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  1. Is there any role, for, or particular advantages of pearwood (100 year old) in tina/reed instrument construction?

    It seems very dense and hard.

    It seems it is used for woodwind instruments but don't know why. Resonance? Praps it does not warp?

    Or do I put it on the fire....(it burns very poorly)?


    "Pear (pyrus communis - europe): pearwood is a light-colored, very fine grained, hard wood. The wood is pink-brown to peach colored. It is sometimes dyed black as an ebony substitute for fingerboards on less expensive instruments. Larger pieces are harder to come by. Sometimes exhibits flame figure."



    tks B)

  2. I think this one falls under the heading "Approach with extreme caution". First, the seller has zero feedback. And second, most of the text is lifted from my listing of a Wheatstone about a year ago.


    Is that someone's name punched into the leather lower part left and right ? cant make it out.

  3. In my experience, that's difficult to do. Lessening the spring tension on a Lachenal usually results in pad leaks. Of course, that would depend on how strong they are now.

    I asked something similar for an air button some weeks ago and in the end I went inside and found there were TWO springs fighting me on the lever. This was was why it was so hard to push in at full bellows and I was having to use the 'name-plate' hole to get some leverage on the bellows pull.


    I have removed one of the two springs and it is so much easier and 'seems' to be holding back the air... seems.....but I suspect escapes somewhere else, but I think that could be one of the usual mystery leaks.


    I may (wrong thread I am sure, and don't laugh) try putting part of a lit anti-mosquito coil or an incense cone (http://www.simplyincense.co.uk/products.asp?cid=273) under open (one end only)bellows. (The potential air leak may be somewhere where the usual light trick don't show.


    I already roughed up the chamois and the poor kid is getting thin in some outside edge areas and may need some paper sheet filler (Thank you Theo).

    (In the past I have used cigarette papers and sometimes the thicker, piece of card, which is there to tell you that there are only five thin papers left in a pack. I use regular size Swan papers but of course for long edges maybe the much longer cigarette papers might be useful but I have no experience of them. Maybe the ready-glued paper edge also helps sealing with the other glue.)


    The coil


    may be a pain to position, whereas the cone sits flat. A joss stick would be unstable and risky; though the stick might "reach the parts which cone and coil do not... "


    Of course Dirge may have some spare, (funereal of course) incense which he sells on the side...


    These cones and coils do not flame once lit, they just glow dimly and slowly emit smoke. If I chooose sandalwood perfume, at least the box will smell nicer than all those sawdust, beer and pub smoke smells which folk gloat about on their antique peformers...


    Judging from the front page of today's Sat/Sun FT the Pope has been trying the same technique on his Chemnitzer but maybe online only on Sunday :) ft.com - New Year Message.


    I am not sure how to post a smoke signal here about any resulting data. I know it has to be white for success and black for go back and try again...


    PS re earlier sneezing, coughing and supect fungus, I bought the anti-fungal liquid spray (not powder spray) and started trying it (tks v much for the earlier advice and guidance!) I was quite, perhaps over, cautious where I sprayed inside the bellows, away from reeds, so do not know if it has worked yet... I can't smell the spray... However, I can give specific brand details, costs and where to buy if anyone wants. B)

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  4. Hi all,


    Does anyone know where to find one or more of the following 4 compositions for concertina, writen by Giulio Regondi?


    Remembrance – Solo for the Baritone Concertina

    Larghetto - Thema – Variation 1 – Variation 2 – Variation 3 – Variation 4


    A Set of three Waltzes – for the Concertina Solo


    Hexaméron du concertiniste – Six études de concert pour le concertina


    Souvenir d’amitié pour la Concertina-Baritone

    Andante moderato - Adagio – Allegretto


    Thanks for any help,


    Marien - did u find what you needed? If not I expect to be popping into the British Library music archive in near future, so let me know, so that, if something u want is available, I can call it up. (I normally make requests online before I go in so that material is already waiting for me rather than a couple of hours if ordered after arriving) and there is a machine which can do digital copies for 10 or 20 p a page.


    pps - did you check with the Intl Conc Associ librarian?

