Kautilya

Managed the squeeze chord and the yodels but not the woof woof of what are appently mice! tks again Leo

Sparky-ling white! Much enjoyed.... now how much of it will work on a 20 button...........

Does it still come at $3.50 with the American Agriculturist.Good price and need info as just about to prune my grape vines.

Nice, but they are 40 to 50 quid (against 9.99 for when Aldi brings out next offer. (I already have five Aldi ones..........and I know they also accomodate small melodeons such as Preciosa, Liliput, Pokerwork)and for the instrumentalists I know someone whose Aldi one accomodates 20b Lachenal,one 4xKreuzwender,seven full size, boxed, tremolo harmon., two medium (g & c) Lee Oscar type harps, boxed 12 harp set) one doublesided (G and C)medium harmon. Highlander A/D, triangle, hand cymbal, seven tiny to big screwdrivers, two small and one large pliers, one pin extractor,cleaning cloth,foot square glove leather piece for bellows patching,sellotape, safety pins, glue, mini-ocarina, D tin whistle, sweets,lighter,mini recorder, mini speaker, mini-player, spare AAA batteries, e-tuner and a map and mini torch to locate the items!At a push Ihave seen a palm psaltery bungee'd over the top. And they don't even use the right and left outside net 'pockets'. Perhaps that could work for (illicit)dot music on paper as seen in this one I stumbled on --I reckon a third bigger than the Aldino shoulder strap or carrying handles, heavier too and without a waterproof rubber bottom for wet carparks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EgNXka2zW0

View number of different types of instruments that turn up. View late nights mean some mornings are v late starts View fact there are some really whiz players of different instru's. View fact whizzes have been seen in the past tootling on their own am and afternoon in quiet rooms in the Bull and on the campsite. View past whisperings that the weaker/beginner players would love to have some tips from the whizzes: May be good to have some informal,laidback, little freebie work-tip-shops, offered 'voluntarily' and not overorganised, by whizzes when things look slack Or maybe a little breakaway in another room from any main sessions. Could be done by word of Happy Mouth, or posting an offer of help on a board???? Could be in the Bull or around the campsite? Deffo the campsite for lovers of bagpipes such as myself Would also boost the quality action at the big evening sessions where the whizzes lead with the same toons, songs and tips they offered at the work-tip-shops :rolleyes:

Is DeCoverly dead? email me new one direct. See yr pmail in a minute here (file has locked up so have to crash machine and reload) Train from Ipswich to Lpool St will be less than the petrol and at mo only 19.50 quid return (a third off that if u get a senior railcard) and just over an hour - road is 180m return trip and 2hrs+oneway. Bus Lpool to LBridge 14 min max and easier to organise your late dropoff at Lpool St as someone (if I am not there) can divert 10 minutes in their vehicule...Put yr gear in shopping trolley.

Let's go back to the original question. A print for the wall or a t-shirt would fall under fair use, go ahead. It would be the same as translating something of mine to share with your buddy in Russia. Cool. Alan yes - let's keep it cool and right! Would still love to know what date and publisher of your edition Shelly please? Perhaps it is rare as so far cannot find that cover anywhere. Further if it is out of copyright you could give us all free t-shirts out of the profits you make by graphic-ing in a different instrument for each market - tina, (melodeon already there)accordion, drum...... This edition below sounds really valuable: look at the edition date and the last three words! Hudson City Books via United States Softcover, ISBN 0192823566 Publisher: Oxford University Press, USA (1995), 1995 Inscribed by Loving on title page. Underling in introduction, no other markings. ; Oxford World's Classics; 388 pages; Signed by Author. McTeague A Story of San Francisco Book is written in English Book is signed :rolleyes: ...........!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac=sl&st=sl&ref=bf_s2_a1_t1_1&qi=j96pdN5qYAiLutU0HjrcvcbR8JI_2649611128_1:3:192&bq=author%3Dfrank%253B%2520%28jerome%2520loving%2520norris%26title%3Dmcteague btw, fair use and fair dealing differ between US and UK = just to complicate matters! This is why Google has been warned off by Judge Denny Chin for copying complete in-copyright books without permission from the authors and often putting far more than a snippet of some of those books on googlebooks site..... it wants to get a global cut of book sales through its search engine and would surely get at least click-through revenues from booksellers it lists on its bookpages.......... http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/mar/23/google-books-settlement-ruling It would be interesting to know if Google asked permission from Mike/publisher to put the cover of his Book (Absolute Beginners' Concertina) on Google Books. It may help his sales but I see one can cut and paste the cover image. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=z3vnAAAACAAJ&dq=concertina+for+beginners&hl=en&sa=X&ei=05leT56rC4rN0QXchP2nBw&redir_esc=y And you do not need Google to find it - which they say is their aim to bring the world to illumination through googlebooks... just use non-tracking, non-profiling, non-data id stealing duckduckgo.com and search for generic: concertina for beginners and you get:CNET of course, Hurrah ! The home of free and independent musical free-reading thort and comradeship! and Bramich of course. http://duckduckgo.com/?q=concertina+for+beginners Note the 'orphan works' para in this one ( I think Chin may have changed that review April date to July....) http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/jacketcopy/2011/03/rejected-google-ebooks-what-happened-whats-next.html and so to bed

