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So glad you liked it Jim - I had the fear our arrangement wouldn't be much appreciated in Morris circles, and I hope that our passion for the material comes through in the recording. Kautilya: My sincere apologies to the good people of Gloucestershire… But tatties on the fire, Medieval - it's a bit early innit? At least old Piet (of wedding dance, peasant dance fame) wouldn’t have known of ’em… The booklet will tell you whether Oates (I think the letter e gives it away) was the butch lad in kilt, putting the shot , or Titus, leader of the popish plot. Cheers, Adrian Hoho! The melody and style creates such an oldy world atmosphere which you do so well! I suspect you might find some interesting stuff in here De Nieuwe Hollandsche Schouwburg, or peraps you know it al ready - many being dances too. INterestingly it also has in it Butter and Peas (in Dutch of course) but I don't know whether it was brought across on the Ferry from England by the Amsterdam weekend coffee=shop visitors of the period 1751!

Aaaaah, the music of the spheres. Brill!

Nov 19 2012 Olympus recorder special amazon uk offer starting at 1700londontime. Amazon Black Friday (which in the UK actually runs for a week and seems to start on a Monday, and will end on Nov 25 inUK is allegedly offereing Olympus LS20m video and sound recorder at a knock down pprice. Dont know how goo dit is but also watch out as the ordinary US price is: $251.51 (158.250 GBP) http://www.amazon.com/Olympus-LS-20M-Video-Audio-Recorder/dp/B004ZKIZWQ?tag=duckduckgo-d-20 but the same undiscounted item is selling on UK Amazon at 225.20gbp (!!!) - 75 QUID more expensive than the USp[rice. and also on the same page at 191GBP http://www.amazon.co.uk/Olympus-LS-20-Digital-Recorder-Movie/dp/B004Y4ZFZI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1353339333&sr=8-2 to see Black Friday specials this weeek you go to UK home page or that Olympus link I jsut gave and hit the black friday specials top right. At time of this post it is London time 15.33 - the deal on the Olympus will start at around 1700 hours http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004Y4ZFZI/ref=gb1h_img_c-1_0267_A1YQEDLSOTPKJM?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=180ZSEW4F3GTF2VZJ5Q1&pf_rd_i=350613011&pf_rd_p=344320267

It is the old problem of whether it is worth the transport cost. Makes your head Spindizzily trying to do the sums. But Our Jodrell Bank Squeezer in Chief may be able to advise distance in miles/kms tho she may not be able to get all the dots on the page. Will this help us track down pictures of those tinas earlier reported in space by some Cnetters - can't find them here just now but I am sure someone else knows where they are. http://www.esa.int/esaSC/SEMXZY81M9H_index_0.html

getting some good reviews on from 'other side' on Melnet http://www.thelockindanceshow.co.uk/ pub:The show, the brainchild of award-winning folk band The Demon Barbers, sees a group of street dancers arrive at an apparently deserted pub. Local rumour has it that The Fighting Cocks is the place to be ‘after hours’ but as the regulars arrive a clash of cultures turns into a dance floor stand-off." http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,10914.msg135048.html#new

Got in for DEMON DAFFODIL - left the page demanding my name and opened another page with youtube.com and it had unknowlingly accepted and gone beyond my regular name. If you want to see how Google tracks you and you have a youtube account, open it and go to manage videos and then open analytics at the top middle of the page. Shows what kind of audience your playing recording performing is attracting and where. Also whether you might be worthwhile 'monetising' your account.

[quoe] Youtube conned me into trying out my account using my real name and then wouldn't let me change it back! I'm subscribed to insightandmind, hence the notifications perhaps. That's the point - there is no sign of you on either side of subscription - and no one at all. Anway - this name things is a very bad idea as it is part of their bigger profiling operations. It really opens up a big front door for ID theft as it is your real name. Interested thieves can already work out u live in a particular area, go to certain pubs (with other step dancing peasants) and what night you are out and that you have some squeezy things worth only a few bob.... I You can also see official position here with in theory options to remove old clips of you playing the tina in the netty; to get some peace and quiet from the parents etc etc: http://youtube-global.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/choosing-how-youre-seen-on-youtube.html And if you paste in to any search engine that "give us your real name grab line" there is also some pretty sharp analysis of connecting phone numbers to names as mentioned above.

