriver thread on this forum).
This is another scam, but of the same kind. This Aeola was sold on eBay on May 20 for GBP 1920, see http://cgi.ebay.com/WHEATSTONE-AEOLA-56-KE...1QQcmdZViewItem
And it is now offered again by a China scammer, Buy-it-now offer.
Each time, the name of the scammer is different. This time it is gj54jj. Maybe he registered himself on Feb. 16, 2006, a hundred times or so.
Each time, the feedback is (0) of course.
eBay has removed the item. Rather quick, took about one day. The link in my original post doesn't work anymore.
This China guy had several other musical instruments for sale too. Probably all scams.
I was surprised , of course, to see that the same Wheatstone (even the same number) that I bought yesterday from Chris Algar, now is for sale in China for much less !
See eBay 7417250033
Of course it's a scam. I informed eBay immediately.
I wonder how long it wil take before eBay does something about it.
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Could it possibly be "TheDark Isle" ?
Thanks, but ...
The Dark Isle was not the tune that inspired me. It was not known to me before (shame on me, but its only recently that I entered the folk song-world).
The reason for starting this thread was: finding out if the tune in my mind is an existing tune ... if not, may I call myself a composer? If so, who is writing the words for the Unknown Lemon song?
(Could start with: There's a tune in my head ... And it won't go away ...)
quote=John Wild,Jun 19 2005, 10:11 PM]
[it is an unfamiliar key for the tune (to me!) but it could be the start of O'Carolan's Sheebeg & Shemor.
Having checked the full score, I think my guess was wrong though there is some similarity. Here is a copy of the tune I guessed for anyone interested in comparing further.
- John Wild
Well, thanks anyway for trying ...
You've written it in 3/4 time, so I suspect you're playing it more like a waltz than a jig. In Waltz time, it reminds me of a song called "The Rivers of Texas" or "Down by the Brazos." It was recorded in the 50s by The Weavers and in the 70s by Bill Staines. Your ditty is very similar to the last line of the verse. Here's a verse (from distant memory, and I've set it in F for consistency):
Thanks David. Yes, I play it like a slow waltz. And you're right, the endings are quite similar.
Four English Concertinas For Sale (Located In The Netherlands)
in Buy & Sell
Posted · Edited by Lemon
Still two for sale ...
Shipping within the EU only €30.