I also have been known to fish for trout without a licence (and using worms, the ultimate sin. Sadly, I don't have access to dynamite.) I actively subvert the excise system by routinely inviting people to do me discounts for 'cash and no paperwork'. I often cross the road within a few yards of a pedestrian crossing without using the crossing (that's illegal over here). My old cars and bikes are usually mechanically deficient in some minor way that puts them outside the law too. You see I just LOOK respectable. Seriously; my point is that, whatever the law says, morally I don't think anyone would really be losing out, and after that it's just a question of whether a) you get caught and whether anyone cares enough to take action if you actually are caught. Having asked myself those questions I'd risk it if I actually liked the awful thing. For me this is the exact opposite situation to the 'Benjamin's Book' discussion where there's nothing legally to stop the tunes being put out but it seems to me extremely wrong to so do, at least for a year or two. Editted to add; sorry leo, went and answered the door half way through this and ended up 'posting across you'. Redrawing it is the best route of course. Out with the squared paper then you can sell a million of them. Or try... This is hopefully the last time I rise to the bait :) on what is a serioous issue for all those on this forum who write their own music and lyrics and may put out their own covers on books and CDs to make a few bob to fund their hobby and some case to make a living and whichh is part of their pension in later life. The fact is anyone can write out the tunes on paper from a borrowed (I am sure you would not nick one Dirge) copy of the 20 quid book. BUT - the visual graphic notation displayed through the work of the recent creators of that 20 quid book is their copyright, copyright, copyright until the appropriate years after their death(s). If they wanted you to have it for free they would give it away. It is illegal to reproduce their visual work* whether in the privacy of your own home without permission or even worse to start copying it for groups whether children at school or New Zealanders at play It is good that Shelly asked the question. * Without digging it out there are differing US/UK regulations concerning copyright on notation reproduction. Artist(e)s composers, designers, lyricists have a right to earn a living without being ripped off - think what Salieri did to Mozart! That is why there is a Berne convention and why many authors and writers fear they are going to be very badly hit if money-making high-fee charging universities and colleges and private academies are no longer going to have to pay an annual licence to use copyright materials for free under proposals under dispute at the moment. I fear to read a headline which says Eminent Baritone concertina player arrested: seen using mini camera on end of fishing rod pushed through bookshop letterbox to lift music score of the top-hit Dirge Fantastic Toons. He was apprehended after jay-running across the road and trying to drive away in an MG but its rear wheel fell off.... Berne convention diy: http://www.copyrightauthority.com/song-copyright.htm

