Kautilya
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Righteeho & tks...for #Whom the fret tolls#" as it were!
Come to think of it, there is a guitarist in Translatlantic Sessions who plays a guitar flat on what looks like a pub table...
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dies irae
of course that first coupla notes pic is defnitlee esra supra t. but..... and, after clicking on pic, this time may need control + + + to see it clearly.
There are more possibles here and of course they are all in C
http://interletras.com/canticum/Eng/translation_deceased.html
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'Live and Let Die' quite appropriate for Dirge....
Should I take it as my motto do you think?
(I think you may have found guitar tablature there by the way; not much use to you, just use the notes)
dirge irae, dirge Illus would be classier and more Happy Reaper! (Or grimDge Reaper..)
Do you have a photo of this guitar table instrument? Would be interesting to try playing one....
The notes are ok as I can work them out - just wondered if those numbers were chords which could work too on tina... the numbers are placed on the stave as though indicating a note on the scale with the length on the flat line, tho it does seem a bit esra super titum
We are in the danger zone (0130) and could be left on our own boring each other (as per usual) if we keep this conversation up.
pps - I did try to get someone (last summer in the Yorkshire Alpine pastures) with a monster bass tina, interested in playing dies irae plain chant version but they gave up after five minutes... but do u reckon it is a goer? It sounds like a piece for the massed tina concert at the Albert Hall which no one is interested in
Here's the score - some nice slidey notes for fancy boxes with oval headed metal buttons
I shall try it tomorrow so I dont risk waking up the cows in the barn.
Nmad - wont load - I will put up in separate post
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'Live and Let Die' quite appropriate for Dirge....
I think I can probably claim to have the smallest ruportoor of anyone here, but (in keeping with dirgey type stuff I hope to learn) wot are these numbers /dots under the main toon line?
I think u may have to control ++ to see them in this tiny pic. OOPS - no! Just click on it
Up to end of line one it fits plain old 20-butt Anglo quite nicely.
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I've quickly sorted them out for a concertina ensemble: My Christmas music...
Tks Michel - they fit on one page squidged down in size.
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cut and pasted into tunotron a few times but not coming up. just name and then blank score page and or no midi music in mediaplayer...
would it help if you defined start and end of each version? making clear where cut starts and ends?
Or are we supposed to copy the WHOLE sderies of coded versions and paste?
tks
Hi Kautiliya
You only need to copy the text that is part of the abc. Not the remarks with the % on the left, and the last line of % 21.
The Tune-O-Tron works for me. Copy from X:1 to the last line like here.
X: 1T: Let All Mortal Flesh Keep Silence
C: Words: St. James, 4th Century.
.Down
.To
.This
.Line:.
[V: S2V2] ^F,,4 | G,,4 | D,4 | A,,4 | F,,4 | G,,2 (C, A,,) | D,4 |]
ABC just takes some getting used to. The Tune-O-Tron will give you a PDF suitable for printing, and a MIDI to listen and download.
Thanks
Leo
Tks Leo!
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okeydoke!
downloaded.
bit of a learning vertical!
I think I gave up once before....
Any quick tip to display all pages at once - tricky to keep up with the music and the buttons and leaping to the cursor to get the next page to show up ...
Spes in omnibus!
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I haven't a religious bone in my body but I know some good advent carols when I hear them.
I absolutely love this set of three stately ancient advent tunes which go back literally to the mists of time.
Here are a set of ABC's I found when looking for them - work brilliantly in ABC explorer.
Personent Hodie http://www.abc-notation.com/abcs/pe/personent-hodie/personent-hodie-vocorg.abc
O come O come Emanuel http://openhymnal.org/Abc/O_Come_O_Come_Emmanuel-Veni_Emmanuel.abc
Picardy - Let all mortal flesh keep silent. http://openhymnal.org/Abc/Let_All_Mortal_Flesh_Keep_Silence-Picardy.abc
You can hunt them down on youtube to play along to as well.
Something about these ancient tunes really sets my blood racing I love to tootle along to them, imagining I'm playing a thunderous cathedral organ.
Simon
http://openhymnal.or...ni_Emmanuel.abc
cut and pasted into tunotron a few times but not coming up. just name and then blank score page and or no midi music in mediaplayer...
would it help if you defined start and end of each version? making clear where cut starts and ends?
Or are we supposed to copy the WHOLE sderies of coded versions and paste?
tks
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CAN TINA BUSHING EXPERTS TRANSFER KNOW-HOW?
some clackety clack here
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will make it 1600 hits.....!
much fun!