and for 7.99 quid,hand bells, tambourine, maraccas from Lidl (there is a batch of different music gear http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_36176.htm I use these (the castanets are new)to lend out to punters at pub sessions (they work a treat at The George) who clearly have the beat but left instruments at home but are desperate to join in. You may find the tambourine a very powerful ally in your bag. John Kirkpatrick borrowed mine to bring timely order to the rabble of tina players he had to cope with (about 40 of them) at a workshop at Swaledale. Appropriately it was the workshop where the demon daffodil showed there were higher forces controlling him too! Watch for its flashing tinarays. Youtube is stopping me getting in at the moment with the 'give us your real name' profiling grab, and I can't be desra to sort it just now as it it is refusing back one, refresh, forward and lose boxes trick. so you will have to find the demon daffodil yourself, although it is already on Cnet. You can also see official position here with in theory options to remove old clips of you playing the tina in the netty; to get some peace and quiet from the parents etc etc: http://youtube-global.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/choosing-how-youre-seen-on-youtube.html And if you paste in the give us your real name grab line there is also some pretty sharp analysis of connecting phone numbers to names as mentioned elsehwere with Tallship (A good name and phone number from the past to keep Yahoo busy might Sh.Holmes c/o Whitehall 1212)

Just lost inputted reply aaaagghhh - here we go again Redruth came to The George and got in some good squeezing of drone notes and chords and instructions to give her new and very stiff tina a good thrashing. She up in Manchester appearing in Pinocchio at Z-Arts at Christmas and back in New Year. http://www.z-arts.org/ over Xmas and any tips, if she has time, to get to some beginner friendly sessions might be welcome (she should have a car) such as Thursdays 20.00 The Mason's Arms, Billinge - 15 miles and 30 minutes straight down the E Lancs.

"On bouge's Chris and Caroline sing a few French songs at The George. A few others know the melodies. So more folk can join in with the lyrics, at Dec session, Caroline has kindly written up two of the songs for printing out and or handing around before. But I cannot find the dots to go with one of them no matter where I look. The song concerned "Tant que j'avais des noisettes - Les amants sont bienvenues Allons au bois" allegedly goes back to 19thc (Album Auvergnat, 1853). (a rather free translation might be: I had plenty of lovers when I had my (hazel)nuts - To the woods! To the woods! To make life simple it is in attached Word file with the other song (which also seems to have some double-entendres) Also a couple of others including L'horloge de grande-mere" grateful for any help on dots. tks thegeorgefrenchsongsscorelyricsNoisettesMontagneHorlogedeGrandmereMonperemari.doc

Tku tku - terrific, and with abc score and midi. I hope Marien's request brings up some more gems like this.

Youtube conned me into trying out my account using my real name and then wouldn't let me change it back! I'm subscribed to insightandmind, hence the notifications perhaps. That's the point - there is no sign of you on either side of subscription - and no one at all. Anway - this name things is a very bad idea as it is part of their bigger profiling operations. It really opens up a big front door for ID theft as it is your real name. Interested thieves can already work out u live in a particular area, go to certain pubs (with other step dancing peasants) and what night you are out and that you have some squeezy things worth only a few bob.... I too have been getting that "put your real name in" = so far I have gone back and forth a page the page is several times and that has cleared it but it is very easy to make a slip the way the page is designed. I suggest you open a new account with your original name plus "1" or "new" to differentiate. and hold oldd utube uploads where they are until there is a more amenable solution to get old name back. The new one should be anonymised as much as possible - this is what I told my friend the other day who lives in Nunavut at the weekend -- he has his own private jet, helicopter (and dogsledge for when he goes shopping in town in Iqaluit.....) gedditt??!! Yahoo is also trying to extract mobile phone numbers 'in case you forget your password" , So far, I find if I go back after log and in and then forward, it clears their attempt to get info. With this type of info and partcularly a real name, then, without too much difficulty it should be possible for some fiddler (crim. not string player), to buy that info on the black and link it to mobile phone accounts, home and work details and of course addresses..... I heard recently that someone was caught selling recordings of customers talking to call centres (and of course giving personal info on their account. Of course if you have an Android (Google) software gizmo, Google.Utube may get even deeper access that way. I am certainly turning off all the location (where u are) software on new Asus Prime TF201 - it is worse than a mobile for triangulation intrusion as the software is also storing shops, banks,ATMs etc which you visit.

