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  1. Here's my contribution, a label from a wooden-ended, 32-button Jones anglo:






    Not exactly mint condition, but the address is clear, and that raises a question. We appear to have three different street numbers: 350, 356, and 360. Did Jones at different times have three (or more) shops near each other on the same street, or have imperfect images resulted in misreading of the street number on some labels?


    I just knew that somebody around here would notice that. Even as I was creating the .svg file in the previous post, I suspected that I'd have to catch a whoopin' for getting the address incorrect. And I do believe it is incorrect. Upon reviewing your much clearer photos, I believe that the correct address should be 350 because I basically just guessed while tracing the label shown at the Concertina Museum website. That image is neither very large nor particularly clear and so, faced with uncertainty, I pointed the mouse and pressed "fire". The file is easily corrected - I created it using Inkscape - and I will happily do so if consesus is that the number is 350. Or you are all free to download a copy and put in any number you like. It'll probably only matter to owners of Jones 'tinas but I enjoyed creating it on the sly when I was supposed to be working on boring routine design work.

  2. I've had a Jones 30 key anglo brought to me for some repairs. Someone has poked their finger through the paper maker's label ( which looks like a reproduction to me ).


    Does anyone have a Jones label for an anglo they could scan and post?


    Many thanks,



    A reasonably clear scan of an existing Jones label can be had http://www.concertinamuseum.com/CM00343.htm here.

    Or if you'd like a cleaner scaleable version have a look at what I did here. and here

  3. The next Bay Area concertina players gathering will be on Saturday March 30 from 2-5 pm at the home of a local player who lives in the East Bay near the Berkeley-Albany border. We're currently doing these about two or three times a year. Players of all types of concertina in any playing style at any skill level are welcome. For more information, sent me a pm or e-mail me at hrshsand "at" earthlink.net.


    Aaaaaiiiieeee! So close, and yet, so far. Your right here in the same state. But it's still over 200 miles. One way.


    Is there anybody further north?

  4. I am glad that I can introduce my books for the Anglo Concertina (30-Button Wheatstone Lachenal System):


    The first book is "Gospel Anglo Concertina Solos"

    Here is a link to the book http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Anglo-Concertina-Solos-Ondrej/dp/1482385236/ref=sr_1_27_title_0_main?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1360244552&sr=1-27

    And here is an example from the book.


    Very tempting. But I'd like to see a list of song titles....



    I see the Tune-O-Tron has now gone thanks to the activities ofAspammers, what on earth do they get out of ruining such a good resource? :(

    its real shame is it was my 'go to' place for ABC conversion.


    btw. yep I've been away for a while from cnet, but I'm back. lol


    Um, the Convert-o-Matic is still there, you know.





    If you hurry, you can still do tune searches and download via the Wayback Machine.

    use this: http://web.archive.org/web/20120813020642/http://www.concertina.net/tunes.html to access an old copy. The browse function still works, or if you know how to manipulate the URL's arguments, you can still search for keywords. Hint: play with adding/modifying this: ?action=search&keyword=trumpet (at the end of the link).

  6. Hello to all,

    I am down in Northern California for a week or so and was wondering if any California members could tell me of a shop that might sell concertinas or melodions?

    Thanks, Mike

    You might try Smythe's Accordion Center in Oakland, though I'd suggest calling first to see what he's got in stock.




    Smythe's is a delightful place. And on my last visit he'd had a bulletin board listing all sorts of area happenings involving squeezy-box thingys. Sadly, I have yet to find anyplace between Oakland and Medford (Oregon) that even knows what a concertina is, let alone sells them.

  7. InsightandMind just about to finalise for youtube nearly five hours of Swaledale Squeeze 2011 first all-nighter 13/14 May. (Just Part of that session, as there is more....)


    Folk often ask if one can mention the name of the tune etc. of performer but that does not always happen/work.


    For this effort I thought we might try to attempt a little log.

    With start time / file name / start time again

    inputted into Table (in MS Word as a base).


    In theory one can then extract text/numbers from the cells/rows and have as separate Word text for sorting alphabetically or by time.


    We are hoping that means it can be sorted (in Word) by alphabetically with time point afterwards.


    It may help build a little searchable archive to which one could also add the dots praps. Unless someone else has a suggestion or tells us there is no point. Excel format is not an option (hate it anyway as it never fits on small screen etc etc).


    Thorts? ???



    Actually, depending upon how you intend to present/publish this information, using plain-text XML might work better. It would be a relatively simple process to create a webpage with the video embedded in it along with the controls needed to sort/format & present the information. It would be cross-platform/browser independant and eliminate the need for Word or other proprietary software. Someone with a website would simply need to offer to host the page....

  8. Old Cowboy tunes -

    by which I mean songs sung by old cowboys for old cowboys, and sometimes about old cowboys...