Dirge - naughty naughty . That very dodgy advice would not protect Shelly from action, if someone is still due payment on the rights. Graphics (monies due from such as book covers and photos and paintings) are actively collected by DACS (see earlier URL). Even if the artist/photographer is not credited (often inside a dust jacket or on back of a paperback) either they are or the publisher to whom they might have sold all rights originally,still come under copyright periods. If it were in copyright and Shelly then put a photo, of the picture on the sitting room wall, up on a website it can be found. Here's how http://www.iphotocourse.com/the-only-tool-you-need-to-find-your-stolen-pictures-how-to-protect-yourself-from-photo-theft/ Same with an artist/company doing a one-off painting based on a photo taken by a well-known photographer - need to ask permission and if the painter intends to make money on the back of the well-known photo/photographer then they ort to pay! Number of cases out there that I know of which have turned out to be very expensive for the 'lifter'. And here's a little moral story (with permission!) which may help one understand why another man's mess of potage ain't for throwing in your bin...! And he really does sue! http://www.epuk.org/The-Curve/491/enforcing-your-copyright Hey - see what Wiki says about author Norris "Frank Norris's work often includes depictions of suffering caused by corrupt and greedy turn-of-the-century corporate monopolies."... Sounds like he would have supported the worker getting the fruits of their labour.

Might be hard. This edition was published more than 50 years ago. Yes you should ask permission = some decrepit pensioner artist may need money to pay his soaring gas bill/ Treat copyright like someone stealing your change from a 20 dollar bill after you buy a 10 dollar book - you would complain, rightly so... ....... start here:http://www.dacs.org.uk/pdfs/factsheet_29.pdf UNLESS the cover is now out of copyright. How much "more than 50 years" old is that edition with that cover? It was first published it seems (McTeague is a novel by Frank Norris,in 1899 so the novel is out of copyright as he ruptured his bellows in 1902 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Norris. Now find the first edition with that specific cover to work oout the copyright. What you have may simply be a reprint which does not alter the original copyright dates afain.But the cover may also be new on the reprint and so you should date from there. Get searching! We really ought to get all this copyright stuff in one place as there is plenty of info scattered around the site. http://ebooks.gutenberg.us/WorldeBookLibrary.com/mcteague.htm (no cover)

Last time there were four great fiddling birds at sessions including a dots only uni student fiddler who started to break the ear sound barrier and it would be great to have more fiddlers (both male and female). Any tina players who scrape too would be lovely and if they could alert the fiddling sites that would be wonderful. There were also good singalong sessions (with instruments,even maraccas for those Latam toons we sang, apart from Scottish, English, French, Italian songs)so singers can have a good time even if you don't play. Other instruments present(please tip off your own fora) were zither, mandolin, banjo, guitar, cello, sax, bodhran, whistles, harmonica, swanee, clarinet.....etc. One young man also had a home made box fiddle and double bass which he played far too well! For non-tenters There also seems to be a very reasonable family room deal at the Bull with prices by the room not person (from 180 quid for three nights)and some rooms have 3, 4, 5, and one with 6 beds. Add breakfast per person per day at five quid. Tricky to make these come up on the online booking system but give em a ring http://www.bullbayhotel.co.uk/ There is swimming in the tiny, protected sloping sandy shore and rocky harbour 50 yards from the hotel; and some muscial kayakers did a trip around the bay in glorious sunshine, managing to avoid the half day fishing trip boats.

"interdental brushes" you should find right diameter - I assume this has rounded end -- rotten photo. (Alas manufacturers started making handle end like paddle unfortunately) Cut off round end to appropriate length and glue (used waterbased pva fore easy removal)to wooden lever...bingo http://www.amazon.com/EASY-BRUSH-DENTEK-Size-8/dp/B001AIU6RI/ref=sr_1_27?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1331240368&sr=1-27

The vegetable/diesel oil fraternity notify each other when they are travelling up and down UK in case someone needs an item picking up and delivering safely - or storing while someone has time to come and collect and sometimes they are relayed from person to person and it works wonderfully. They help each other with everything from TVs to twin prams........ Some on cnet sometimes offer to pop over to an ebay seller to test a potential purchase, or like Chris prepared to look at an auction preview but foiled by snowdrifts. So we are perhaps already alert to the possibilities. It might be worth thinking about the relay system here. I have had box from Martyn White hand carried to me by someone from London who happened to be visiting him -- that was serendipity of course. It can avoid the cost and worries of the post and the couriers. Might also work for US tho distances can be so great. So - From time to time I travel up and down from Kings Cross via M1/M6 A50 Warrington, Preston and sometimes up to Ambleside and Langdales and less often to North Wales via Brum(M54 and A5 or Liverpool via tunnel/or Widnes Bridge then bypass Chester for A55 Coast Rd and or A5 Bethesda/Bangor/Anglesey ... if anyone needs... :) here's how veggie cross country relay operates: http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=68