I told you it was possibly a squashed down size softee ware thingy somewhere inside your computerbox... but you never listen until it is too late.... Now, do not look in the mirror reflection of your hard drives... it could be catastrophic and we will all have no ABC spag in tomato sauce for tea after school! ps you should remember (on a lighter note, or perhaps more serious) that about six weeks ago I told you that by some strange route I was getting a notification on insightandmind's youtube account about what videos you were watching. I do not recall having "subscribed" you or to you or whatever these things do - and copies of your abctoons,say like from practice ones for EAMT two years ago are on a PC drive and not stored externally... Juat checking youtube and those refs to you have gone. most odd. There are also no subscriptions to anyone on there nor were there are any other 'known' people. see attached youtubescreensubs.doc

That was a nice present from you to us! Delicious, partickler the recorderiste whose sound seemed to float across the room as she almost levitated - take away all the wires, stands, switch out of jeans into velvet, put some mulled wine on [a fire] and some hot tatties and it could have been an intro to a mediaeval snack scene with hopes of a full Breughel lunch round the back! So what does one get in the 24-page book? Scores? (with the fingerdots for tin whistle even? Not desperate for pics. BTW - forgive me (in case u get bopped on the head should you go that way on a rainy day) but the good Dr Forster went to Gloucester (not Glostershire) Glad to see you use the appropriate "bucksome" on your CD in line with the good Samuel Pepys (and Milton of course) with more detail here http://www.wordnik.com/words/bucksome aS FOR your 7Bugge.mp3 full title on the CD, not sure if the original toon was agin someone 'aving their Oats or agin Mr Oates avin' his Popish Plot!

Woomera!What a blast! They may look Victorian too (specially the laid back Strine knickerbockers) and I bet they put a real rocket under the locals. Luv it. But I see no more of em on youtube. Anyone want to have a go at this recent discovery? sound extract middle of page L'horloge de Grand-Mère http://www.starzik.com/mp3/titres/L_horloge_de_grand_mere-607779.html and this should be the words but there are variants (and it is early in the morn......_) Dans la maison de ma grand-mère Parmi les meubles d'autrefois Rêve dans une ombre légère Une horloge au ventre de bois Alors qu'elle sonne les heures Avec son gros timbre d'airin Pour un temps la vieille demeure Paraît s'éveiller soudain Refrain: Je ne connais rien sur terre Non rien de plus beau ma fois Que l'horloge de Grand Mère Quand elle chante pour moi Comme elle a fort bonne mémoire Malgré qu'elle ait deux fois cent ans Elle me raconte l'histoire De la Belle au Château Dormant Et moi regardant la fenêtre Je crois voir tout en l'écoutant Derrière les rideaux paraître Un joli prince charmant Refrain Toutes les fois qu'une heure sonne Si je lui dis cette heure là Sera-t-elle mauvaise ou bonne ? L'horloge me répond tout bas Elle sera ce que toi même Voudra ce que cette heure soit Car l'heure est douce quand on aime Il faut aimer comme moi Refrain Mais pour que le temps des vacances S'éternisat des mois entiers Hier j'ai commis l'imprudence De toucher au grand balancier Et l'horloge de ma Grand-Mère M'a dit alors bien tristement M'arrêter, mais pourquoi donc faire ? On n'arrête pas le temps J'ai compris tout le mystère Car j'ai reconnu la voix La vieille horloge et Grand-Mère N'ont qu'un coeur, il bat pour moi

Marien, I collected together a load of those, some with all or parts (score, lyrics, midis and some youtubes) for Whitby so anything in particular you might fancy, let me know)

I had forgotten how to do a search in Cnet. Use a search engine outside Cnet and you immediately get Haunting Slow Airs - Concertina.net Discussion Forums - Page 3 Concertina.net Discussion Forums: Haunting Slow Airs - Concertina.net Discussion Forums. Jump to content. ... Last Rose of summer (no Ferrier alas) concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=11586&st=36 and first page of that http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=11586&st=0 I cheated a little by remembering Last rose was cited as a slow air. There is lots to make a little collection of what YOU fancy there. Carolan of course is always wonderful to wander through.

Well spotted - but (and I must say I dont know why and how many times one has to keep asking the obvious)... Why did you not take copy the photo/page/item before ebay takes it down - so we can ALL see what you are talking about? You know the collective eye in the sky is best for all of us. Just get the ebay page in front of you and if on PC go: pressandhold alt key and at same press prt sc (print screen) key (top right on my keyboard), paste that it in a Word file and then attach to your post - easy peasy. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: cnetebay.doc

Yes, that's where I foot-tapping meant! There was a classic Honda bike quiz night tonight near Hoddesdon (where a niece lives) so u know where that mixup came from!)