  5. Since my name was mentioned I thought I'd just add that I didn't understand a word of that, especially not the bit about my id card warning? :unsure:



    Here u are Theo - wise advice: you warned people not to give the name and email etc of the person under discussion


    "Re: Warning - irresponsible eBayer

    « Reply #78 on: November 28, 2009, 08:35:41 AM »

    Reply with quoteQuote

    I've removed two posts with links to websites other than ebay which identify an individual person who might be the same person as the ebay seller at the centre of this discussion. This is getting into tricky areas and is quite unnecessary. Reporting questionable ebay activity is a valuable service to the community, but please lets keep it to ebay details only please people! "



    as you know, sitting astride both fora, melodeon players do not seem to face so many buy and sell problems on ebay as do concertina buyers: this is why the long melodeon.net thread was so informative.


    re old pics showing up on ebay - usually doubtful sales have been withdrawn by posters or ebay straight after the sharp eyes spot them. So the rest of us do not get a chance to see the actual item (to be able to watch for its reappearence in another place but usually the same form).


    Berlin ramblings were just a little light-hearted seasonal cryptic-xword type digression. Of course no one needs to read if they are not interested, but there are a few I know who will be interested.


    Happy New Year in an hour or 2! :)

  6. Simon (hopefully u are still reading this!) do take up some of the many kind offers to have a try on a box (BUT you did not tell us in which country, town you are) but beware just buying from anyone on ebay. Go see the just-posted-threat under buy and sell about Bay Watch e-spy Berlin etc.


    ...as well as reading carefully Panjandrum Paul Schwarz's warnings at the top of buy and sell.


    Folk here know the reputable, regular dealers and repairers who also sell on ebay and can tell you those and u can watch what comes up from them.



  7. Riveting stuff (No! Not the Wheatstone vs Lachenal debate....that would be in repair and construction. :ph34r: )


    One interesting element is how the original pictures of long-ended ebay items come up through links in the various posts. The melodeonogiochisti have talents we lack in this respect. Makes the whole picture more interesting...... B)


    And there is still ebay action relating to this story, running for the next 7 days (I won't spoil it for you by telling you the plot ...)


    Ah George! Those vodka and schnapps days long gone by. Seems only like y'day, carrying a massive "empty" bass concertina case through Checkpoint Charlie, "reading" a copy of Pravda in Friedrichstrasse underground station and dropping Smiley sPoo(hstic)ks in Potsdam at the Glienicker Brücke to watch them cross to the other side ... :ph34r:

    (Sorry! Couldn't resist setting the scene and atmosphere... but be careful, the Stagi muzikpolizei are probably watching us all)


    I find just two indirect mentions of the seller on cnet. So I assume this 'true story' from the city that never schleeps, is as fresh for some other tina players as it was to me**

    And as u read on do heed Theo's warning about caution about ID card matters (twill become clear).

    Read on! :D

    [The url link is playing tricks - when it opens, clicke on general discussion and look for fifth item down mentioning ebay seller

    OR go to:

    melodeon.net, then click forum on left, and in the search box put the posting id: msg32707

    and that should bring up the first post...]


  8. Hi all,


    Does anyone know where to find one or more of the following 4 compositions for concertina, writen by Giulio Regondi?


    Remembrance – Solo for the Baritone Concertina

    Larghetto - Thema – Variation 1 – Variation 2 – Variation 3 – Variation 4


    A Set of three Waltzes – for the Concertina Solo


    Hexaméron du concertiniste – Six études de concert pour le concertina


    Souvenir d’amitié pour la Concertina-Baritone

    Andante moderato - Adagio – Allegretto


    Thanks for any help,


    Check out here Marien and pmail me....



  9. why are bodhran beaters called brian, because there brain is confused

    Great stuff! Some humour is breaking through. I feared to hear the jungle drums and the boiling pot....


    I also hear some bodhran players have metal inside some of their beaters and I am sure they would be pleased to put the beat into an Anglo player trying to join in with a group of English players and vice versa for that matter.. for a small fee... That said, Anglo and English often find they can accommodate each other - just watch the odd one out, quietly and softly seeking some matching notes and chords! The happy people at the George Inn do it all the time.


    This is all definitely ON topic --


    it is about encouraging beginners to get stuck in and feel at home, so keep up the positive comments folks. That way we will see Simon blossom into an angloish player who keeps perfect time (with his tapping foot hitting a double bass pedal on a parcel string soundbox (and banging a basshran=drum!)) while doing Larry Adler riffs on his neck-harmonica as he plays us Banks and Braes. He will also of course, have an underarm bellows pulsing out a deep and entrancing highland drone, accompanied by those humming along in the audience :P


    Welcome again Simon! And yes, I seem to prefer Scottish to Irish music but the most important thing is a good toon, whatever nationality it is.