Never mind the pills - you of all people should know better - keep to practising only on i-phone and i-pad applications offered by a certain YOU know who! And it won't cost YOU anything Of course your affliction could be because you are spending so much effort developing new apps that you are overdosing by digesting too many (baking) Apples and it is transferred pain from your tummy! BTW, as usual Al is fibbing and being modest - he knows two things about cars: I can confirm, as witness (and tutor), that he has also learnt how to jam some folded cardboard between the battery and battery frame on his car so that the battery no longer slides around as he drives, while previously it was loosening the terminal connectors and creating starting difficulties! He is such an Old Card!

LIDL have joined the padded concertina bag market but alas at twice the price (19.99)of ALDI they probably won't be squeezing the competition. http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg//lidl_uk/hs.xsl/offerdate.htm?offerdate=29094&ar2= last year in August at ALDI: http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=13133&st=0&p=127212&hl=aldi&fromsearch=1entry127212 so m

Err. That pdf is NOT in C. The key signature is changed to C, but the notes are still where they would be on the staff in E. Here's the abc for that three part version in C X:1 T:Linden Lea M:3/4 K:C %Transposed from E L:1/8 V:1 clef=treble name="Soprano 1" sname="S1" V:2 clef=treble name="Soprano 2" sname="S2" V:3 clef=f name="Bass" sname="B" [V:1]=G,CD|E2 =G2 AG|F2 E2 DC|A,C C2 D2| w: 1.~With-in the wood-lands flow-ery glad-ed by the oak trees mos-sy w: 2.~When leaves that late-ly were a spring-ing now do fade with-in the w: 3.~Let oth-er folk make mon-ey fast-er in the air of dark roomed [V:2]EEB,|C2 E2 FE|D2 C2 B,A,|F,F, =G,2 G,2| w: 1.~With-in the wood-lands flow-ery glad-ed by the oak trees mos-sy w: 2.~When leaves that late-ly were a spring-ing now do fade with-in the w: 3.~Let oth-er folk make mon-ey fast-er in the air of dark roomed [V:3]=ggf|e2 c2 cc|B2 c2 =GA|cc e2 f2| w: 1.~With-in the wood-lands flow-ery glad-ed by the oak trees mos-sy w: 2.~When leaves that late-ly were a spring-ing now do fade with-in the w: 3.~Let oth-er folk make mon-ey fast-er in the air of dark roomed % [V:1]C3 =G,CD|E2 =G2 AG|F2 E2 A,B,|CD E2 D2| w: moot The shin-ing grass blades timb-er shad-ed now do quiv-er un-der w: copse And paint-ed birds do hush their sing-ing high up-on the timb-er w: towns I do not dread a peev-ish mast-er though no man may heed my [V:2]=G,3 EEB,|C2 E2 FE|D2 C2 CB,|A,A, A,2 A,2| w: moot The shin-ing grass blades timb-er shad-ed now do quiv-er un-der w: copse And paint-ed birds do hush their sing-ing high up-on the timb-er w: towns I do not dread a peev-ish mast-er though no man may heed my [V:3]e3 =ggf|e2 c2 cc|B2 c2 cd|ef =g2 g2| w: moot The shin-ing grass blades timb-er shad-ed now do quiv-er un-der w: copse And paint-ed birds do hush their sing-ing high up-on the timb-er w: towns I do not dread a peev-ish mast-er though no man may heed my % [V:1]D3 D=GE|A3 =GEC|D3 D=GE|A3 =GFE| w: foot And birds do whist-le ov-er head and wat-er's bubb-ling in it's w: tops And brown leaved fruit is turn-ing red in cloud-less sun-shine ov-er w: frowns For I be free to go ab-road or take ag-ain my home-ward [V:2]B,3 =G,B,C|C3 CC=G,|B,3 =G,B,C|C3 CCC| w: foot And birds do whist-le ov-er head and wat-er's bubb-ling in it's w: tops And brown leaved fruit is turn-ing red in cloud-less sun-shine ov-er w: frowns For I be free to go ab-road or take ag-ain my home-ward [V:3]=g3 gge|f3 fff|=g3 gge|f3 fff| w: foot And birds do whist-le ov-er head and wat-er's bubb-ling in it's w: tops And brown leaved fruit is turn-ing red in cloud-less sun-shine ov-er w: frowns For I be free to go ab-road or take ag-ain my home-ward % [V:1]D3 =G,CD|E3 =GAG|FE D2 C2|A,C C2 D2|C3 w: bed And there for me the ap-ple tree do lean down low in Lin-den Lea w: head With fruit for me the ap-ple tree do lean down low in Lin-den Lea w: road To where for me the ap-ple tree do lean down low in Lin-den Lea [V:2]B,3 EEB,|C3 EFE|DC =G,2 A,2|F,F, F,2 =G,2|=G,3 w: bed And there for me the ap-ple tree do lean down low in Lin-den Lea w: head With fruit for me the ap-ple tree do lean down low in Lin-den Lea w: road To where for me the ap-ple tree do lean down low in Lin-den Lea [V:3]=g3 ggf|e3 cdc|Bc d2 e2|ff f2 f2|e3 w: bed And there for me the ap-ple tree do lean down low in Lin-den Lea w: head With fruit for me the ap-ple tree do lean down low in Lin-den Lea w: road To where for me the ap-ple tree do lean down low in Lin-den Lea Tks! Naughty notes! It'll be the scalpel not the scissors I use to cut and paste you next time!