(judging by the poor attempt to hide the mike amongst the bullrushes I assume you had MI5 set it up for you!)
For those asking earlier about mikes... - it is a Zoom?
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My repertoire has always been driven by who I am playing music with.
It started when I played trumpet (to dots)and joined a Glen Miller type band ,which led me to playing Ballrooom Dance Music.
When I joined the Broadwood Morris Men I bought my first concertina and played Morris Music. I was then asked to join a Country Dance Band so I stated to learn English Country Dance Tunes, moved on to another so ,more ECDM. We then started Rosbif so it was French Traditional Dance Music, Then GIGCB French English and Breton Music. Now I have teamed up with
Will Fly and the new repertoire Ballroom Dance Music, ECDM, FTDM 20s - 50s Standards in fact anything that takes our fancy.
A lot of repertoires.
Al
"Will Fly and the new repertoire Ballroom Dance Music"
Some audio - videos?? plse Al.
Does this include Glenn Miller and The Tower Blackpool type stuff?
(how much are you getting paid for afternoon tea peformance? http://www.theblackpooltower.co.uk/ballroom.php )
Just looking at an old Glenn Miller record (off the market...) to see if there were some toons to try - but they don't ring a bell.. Sunrise Serenade, My reverie, Pagan Love Song (must be pre-Xmas version!)
I see it will be anniversary of his death Tuesday Dec 15 (1969) so suggest you take the Tunnel for that next French gig and you can also do up a Big Band piece by end of day this Tuesday...
(Let me know if u want to borrow G MIller record - they are the original slightly hissy recordings on a 33 vinyl pressed at Victoria Works, Edgeware Rd)
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So, I ended up buying a cheap, "Italian-designed" (ie. made in China) concertina from eBay; I had owned a Bastari which, despite being 30-40 years old, played relatively well... but the buttons were kind of loose and wobbly and the thumb valve too far for my hands. So, I replaced with a new "Morelli" concertina and it did actually play and sound nice.
However, when I moved across the country and brought it in my car, it appears not to have enjoyed the 109 degree Nevada weather. I hadn't played it in a while, and when I pulled it out of the case to give it a go, no sounds coming out of the right-side (higher pitch) C/G reeds/valves.
I unscrewed the end and uncapped it and... sure enough, the reeds weren't even there. Most of them had completely fallen off and I could see melted wax segments here and there. What's worse is that some of the wax melted ONTO the reeds, meaning they now won't work even if I reaffixed them. However, I think if I clean off the wax and then rewax them, it'll be good as new. (I know I could take it to a repair shop, but why would I do that on something that cost less than $100 to begin with?)
So, my two questions are this:
1) What is a good way to clean/remove accordion wax? I've done the best I can by scraping with a knife, but in particular I need a way to remove the wax from the actual reed parts of a couple of the reed plates, or they get stuck and do not have that thin airway to vibrate. It seems like some sort of solvent might work best, but what? Goo Gone?
2) Anybody know where I can find and buy some accordion wax? I can't believe I can't find anybody who sells it. The best I've seen is a recipe for making your own out of 90% beeswax and 10% resin -- but even then, where do I get the pine resin (and in what form?) I'm sure actual accordion wax would work best but, if I can't find that, do you think it would work if I used plain beeswax? (not hard to obtain)
Know one v good repairer who just uses ordinary beeswax (as in full beeswax candle or pure beeswaxx (don;t know these sellers but e.g.: http://is.gd/5eq0Y
Repairer says its goes a bit hard but does the job and suits them).
Get soldering iron with small point (Chinese will do) hold machine/reed block at a slight angle pointing downwards, put soldering iron at top of gap you are going to fill, hold beeswax just above soldering iron and when it starts to melt just move both together downwards and gap is filled....
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Hi all
Before Christmas, I, again, fell in love with Italian organetto music and bought a used organetto (or, more precisely, a 1,5 row accordion with two basses, since for me who knows Italian, an organetto is any kind of diatonic accordion, although I know the English use of the word is different). I started browsing around on Italian organetto sites and found that they were building a tune database. Now I checked in there again today and found they've done a lot of work, and the site can probably be used and appreciated by any kind of instrumentalists, so I thought I'd share it with you here. You can find tunes of any origin, search by genre, author, tune type, grade of difficulty, etc, etc. It's in Italian, but don't worry about that, use the scroll menus and you'll find that they are in English. The tunes are in pdf (music notation and accordion tab) and midi and you can see what site they are taken from.