  10. Hear Hear! I saw an advert on a stall at a festival that said 'Bodhran, requires no previous musical knowledge'


    Ahh! The Perfectionisti!


    Howard and MSW: we should all remember that Confuce-us say: "For those who would begin, encouragement, from those who have begun, should be the beginning of a great adventure. :P :P


    So rather than 'don't', here is : 'HOW :P :P '


    For those who want to tackle the triangle, you may start with finger tapping on the table along with the beat (unless session-masters have banned it) then foot-tapping along with the beat (unless session-masters have banned it), and you can also turn to Honourable Master Yu Teub Ping to hear and see how the young do it..... see urls below.


    As for the bodhran (or the tambourine. or the Morris dancer's leggy bells) the same principles apply (unless session-masters have banned them too :P ), you can learn the basic beat a lot faster than you might succeed with Jingle bells on a 56 button tina. instrument. I have seen a simple beat on such instruments bring a disordered, out-of-time mixture of session instruments into a semblance of order which helps advancing -players who like to run ahead, and also slow-to-keep up learners.


    And just to be seasonal before the new belt of snow sweeps across the music scene you could indeed start with Jingle Bells, or Good King Con-fucius Pinged Out:


    Beginning Band - Concerto for Triangle


    BTW it's all about fun and here is a triangle supremo at work, whom any beginner should be proud to copy....and have no trouble at all doing so:


    And experts tell us you can learn the bodhran basics with a dish-cloth in the kitchen (u learn something new everyday :ph34r: )



    :lol: :lol:

  11. Silly? maybe its the silly season.

    is it any sillier than saying unisonic concertinas can not play Irish diddley twiddley.


    Nope, that's pretty much a provably false and ridiculous statement also.

    Anything can play diddley Scwot!


    On a lighter note - do, do go and have a go first as earlier recommended - BEFORE you buy.

    As a useless player I can assure you that there are so many ifs and buttons and scales and notes to which different tinas are tuned that you need to find out in the simplest terms what the tina does.


    And the only way is get your hands on one and there will be someone to show you ifyou go to a session or club. You also need to go to a session (take a triangle if you want to join in and feel at home) so you can see all the different types of tinas which people turn up with and watch them play.


    Have a look at the calendar - and if you go somewhere nobble a tina player and tell em u were asking questions about what to start on and they will give you some tips. :P


    In which country and in which part of it do you live?! That may help bring u some assistance.

    If its London then go to the George Inn London Bridge on Jan 4 2000 to 2300 and ask the tina players (and there is occasionally a double bass player turns up)


    or there will probably be some at the Melodeon (all other instruments welcome) Walthamstow squueze on second tuesday in Jan and all months.


    see calendar B)

  12. You said: "Not sure if I understand the reply. Concertina is not an accordion,"


    Some confusion twixt us.... :blink:

    The players shown were all on melodeons which are same push and pull as an Anglo, unlike the keys on a standard keyboard accordion, and they use the shoulder strap (and their thumb against the side of the high treble plate) to hold the high note button side still while pushing and pulling with the bass side. Just thought it might be another solution..... :P

  13. Righteeho & tks...for #Whom the fret tolls#" as it were! :rolleyes:

    Come to think of it, there is a guitarist in Translatlantic Sessions who plays a guitar flat on what looks like a pub table... :P


    That's a steel guitar or a Dobro. Played with a slide, and pretty common in C&W music.




    Dare I say it? It must have got its name after Stalin took up playing it in the Kremlin after moving from Georgia....and all the lackeys shouted "Dobro! Dobro!" even tho he was hopeless.. :lol:


    Nah! "Dobro" means nothing in this context. It's like saying that when Clinton picked up sax, all the lackeys of the White House shouted "Wilcome, wilcome", that's how he got his name.

    HiLLAryious!!! v.good :P

  14. Anyone think this could have a use for tinas?

    comes from hurdy gurdy gear via melodeon.net



    What about 'Slippy Stuff'... Teflon powder suspended in white spirit... created by Neil Brook as a dry lubricant for Hurdy Gurdy keyslides.


    It's a similar problem, so I'd proffer this as a similar solution... and less drastic than pulling the keyboard apart.


    More information here http://www.hurdy-gurdy.org.uk/accessories.html


    (then again... the white spirit might react to pearloid covering... Undecided so be careful...)

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    BTW bulk manufacture of concertina reeds - stumbled on these people who use 5,000 per annum!! Perhaps useful technical details



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