Here's a piano arrangement in G http://imslp.org/wiki/Linden_Lea_(Vaughan_Williams,_Ralph) The only freebie I can find (my husband has a lot of classical sheet music sites bookmarked) The little orchestra that he plays in does a nice arrangement of this but I think it may be in a flat key (they like to make it easy for the brass!) Chris There's a midi here but not sure of key or if you could 'reverse' it to get an abc and then change the key there..... http://www.classicalmidi.co.uk/vaughan.htm Whoops - looks like I found the works here with abc(to change key) and midi and lyrics and score. Looking forward to hearing you! http://www.folkinfo.org/songs/displaysong.php?songid=589 Found a three-voice abc from Durham uni folksoc, Mike, so here's the score attached, abc file changed to C (from their key of E) in tuneotron but for some reason the midi won't open... maybe u can extract midi from the abc on their site, and there's a couple of other toons there which may be of interest. http://www.dur.ac.uk/folk.soc/singing.php

Here's a piano arrangement in G http://imslp.org/wiki/Linden_Lea_(Vaughan_Williams,_Ralph) The only freebie I can find (my husband has a lot of classical sheet music sites bookmarked) The little orchestra that he plays in does a nice arrangement of this but I think it may be in a flat key (they like to make it easy for the brass!) Chris There's a midi here but not sure of key or if you could 'reverse' it to get an abc and then change the key there..... http://www.classicalmidi.co.uk/vaughan.htm Whoops - looks like I found the works here with abc(to change key) and midi and lyrics and score. Looking forward to hearing you! http://www.folkinfo.org/songs/displaysong.php?songid=589

Aha ... I'll counter that with a spiritual sprint to The Angel Islington ... given the effect of the Crowley rules the neutralising effect may be required. Aaggh,,uggh,,iiigggh – your powers have Quilp-ed me! Some winged shadow swept over bearing an Olympic Torch, ripped out my Lem-drip, switched my bottle to CO2 and is closing down the flue of my bellowsing chest. Through the fog of Angela Markelt’s Greek apple fritter stand (buy one get none free)I have visions of Ron my Keyman smirking at the next stall as he fashions a devil’s head key (BTW he does a v. cheap lock and chain to secure my tinas - just opposite Iceland). I am done for, out of play, unmoving from my brethdead. Is that the ‘Battle of the Somme’ I hear echoing, a 56-gun Dirge rehearsing for a cremation at Monument? Alas, I fear there will be no quantitative easing for me at Bank, so I have to abandon my Black Cab Wheel of Life.... ‘Cabbie! Oi, cabbie! Carry me to Monument pleeease!’ 'Sorry guv, London’s Burning; Monument’s orf for ghosts………..' 'Byeeee……...(thermometer at 104..)