Enjoy - I know I will!
Omnbra mai fu - Cerco, cerco, ma non ci riesco a trovarla!
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P - was that a hint hint, squeeze squeeze, knock knock?
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Jim - you can't get past the front page even... Anglo Saxoninas would never do that... it those English Normans who came later....
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The answer to Russians?
I may (may) have the answer. There was some pretty whizzy stuff by the master tutors and squeezerati at the Witney ((hold yr air button!) Melodeon HandsonMusic weekend's formal concert on the Saturday in October but that was not for recording.
But I have some bits of us mainly UK students and our homework set pieces on the final show us your stuff on the Sunday afternoon......
The dancing meolodeonites showed how to work your legs like a bellows at slow speed, Then another class did a piece that went faster and faster and faster -- hi-speed bellowsing. My group of course was squeezing in and out wildly in every direction but no pics as I did not have enough hands.....
Why so much explanation? Weeeell (he said, pressing air button and pulling out bellows for a big sigh)- the video off my still camera ain't that good and the files are enormous. So u will just have to wait till I sort it out to show it somehow. I have sorted out the time delay between the music and the picture by using Videolan.org (Windows' Media Player is a no no...) .. but but but...
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on the the Russian video (he really must have been christened Akkordeon coz I could not find his name in the info -- LoL) he did not have to pull and push for different notes so he had big advantage over Anglotinas and Melodeons.
PPS
I am sure u did not mean the phrasing as it came out from your quill but u might want to go back and fix it or they will think we are dim if we think such brilliant playing is the same as the Pol-glish for carp -- you know, the fish but spelt with a Kr....
MELODEON FAST BELLOW-DAN-SING (apologies to clever bellow-sing post!)
Somone helped me out with their youtube site:
In two parts - slow start then the beginning of the faster piece which continues on the second URL for grand finale....
http://www.youtube.com/user/InsightandMind#p/u/3/Z1LsQQWI8d4
http://www.youtube.com/user/InsightandMind#p/u/2/RSEKGi_B1fI
Dancing melodeonites doing slow bellow-dan-sing
http://www.youtube.com/user/InsightandMind#p/u/1/rt-Lay92dUI
Bell-less playground-/'step-'/morris-dancers who couldnt quite get their joint bellows
action right but prove that you can even make a fine noise with just one-sided-belly-danc-clap-ing.
http://www.youtube.com/user/InsightandMind#p/u/0/6IudKCcyzkI
ps -as many will know, the weekend organiser Dave Townsend is a whiz tina player and his coorganiser, his better half, plays the accordeon.
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...I have suddenly found my finger in the top fret hole on right side where the posh tinas have names of the makers. It just happens when I want to really pull out the bellows very fast against the extra strong air button spring and it makes it so much easier. More purchase than holding the concertina down against my knee.
I honestly do not have the faintest idea what you are talking about....
Perhaps you can explain?...here is a nice piccy which may help.
It looks to me that Kautilya is pressing that finger against the end in order to brace the back of the palm tightly against the strap, forming a "rigid" structure to transfer the force used to pull out the bellows. I expect that otherwise there would be some play in the contact between the hand and the hand strap, resulting in a slight delay when trying to pull suddenly and strongly. I suspect that the placement of the finger in that "hole" in the fretwork is a coincidence of the size of Kautilya's hand and the details of the fretwork design. That finger (or another) could just as well have been braced by simply pressing against some other portion of the end.
Edited to add: I just took another look at the photo, and I revise my analysis. While what I describe above is a viable technique (variations of which I use all the time; after all, pressing on a button also braces the hand), it looks like Kautilya isn't just pressing on the end, but may actually be using the finger in the fretwork to pull the hand tighter in the strap. Hmm.
Yes Jim y're right - pulling (
The finger there also allows a bit more push as my overstrong airbutton spring means the heavy lower pressure from the thumb seems to push the top of the fretwork away from the bellows and up to the right if the finger is not exerting counterpressure to thumb... probably just a bad habit but I certainly did not set out deliberately to achieve this - mmy hand just sort of worked it out on its own.
Mabybe no connection but interesting how many Melodeon plays use their right thumb against the vertiical keyboard to stop it moving and increase that control with their ONE shoulder/elbow strap -- go watch the video which I will put in next box separate from this. They keep adjusting that shoulder/elbow strap like its a live snake!