I think what I said was the excellent Tune-O-Tron doesn't support ABC Plus extentions. Paul put the Tune-O-Tron together as a one off utility, told us that it is what it is and no, he can't make it better. Fair enough I say, the Tune-O-Tron is a great workhorse for simple melodies. In this case I needed to use coding the Tune-O-Tron won't accept in order to achieve a specific goal, that of faithfully reproducing the printed book I had before me. The speed of playback with abc has always been controllable, albeit irregularly according to the software using the Q: field. You need to move away from web based converters and learn to use dedicated software in order to create consistency with abc files. You have my email address, do please feel free to ask me about available software! Pete. Thanks again for that repeated offer. I suppose I just want to keep it simple! But I must time my next trip down to Folkestone/Dover for a cuppa of tina cheer and a bowl of ABC soup. It is about three years since I went to Hoddesdon, which perhaps u go to, and I keep trying to pop down again but the late evening starts aways but me off for the return journey into the Smoke....

Down with quicktime! I too really like this Up in the Morning Early - but as you know somewhere back in this thread as I was moaning about Apple not letting me have control of speed unless I pay them for quicktime pro, which meant that many of the abcs here replayed massively too fast for my wee brain, and in most cases I could not even recognise the tune. And Tallship was saying not to use tuneotron anwyay, as not being up to it . SO I have removed quicktime completely off my machine (all 75MB of it.) I now put abc into tuneotron, (as I always used to) press midi after submit, and it offers me save file instead of starting up straightaway. I then find that file in downloads and I have to "open containing folder" (won't "open: direct, but jumps into WindowsMoviemaker telling me it is the wrong format...but I know this from before). From inside the folder and then I can open and play the file with windows media player and within that I can slow speed down (fast normal slow). I am listening now at slow, it is a bit over slow but after 20 mins or more it must be penetrating my brain...... But for more refined speed I also managed to copy and paste the ABC into ABCExplorer and this time I got it to work and hence I have been able to get it to a speed which sounds "good" to me, so I can now more easily try to learn to play it. It also means, having earlier giving up on many of them, I will go back in and paste ABC and have another listen and see what other gems I can find. I also like to play tunes back as machine-gun sound, not just whistle! So thanks again Pete for the valiant effort on all this. tallship' said: timestamp='1351186362' post='140804'] I rather like this one! X:17 T:Up in the Morning Early C:arr. Carlo Minasi M:6/8 L:1/8 B:Chappell's One Hundred Scotch Melodies B:Arranged for the Concertina by Carlo Minasi Q:3/8=100 Z:Peter Dunk 2012. K:Gm "Moderato" !p!C|G2 A B2 c|(d>=ef) F2 F|\ (G>AB/c/) d>cB/A/|!diminuendo(!(G3 d2)!diminuendo)! !mf!D| G2 [A^F] [b2G2][cA]|([dB]>=ef) F2 F|\ (G>AB/c/) d>cB/A/|!diminuendo(!(G3 [d2B2G2])!diminuendo)!|| B|([cGE]>cB) [b2G2D2] B|([cGE]>dc) [c2A2F2] [cA]|\ ([DB]>[ec][fd]) ([ge]>[fd][ec])|([d3B3] f2) !mf!f| ([bFD]>c[bFD]) [b2G2E] B|([cAF]df) H[g2e2B2]([f/A/]e/)|\ ([dB]>cB) [AEC]>G[^FC]|!diminuendo(!([G3B,3] d2)!diminuendo)!||

I was not assuming "a BBC like" scenario - I thought few people would be aware of the data; the fact that BBC Enterprises is making so much money on resales, and at the same time BBC main is STILL paying such poor rates is the issue. These BBC rates have been under criticism for quite some time - those were drama rates and they hardly make for a good living for the writers who, remember, are not staff and who do not get anything like the hourly rate of BBC staff over 220 working days a year, nor holidays, sick pay, nor cars....... As for WGBH I can see overall operational monies are down 2010-2011 but down from what!? I know the market to some extent, but I did not realise how much they were pulling in in across all revenue and grants, donation streams. 2010-11 US 187 million against year before's US206 million total components and net assets was just touching 300 million against previous 335 million. http://www.wgbh.org/UserFiles/File/Annual_Report/AR_2011_.org_1.pdf I don't think this is hand to mouth for those working inside the operation. It just came to light recently that the ceo of of the main UK writers' royalty collecting society (this collects pennies/money due to authors from photocopying licenses in colleges, hospitals, etc, of their books and some articles in journals) was being paid more than the UK Prime Minister: MP and PM -- two salaries(and that does not include running costs). The colllecting society ceo was paid a staggering GBP 192,000 (one hundred and ninety two thousand sterling) per annum in 2010-2011. This is a body owned by its writer members.. ... the elected chair-director it turns out was being paid around 45k (and there are other paid directors), there are 37 staff with an annual salary bill of £1.7 million – an average of £46,000 per employee. And,musicians apart for the moment, how much do you think authors earn when compared with their publishers (same sort of scenario)? These figures are probably comparatively worse now but I don't have time to dig out more recent. There are some comments too on American writers. http://www.darkecho.com/darkecho/files/sellfarm.html And these are the people whose copyrighted work was stolen by Google, scanned, put up on Google Books in anticipation that Google could then get a cut on sales (both print and eversions). At least Judge Chin, now of the US Supreme Court, refused to let them get away with it. I am not trying to score points here. I am simply suggesting that you need to look after your creative rights because each time you give away a little of yours, you also give away part of other people's. and of course, like BBC Enterprises, WGBH makes a few bob on worldwide showings such as Sherlock Hartswood Films produced the series for the BBC and co-produced it with WGBH Boston for its Masterpiece anthology series. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_(TV_series)

