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  1. When I saw your famous Shantyman on the Button Box sales page, I feared the worst. Glad to see you're still with us, but it is a bit worrying when one sees a fellow squeezer part with an old friend. Wish you the best up there in the Commonwealth, Ross Schlabach
  2. There is no relationship between the two -- they're just both on eBay! The Norway listing is brand new and, of course, the GPanda one is a relisting of the custom Aeola anglo. Sorry for the confusion. Ross Schlabach
  3. Well, we have GPanda back again, but here is something new: a flea market find from Norway! It looks like it will need a full rebuild -- complete with new bellows -- but for fans of the 38 button models, this could be interesting. Check it out here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/C-JEFFRIES-CONCERTINA-/320775480858?pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Keyboard_RL&hash=item4aafb5661a#ht_500wt_951 Regards, Ross Schlabach
  4. I was wondering when someone else would notice and comment on this. Not only does it look like a Jeffries bellows -- complete with Jeffries style bellows papers, Jeffries stamping and the twin gold lines along the edge banding -- but the thumb straps have the Jeffries stamp on them too! Yes, this is unusual but I don't know how much so. I've never seen it before, but that doesn't mean it hasn't been repeated. This same style of bellows decoration was also found on some Crabbs and Crabb-made Ball Beavons, so there is the possibility that they did a re-work of this concertina and used their own style of decoration. Maybe Geoff can add some light to this conundrum? Ross Schlabach
  5. Hi Robert, I'm a long-time participant in Noel's US classes (since 1996), so I'll try to tackle your questions. First off it would be good to know how long you have been playing and your current level. The reason I ask is that the longer you have been doing something, the longer it may take to undo it. However, from personal experience and from discussions with other starting students at Noel's classes in NY and KY, the period of stumbling and frustration lasts a couple of days and then things start to make sense. But again, your length of time playing in another style can have an impact on the amount of time it takes for you to adapt. But let's put this in another context to help you. Since I've been trained in Noel's methodology for 16 + years now, you could say I'm pretty well set in an "across the rows" style. Well in 2010, I went to the SE Tionol and took a concertina class with Florence Fahy. Florence taught the style she was brought up with which is from North Clare and is primarily along the rows. The tunes she taught and the way she played and taught them reflected this background. So I would be in the reverse of your situation. I'm getting a few years on the airframe (65) so I'm not the quickest study, but after about half a day, the fingerings she used were becoming more comfortable to me. This is just to illustrate that I think every dog can learn a new trick -- even me -- and I would encourage you to go ahead and sign up for Noel's class. If you do sign up, and if you ask, I think they will send you some materials shortly before class to help you start practicing some scales to familiarize you with the across the rows fingering he will be using in class. If memory serves me correctly, this was done with a couple of the newbies from this year's Midwest class. Lastly, Noel is a great teacher and will do what it takes to help you learn. Plus, he gives interesting and challenging tunes to keep you moving forward. So it's a Win-Win opportunity for you. And if you are interested in the West Coast class, you need to act very quickly cause that class fills faster than any of the others. Of course, we have a great group at the Midwest class and I know the NY bunch will welcome you just as warmly too, so you should be able to find a slot somewhere for 2012. And yes, your money is well spent whichever class you join. Ross Schlabach
  6. Judging from the man's reply to the request for more pictures of the concertina, his reply is so rambling and incoherent that it appears he isn't playing with a full deck! I would avoid him at all costs and certainly stay away from his auctions. Ross Schlabach
  7. I'm envious. Those are great players and I think you will have a great time. Ross Schlabach
  8. I'd like to add my two cents worth here since there has been some questioning of sales motives. I have developed over the years a great fondness for Jeffries concertinas. I find the button spacing and air button placement is ideal for someone like me with large hands. I'd love to be able to own and play a Linota but they just don't seem to fit my hands. I expect that the Wheatstone concertina layouts were greatly influenced by the patrician customers they had at the time, and I expect that Jeffries concertinas were designed to fit the hands of their predominant clientelle which I imagine were working men. So I echo Paul's comments and those of the seller, Sean, that the Jeffries concertinas can just be right when no other concertina will seem to do. Whether it's layout or tone or some other intangible; for me at least and maybe some others: it's real. Best regards, Ross Schlabach
  9. Many years ago at the NESI, one of the participants showed up with what I remember as a Wheatstone (English I think) that he had embellished with bellows papers made from fine cigar labels. I can't envision puffing on that many cigars, or even one for that matter. But I find Ken's way of doing it sublime. Slainte! Ross Schlabach
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    Carroll Concertina