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Dirge - you're worried about being close to the sea?! I found on my last space trip the lack of air meant I had to attach a motor to my bellows to get any real whoosh and then of course on landing the water which shot up in the air sprayed everwhere. Put me in an L of a Cross mood
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Is this Mr Göran around? Perhaps he might let us know a bit more?
Some will be shocked but I have suddenly found my finger in the top fret hole on right side where the posh tinas have names of the makers. It just happens when I want to really pull out the bellows very fast against the extra strong air button spring and it makes it so much easier. More purchase than holding the concertina down against my knee.
I honestly do not have the faintest idea what you are talking about....
Perhaps you can explain?Concerning the use of the bellows, I find that fanning (I never use it) is restricting my use of the bellows and therefor the dynamics I want to achieve. Probably it works for some kind of music (or musicians) but certainly not mine (or me).
That said I am not someone who thinks you have to stand up and sway your concertina around with some big gestures to get your concertina going. I saw some English EC players do that. I do it for fun sometimes (when no one's around). I turn around and sway/play my concertina until I get dizzy. But honestly I think I get the same effects sitting down and working my bellows ''normally'', except for the dizzyness of course.
If the first sentence was a question for me then here is a nice piccy which may help. V diff to take it lefthanded upside down, so, if it does not explain what I was stating, I will get my assistant (French not Russian!) Bresson to take it . BTW using the index finger would mean I could not reach the air button with thumb!
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Hi folks,
this is a bit like waiting for a bus - nothing for ages and then three come along at once
. I think it's a great idea though and people have been asking me about lessons, so here I am!I'm 20 years playing and teaching concertina, I've a few albums under my belt and I've done my fair share of teaching in Ireland and abroad. You can check out some of my music at www.slide.ie and http://www.myspace.com/slideie.
I've also got a tunes tutor book out which I believe has been well received http://www.waltonsmusic.com/images/BUTTONACCORDION-CONCERTINA.gif
So, if you have the appropriate technology - webcam, mic, and decent broadband - and you want some expert tuition, drop me a line at aoganlynch@gmail.com
How much via paypal please?
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Is this Mr Göran around? Perhaps he might let us know a bit more?
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Hi Kautilya
He has a YouTube channel with his ideas. http://www.youtube.com/user/Gran43#g/u
Thanks
Leo
Tks!
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Is this Mr Göran around? Perhaps he might let us know a bit more?
Some will be shocked but I have suddenly found my finger in the top fret hole on right side where the posh tinas have names of the makers. It just happens when I want to really pull out the bellows very fast against the extra strong air button spring and it makes it so much easier. More purchase than holding the concertina down against my knee.
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The answer to Russians?
I may (may) have the answer. There was some pretty whizzy stuff by the master tutors and squeezerati at the Witney ((hold yr air button!) Melodeon HandsonMusic weekend's formal concert on the Saturday in October but that was not for recording.
But I have some bits of us mainly UK students and our homework set pieces on the final show us your stuff on the Sunday afternoon......
The dancing meolodeonites showed how to work your legs like a bellows at slow speed, Then another class did a piece that went faster and faster and faster -- hi-speed bellowsing. My group of course was squeezing in and out wildly in every direction but no pics as I did not have enough hands.....
Why so much explanation? Weeeell (he said, pressing air button and pulling out bellows for a big sigh)- the video off my still camera ain't that good and the files are enormous. So u will just have to wait till I sort it out to show it somehow. I have sorted out the time delay between the music and the picture by using Videolan.org (Windows' Media Player is a no no...) .. but but but...
PS
on the the Russian video (he really must have been christened Akkordeon coz I could not find his name in the info -- LoL) he did not have to pull and push for different notes so he had big advantage over Anglotinas and Melodeons.
PPS
I am sure u did not mean the phrasing as it came out from your quill but u might want to go back and fix it or they will think we are dim if we think such brilliant playing is the same as the Pol-glish for carp -- you know, the fish but spelt with a Kr....
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AIR BUTTON SPRING TOO STRONG
Just while so many people are talking air buttons! Any tips for reducing strength of air button spring - really tough to press it down when going for a full open switch of bellows direction
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DOBRO
Dare I say it? It must have got its name after Stalin took up playing it in the Kremlin after moving from Georgia....and all the lackeys shouted "Dobro! Dobro!" even tho he was hopeless..