Perhaps a move to Kensal Green might just raise a ghost or two from the cemetery there with all its notable residents, including Wilkie Collins, who included a concertina player in his most famous book, "The Woman in White". Great but might I ask if u could clarify whether you were bringing Sailors' Navel Engagement rools back into play through that cemetery link because one might want to switch to the canal water taxi to pick up the return leg of the SPCC Spooky Cruise from KX/StPan to Kensal cemetery. You clearly knew that Catacomb B holds the remains of Sir Nesbitt Josiah Willoughby CB KCH, Admiral of the White (1777-1849). Was he the paramour of your Lady in White? We seems to be straying back into Double-Bluff Playtex agent territory. Seems he may have been Nelson's "step-son", but other Nisbetts may have had a different meaning for the word "Totty" "[NISBETT, Ann. c. 1783.] The trial of Mrs. Ann Nisbett, wife of Walter Nisbett, Esq; of Grafton Street, Berkeley Square, and of Kirkby, in the County of York, for committing adultery with Thomas Totty, Esq; (a Captain in the Navy, and Commander of His Majesty's Ship The Sphinx) at Doctors Commons, London. London, 91pp. [bL, NLS] Although a cultural, indeed artistic diversion, from KX by Scottish Taxi, (The Saturday night 4.20 Virgin Cattle Truck to Inverness via Glasgie) would add some useful extra mileage to one's total. Alas, allegedly there is no connection with the Glaswegian artiste B. Nesbit, RA.

There is one on ebay now, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300657375702 Not there now! Maybe too small but if you want real portable playability (one handed of course) with no repair work/bills you could check around Southall/Leicester. These are the standard workhorses for Indian musicians who do concerts,betrothals, weddings, ghazal evenings etc http://www.jas-musicals.com/sectrad/Harmonium-cases.asp Leicester http://www.sonarupa.co.uk/default_inner.asp?pflag=instrument&curr=0 Someone here's one prepared earlier brings his to The George Inn occasionally.

Which of course is ironic given that under Crowley's rules if you can provide firm evidence of the sighting of a ghost you automatically progress to within two moves of MC! Doubly ironic in that, if we are to believe him, Kautilya is now incorporeal ... and I would hazard a guess cannot possibly prove a sighting of himself. Well here's my Arsenal Lead Bellyfull's funeral song, reaching out through the Galaxy in search of you - do you see me in YOUR dreams or do I just hear an ironic echo: "In your dreams!") So where to now? It's all Relative to Chris' E=MC Meanwhile, Woody is still in the backup bunker working on a melody for a song with the the provisional title "A spectre is haunting Europe; the spectre of Concertinaism" http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=goodnight+Irene&docid=1543394361385&mid=5DBFA9FF4B561FD7142A5DBFA9FF4B561FD7142A&FORM=VIRE1

Ah, but Kautilya, in his first posting Woody made it clear that the Crowleyan subset of the rules was being used ... so the very Devil is in the detail. If you don't pay attention to the rules therein you're unlikely to stand the ghost of a chance of being in with one (ie a chance). Good hunting! And on that note, from Highgate to it's neighbour (previously named Highgate itself ... so the logic would appear inevitable) ... the Archway to the next dimension .... of the game? Sorry, already incorporeally ahead of you - left Woody in Marx's bunker and moved into the next dimension by jumping off Archway's Suicide Bridge and ended up falling on my Arsenal,

Dulcimore - The leaving of Liverpool Good find! tks Leo.