    The Carroll has been sold and will shortly be heading to its new home. Ross Schlabach
  11. Phil, it might not affect the playability, it could affect the sound; but it would definitely affect the value. I'm surprised our forum's experts haven't stepped up with some useful information. They may come through for you yet. Ross Schlabach
  12. Phil, I would not get too concerned about the quiet on this auction since most action occurs in the last few minutes/seconds. What would concern me are the ends. Admitedly, I am no expert on Lachenal concertinas but those metal ends look questionable and may be replacements or might have been media blasted or otherwise altered. Do we have any experts on these Edeophones who can shed some light on this instrument? If these ends are genuine, then my suggestion would be to limit one's maximum bid to what you feel the instrument is worth to you. Then you can't get burned unless there are some hidden problems with the instrument -- which would be the case regardless of what you paid. Ross Schlabach
  13. Steve, I think there are a number of factors playing into these recent low prices. Generally speaking, the economic situation is undoubtedly having an impact with monetary crises in Greece, Spain, Italy and the like. Of course the US isn't much better if at all. Then there's the instruments themselves and the sales venues. Judging from the pictures, the Baritone? edeophone did not look well cared for and the dirt and such on the bellows would suggest possible problems there too. Consider also that there has been a larger than usual volume of English concertinas on eBay recently and there's a possibility that the English concertina market might be temporarily overloaded with excess supply -- depressing prices. Of course, Baritones are less sought after than trebles. Then there's the venues. These private auction galleries are somewhat obscure and local in nature and don't or won't do the necessary marketing to raise awareness on upcoming auctions. If any/some/or all of these factors in play, then the prices realized will be depressed. As to John Nixon's concertina, it would only bring a better price if the provenance is worth something to buyers. IMHO, collectors are the only potential buyers to whom provenance is of much interest and collectors are not a big part of our concertina world except maybe when it comes to certain Jeffries, Wheatstone anglos and other rare models. Provenance is far less important to a playing musician than the playing quality and tone of the instrument itself. Since even on eBay the prices English models have been bringing of late are lower, it's my suggestion that the world & especially European economic situation is having some effect on the market and possibly the demand for English models is reduced. And anglo prices have even shown some signs of softness with the Irish economic crisis undoubtedly playing a part on this segment of the market. It will be interesting to see if prices for English models regain their footing or not. I've thought that over the past couple of years some anglo prices have gone up outrageously and outpaced the ability of most players to afford them. That could result in more fine concertinas either lounging in dealers' inventory or ending up exclusively in collections instead of the hands of players -- a shame indeed. Ross Schlabach
  14. Congrats on the nice Jeffries. Since you asked for a manufacturer without a long waiting list, it's interesting that you mentioned the current Wheatstone. I doubt you could find a company with a longer and slower waiting list. Actually though, just about every concertina builder worth considering already have long waiting lists. But you wanted a traditionally built 40 button instrument, so you might want to consider an original Wheatstone. The 40 button models are generally less sought after than 30 & 38 button models. It may be hard to find a G/D model with all the traditional features but it will probably be preferrable to getting on someone's waiting list. In fact I'm not aware of any of the well known builders who routinely build a 40 button model. Do be aware that a lot of the 40 button Wheatstones available and ocassionally seen on eBay are later models that may not have all the older traditional construction methods, so check them out carefully. And while you're shopping, you probably want to give Chris Algar a call since he has the best chance of having what you want. Good luck on your hunt. Ross Schlabach
  15. Karen, you may be extremely lucky and find a good samaritan who offers you a mini concertina at a cheap price. But I hope you understand that mini concertinas were made in extremely small numbers almost 100 years ago and are considered highly desirable both as playing instruments and collectors items. For this reason, these concertinas normally have prices that can easily exceed $1,000. In fact there's an English mini concertina on eBay right now with a starting price of $2,350. This is probably too high but you get the point. I just thought you should know the problem you face. But good luck just the same. Ross Schlabach
  16. I find that as I gain in years, I spend less time with each of my 4 anglo concertinas than they deserve. So I have reluctantly decided to downsize and sell my rosewood-ended Carroll concertina. This is a lovely playing and sounding instrument (#10) that was originally made for me as a Bb/F. Later, I asked Wally to build me a C/G reedpan set to go in it, and I got Greg J. to make a nice custom case for it that even has a little compartment that can hold a digital recorder and mini tripod. I think this concertina sounds great in both pitch combinations. For those who care, this concertina has never been subjected to cigarette smoke or the risks associated with sessions in pubs! There's a picture of the ends on the Carroll website;I've included 2 photos with this listing; and I can take additional photos on request. I live in Tryon, North Carolina -- about an hour south of Asheville, and if you would like to try before you buy, I would welcome a visit and test drive. The asking price is $8,000 which is just a bit less than it would cost to order a new Carroll in this twin reed pan set configuration with the custom case. I'm not asking any premium for saving you the 3+ year wait for a new one, so my price is firm. You can reach me via this forum's message system or direct e-mail. I can take PayPal if necessary. Shipping and insurance will be extra and payable by the buyer. Like everybody else, I would like to sell it through the forum and avoid eBay and a donation to Paul for the website is a given. I must unfortunately limit this to US sales on account of hassles with overseas transactions. So this is a great chance for somebody to move up to a top anglo concertina with the special extra of a second reedpan set. Ross Schlabach rpsqueezer<nospam>@gmail.com
  17. Do note that this instrument -- though apparently made at 23 Praed Street -- is a Jeffries Bros instrument and not a C Jeffries concertina. Ross Schlabach
  18. I was at Swananoa some years back and Father Charlie was teaching our concertina class. He was having problems with multiple notes sounding on one side of his concertina. I didn't have my full tool kit, so I drove to the nearest CVS and picked up some Mole Skin and a pack of razor blades. We met that afternoon and I was able to use the mole skin to seal a couple of offending chambers. Once it was back together and working, I got to share a wonderful private session with him. Ross Schlabach
  19. Since Edeophones were English models (discounting the very rare 12 sided Lachenal/Wheatstones like that of Grey Larson that weren't true Edeophones), might these two levers be bowing valves? Ross Schlabach
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    maybe worth a look