There's a lot of "mobile" sofware around at the moment for people who are following fora on mobile phone and other small screens. U don't suppose it thinks cnet should be running in mobile? Wassnt there something from Paul about a mobile access. I am having a dreadful time on squashed down "mobile" youtube page etc on my Asus Prime TF201 - as an Android - and the mobile Firefox is not much better with half the commands out of ight -- software thinks it is on a small screen. but the screen is 10inch You can usually force the desktop version, if you prefer it. Chrome has a Request desktop version option, and FF has Phony plugin, for more permanent identity setting. Ta - I'll have a go with the FF - not into Chrome (though more and more people I know are using it to track down their 'lifted' photographs across the Web. It is a way to check if the big boys (u know Fox and co) have not been paying for repeat uses. I think I mentioned some time back one snapper I know generated 27k (yes 27thousand gBP) from a couple of nights searching the Web and billing lifters such as County Councils, private health providers whose paid staff had merrily been lifting his health/medical photographs and not paying.

Frank, I sent you an email, but I'll let it be known here as well--I received the "Flee as a Bird" CD you sent me some days ago and have been enjoying it since. Great playing, great sound. Thanks! And congrats on the national attention. How much are they paying you for how many uses across how many stations across how many days.... If they get a salary and are a commercial station taking paid ads, you should get a payment and repeat payments. And don't allow em to use it if they say you will get exposure not payment - bsheet. you can peform it naked and you can get exposure on youtube.......and you will choose which bits you show (musically)! There is no music in here and you will see how bad the rates are anyway - you should go for more than thiss BBC Rates | Society of Authors - Protecting the rights and ... World Service Radio (English)/BBC Digital Radio Originations. The rates for R4Extra originations are currently under review. Plays/Prose (per min): £8.83; Poetry (per 1/2 min): £8.83; Prose for Dramatisation (per min): £6.87; Prose translation (per min): £5.88; societyofauthors.org/bbc-rates http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-19194824 Ask them what their regular rate is and then double it - they obviously want it. Then make sure you restrict what the usage is - never,never, ever allow license in perpetuity in any medium; and all usages have to be reported. Oh for pities sake, you do know what Singout magazine is, don't you? Hint, it is not owned by Rupert Murdoch - or the BBC. See: Singout Don. No idea who they are. All you had to say is you think they are too small for this to apply, but it does NOT negate the principle, or someone trying to be helpful. However, from your link, I now see they are doing quite nicely judging by the advertising rates they charge. $2000 for a colour back cover. http://www.singout.org/magadspecs.html Be interesting to know the economics of their national radio station too. I was discussing recently with some one how National Geographic used to pay what seemed quite a hefty fee (perhaps ten thousands US) for recordings from remote field sites (this was in the Arctic). But the one-off fee was dwarfed by the hundreds of thousands of dollars which NG made when it re-sold the recordings to local radio stations across the US. It kept the rights and the radio money. Please don't knock other's desires to safeguard your and other's musical rights. This issue affects everyone, both beginners and those about to kick the bucket. Free for the starving and starting off, but if someone is going to make a buck or two out of your efforts then that is different. If an operation is paying those who run it for their time (non-profit does not mean they work for free) and if they are making a living from it then you deserve a few bucks too. Pax concertinibus

There's a lot of "mobile" sofware around at the moment for people who are following fora on mobile phone and other small screens. U don't suppose it thinks cnet should be running in mobile? Wassnt there something from Paul about a mobile access. I am having a dreadful time on squashed down "mobile" youtube page etc on my Asus Prime TF201 - as an Android - and the mobile Firefox is not much better with half the commands out of ight -- software thinks it is on a small screen. but the screen is 10inch