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  1. Hi Alan,


    As a general rule, you'd never use the same finger for two consecutive notes if the are on different buttons.

    In that case I would move your hand down and do the A, on the draw with your little finger and the B, on the draw with your ring finger and the D on the draw with your middle finger.


    Of course, this would depend on the notes before and after the sequence but you can always make some slight melodic changes to make tunes more "concertina friendly".


    If you're interested, I do online skype lessons which you might find helpful.

    You can see the details on the forum under the teaching and learning section.

    Good luck with it!



  2. Hi Alan,


    You should also have a low A on the inside row (G row) at the very bottom on the draw (some concertinas have this note as another D). When playing these tunes that is the A I use and I also use the low B on the middle (C row) just below D on the draw also. I don't use the D A or B on the push in these tunes.

    I hope that helps somewhat.


    All the best,


  3. Hi Helen,

    I'm starting a new 10-week term of lessons in the coming weeks. I've just added the info on the forum. If it's something you might be interested in then you can PM me here or email me at eganalan@gmail.com



  4. Hi All,

    I'm about to start another 10-week term of 1-2-1 skype lessons.

    I only have 3 slots left at this stage so it's on a first come first served basis. These classes cater for all abilities of players, from beginner to advanced players who want to add something extra to their playing.

    For those of you that don't know me, I've been playing concertina from a young age and have won multiple All-Ireland's. I've been teaching for over 15 years and I've taught many people that have gone on to win All-Ireland's. I've also adjudicated Fleadhs at All-Ireland level.

    I've attached a short mp3 of me playing.

    If you've any questions you can PM here or email me at eganalan@gmail.com.




    Rakish Paddy short.mp3

  5. Hi folks,


    Unfortunately I need to sell my concertina. It has been my main concertina for a good few years now and has served me well.


    This instrument is one of the earlier models and as such has a beautiful tone you won't find on the newer instruments. These are very hard instruments to find. A new Suttner with the same specs is €5000 with a four year waiting list but these are slightly different instruments compared to the earlier models. It's an airtight instrument with very fast action and has been well played and looked after over the years. This would be a perfect instrument for an intermediate to advanced player.


    Get in touch if you want more info.







  6. You are welcome Alan and thanks to Ken and Michael for clarifying the keys for me. I can now refer to my C/G concertina as being played in the key of D.


    It is nice to learn something new this late in the year.




    It must be an Irish thing, C/G is referred to as D, C#/G# is Eb, Bb/F is C. The key is usally the note you get when you play D button on the concertina. (middle row, middle button, left hand on a standard 30 key concertina)

  7. Wouldn't Eb translate to a D#. By Eb do you mean the middle row (Eb/Bflat) or the bottom row as in Ab/Eb? I'm not too sure what keys a person would be getting in they purchased this from you.


    It would be helpful to you as the seller and to the potential buyers of c.net or ebay to have a much better and more accurate description if you are serious about selling this.




    Thanks Steve,


    As I said I want her to go to a good home where she will be played. So any "potential buyers" should know what I was talking about. ;)



  8. Hi all,


    I'm afraid that as a poor student I have no option but to sell my beloved wheatsone. She is number 24091 and is a top class concertina. One of the best wheatstones I have played. She has a beautiful sweet tone and very responsive action. She is in Eb so C#/G#. I would much rather sell my suttner but I need it for teaching in D. :( This is a great concertina and I really want her to go to a good home where she will be played and not just seen of as an investment. This is why I am letting ye know here before hitting ebay.


    I have pics and some sound files. Email me for more info etc... eganalan@gmail.com

  9. Hi jlfinkels,


    Thanks for the handy tips! As of last week I have started the lessons and there have been no problems. Some of the lessons have been to the US and they may aswell be in the next room.


    Only thing I have noticed with Skype, some times the connection can break up it you are using a wireless connection, it seems to work alot better with a wired connection.


    Due to the amount of interest I don't have many places left between now and Christmas and who I have been teaching seem pleased so far with everything.


    Thanks again,


  10. The one thing that makes me smirk is the non-stop talk about triplets, rolls, cranes and what not. As though if you master them, you'll become a master player of ITM. NO! It's all about intonation, showing off the melody, the rhythm - everything that is as crucial to any player in any style.

    And it seems to me that the only thing dividing ITM from "art" is the bag of tricks, something of doubtful value to me.


    You really don’t get ITM and that is the problem.


    No point in continuing a discussion with you Misha.


    All the Best.

  11. I am not saying one is easier or more complex than the other. Why can't you accept that both are complex and the complexity or expressiveness depends on the musician not the instrument?


    Skins- you are making my brain hurt -- why have you debated this for an entire page, then? Your second sentence, above, is as obvious as a bear that defecates in the woods. :huh:



    why have I debated it??


    did you forget that you said


    the concertina is roughly 10 times easier than fiddle


    and then you agree with my second sentence???


    No wonder your brain hurts.

  12. That is the first post that I've read written by you that I take absolutely no excetion with. Charming music--thank you.


    I agree.


    All I heard there was 2 chords and notes. To me this is the same as playing ITM from notation with out any extras. I would give it ago myself having never attempted anything other than trad but I dont have that range on an Anglo. I thought the point was to show technicality? All that was there was notes. I am not knocking your playing, It is very well played but there is nothing technical about it is what I am saying. Do you have something that I would have the range to play on an anglo so I can give it a go?

    You are missing my points, my friend. It was you, who stated that ITM music technically is equal to "serious", but it's hard to talk to zealots, they read between the lines, and only what they are able to assume.

    You can knock my playing, it's just an illustration of what I'm working on. From this illustration I have proven the fact, that to play classical music one has to be just as ingenious, original, talented and what not, as any top ITM player out there. So there is no difference between them, an nobody plays from the "dots". In such capacity they can be compared, as their approach is the same.

    And your Anglo has larger range, than my Tenor. I only have 2,5 octaves at my disposal, and you have the whole octave more.

    Plus push/pull will add erzats intonation, that will sound better in the beginning, than anything attempted on EC. Give it a try, you'll have more appreciation of rowbustness, whit and humor of those classical players.


    Firstly I did not knock your playing, just stating what I can hear from your upload. Secondly the point you were supposed to prove was the fact that classical is more complex and technical than ITM. Our discussion was not about talent.

    And finally I dont have the low octave at my disposal to attempt the piece.

  13. I thought I was through with this debate (and, in fact, I am with skins-)


    But, I thought of one more way to illustrate the dynamic range of the fiddle: it is far more difficult to make a concertina sound like a fiddle, than vice-versa.


    Good day all :D


    so you can double octave, throw in chords at will etc.... the list goes on.


    If one wanted to make there fiddle sound like a concertina just pick up a concertina and vice-versa.


    You really don't get the point.


    Seperate instruments, different techniques, etc etc etc.... been through this already.


    Skins-, skins-, skins- Chording is very rare in fiddling, (while drones and modal playing is the rule). The point, mine anyway, is that the range of expressiveness is far greater on fiddle. And combined with the variables of execution, much, much more complex than playing concertina (and, therefore, not as "easy"). But I'm talking to a person who would not know, as you are not a player.


    Okay, NOW I'm done .. :lol:


    I know what your point is, that is what we have been discussing. As i have quoted one of the best concertina/fiddle players in ITM and you still disagree, I really am wasting my time catty.


    I am not saying one is easier or more complex than the other. Why can't you accept that both are complex and the complexity or expressiveness depends on the musician not the instrument?

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