    Oops! You're right on both counts Jim. Ross Schlabach
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    maybe worth a look

    David, If you like the characteristics of the tone of your B/F#, then retuning is always risky. You can never be guaranteed that the character will remain as you like it. But if you don't have a suitable C/G, then retuning the B/F# up might make sense to make it your primary session instrument. Otherwise, keeping the current tuning or dropping it to Bb/F will keep it in a range that really sounds good on Anglos. I'm familiar with Greg's retuned B/F# and before it was retuned to Bb/F, it wasn't tuned to modern standards and since its tuning was closer to Bb/F (half step) than it was to C/G (full step), going to Bb involved less reed filing. IMHO, the retuning improved the tone of the concertina and made it's pitch more distinct from C/Gs. Regards, Ross Schlabach
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    maybe worth a look

    I can attest to Greg's comments about his 28 button Jeffries. I got some time to try it and I was impressed with both the tone and the action. All in all, a tasty Jeffries! Ross Schlabach
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    maybe worth a look

    Geoff, Do you know what the original tuning was? Thanks for your help and comments, Ross Schlabach
  24. I'm another leftie and believe that all the assumptions about the instrument favoring the righties are bunk! I play ITM on my Anglo with lots of years teaching from Noel Hill and I think the Anglo let's me do just fine. I admit I do prefer tunes with more bass emphasis, but many of the popular tunes are of that construction. I agree that much of the right hand notes are too high and not terribly usefu or enjoyablel. Many of the tunes are centered around the first two+ columns of notes both left and right giving both lecture and righties equal enjoyment on the Anglo. I also play hammer dulcimer and find it's layout similarl satisfying. So if one is a lefty, feel no shame or worry. Jump right in to the Anglo and have a ball. Ross Schlabach
  25. This concertina looks like a Lachenal. You can see a similar one for sale on the Button Box website at the page for Instruments in Stock and see the price they are asking. The value of yours could be more or less depending on the tuning, condition of the bellows/reeds and other key parts. Good luck, Ross Schlabach
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