    Down In the Valley

    Streets of Laredo

    Back in the Saddle Again

    Tennessee Waltz

    Don't Fence Me In

    John Henry

    The Wabash Cannonball

    The Old Cowboy's Lament

    Tyin' a Knot In the Devil's Tail


    And some other stuff like:


    Trumpeteer's Lullaby - (see the Tune-O-Tron)

    Bolero (well, not yet, it's proven very complicated)

    Tu Fidelidad (a Spanish-language hymn)

  9. Hi all,

    I eventually had a little time to record something on my new Edgley G/D. It's called Robin's Waltz.

    The playing is not perfect, with a few wrong notes, and my mic is not an exceptionnal one but this is

    the best I can do now.

    I hope you enjoy.




    Nicely done! That's got a good fun sound to it. I certainly did not notice any "wrong" notes. Good for you! :)



    ...wait. Now that I've thought about it, it's terrible. You should quit playing the concertina altogether and send your Edgley to me...:ph34r:

  10. BTW the page doesnt work with the FireFox browser.

    Doesn't work with the SeaMonkey browser, either.

    Told me so in Dutch.



    Seamonkey and Firefox both use Html5.0 rendering engines. HTML 5 does not support the frameset tag. It's been deprecated. So using them just causes both browsers to skip rendering those parts. Also, there's a DOCTYPE declaration error which is further confusing the browser. Use the W3C's validation page for more info and hints on how to fix....


    And now, back to our regularly scheduled thread.... :)

  11. O yes, I replied to corrupt quote.

    No wonder.

    Case dismissed.

    P.s. There's still a hint that "The rich, the poor and the pretty..." are " all these lovely young ladies...", but it's negligible.


    Thirty Years a Stage Musician

    Thirty Years in the Old Music Hall

    The Rich , The Poor, The Pretty

    Comedians I've seen 'em all

    But of all those lovely young ladies

    One who could sing a bird off a tree

    Is waiting for me with a nice cup of tea

    Outside of the old stage door.


    (repeat last phrase)

    Is waiting for me with a nice cup of tea

    outside of the old stage door


  12. So I'm looking around for a 30-button concertina that wouldn't destroy a college student's budget. I found a 30-button Rochelle through buttonbox.com for $350 and they offer full purchase value refund when trading it in for one of their Morse & Co. concertinas. Should I go ahead and buy it, look for a better instrument/price, or stick with what I've got for now?



    Buy the Rochelle.

    Just like with any other instruments, the balance of cost versus "quality" is highly personal and complex. Search for the hundreds of other cnet threads if you want to read a thorough list of arguments on the subject. Then just buy the Rochelle.


  13. Which type of Concertina is best?


    a)The one being played by the puffy, bald-headed, traditional concertina expert

    b)The one being played by the pretty girl at the other end of the bar.

    c)The one that's been smashed to bits by the guitarist (or envious accordionist)

    d)All of the above.


    Sort of depends on your criteria for "best".

    What might appear to you or me as a redundant or idiotic question, may well be a turning point in the future of a budding musician. I'd say it would be very arrogant of either of us to assume any right to discourage, alter, or manipulate the forum's response to this or any question. Not to mention highly unlikely to suceed anyway. Next thread please...

  14. Hi

    is any one else having trouble with browsers not finding c.net. I have used IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome and all of them seem to have trouble finding c.net's server at one time or another. This has been an irritation over the last week or two. I just find it annoying to have to have 4 browsers available in order to find one that finds c.net.

    Any one got any suggestions? - or solutions.

    frustrated (with browsers!!!)




    Are you being watched by Homeland Security?

    My bet is it's a DNS server or ISP issue - Browser code doesn't have trouble finding internet addresses - they don't do any finding. The browser submits the request to the server, the server does the finding and fetching. Plus the fact that they all do it suggests that it's not a glitch in any one program, but rather occuring at the common factor - the server which they are talking to. Solutions would depend on what happens when your problem occurs. Are you getting any error messages?

  15. Kindly see below for discussion

    (whether acrylic or another 'plastic paint' can be used to strengthen, reinforce splitting from inside or also outside (to give a fresh look to) bellows


    Painting on paper with acrylic.

    Gary Smith (talking about paper preparation for painting with oils to get long life of painting):

    The secret to painting on paper and preparing less expensive papers lies in the wonder of the acrylic medium. Acrylic, is essentially a plastic in liquid form. When it dries, and it dries so fairly rapidly, it forms a highly resistant and protective layer of plastic. It also has excellent adhesive qualities, which makes it suitable for a number of painting and preparing purposes.


    All that is required are a number of layers of thin acrylic paint or medium on the paper. Three layers should be sufficient, allowing each layer to dry before applying the next. The texture that you might like to create will be determined by the amount of acrylic paint or medium you apply.

    ….The acrylic paint and medium is basically a layer of plastic that protects the surface against penetration from oil and other elements. Acrylic medium also strengthens the paper. This is the reason why relatively cheaper paper can be used with this method. However, remember that we are still dealing with paper and there are limits to its strength and flexibility.





    I wonder if THIS would work?

    Or any of These.


    There seems to be a world of people with leather issues....not just concertinists.

    This sounds like a good research project for someone - to determine just how well this stuff would serve to fix/patch a bellows.

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