Jake Middleton-Metcalfe
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Geoffrey, haha! That has everything I could possibly ever need! Very helpful as always. The chart is easy to understand and shows frequencies for pretty much any tuning anyone would want.
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Lester, yeah I found that site, pretty helpful.
Chris. Thanks very much. I can derive all I need from that. I would have been posting a thread on here with the project and its progress but its a university project for my final year of my course and I have been a bit stressed with it. I will do a post showing what I have made soon
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Hello
I am trying to find out what exact notes are used on C/G and G/D anglos in the wheatstone layout in A4=440hz. To be specific, I know what the notes arein so far as what is shown on the below layouts in the links I have posted but not what exact notes they are... say the low C on a C/G, is that a C4 at 261.63? or could it be C3 at 130.81hz? Could someone direct me to a source online that would have this infomation for all of the notes.
GD: http://www.concertina.info/tina.faq/images/g_d_30_wheatstone.jpg
CG: http://www.concertina.info/tina.faq/images/c_g_30_wheatstone.jpg
I would check a concertina against my strobe tuner but I currently dont own a concertina. That is the root of why I need to know this, I am ordering reeds, to make said concertina. I am actually already making one with plans to make another, I will post some pictures on these projects soon as the first is almost done.
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I would say the hand rest is very important for putting your hand in the right place in relation to the buttons, I would agree also with the people who say sometimes the old anglos have hand rests that are not high enough. All concertina makers I have asked about this make their hand rests a little taller than what came in the 19th century. When I had an anglo made for me I specifically gave measurements for the hand rest height.
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I noticed this as well, all instruments, hybrid or traditional always have the hole above the base of the reed. I have heard it said that an accordion reeded concertina behaves very strangely when the hole is above the tip of the reed. It apparently makes a very very horrible sound. As to why - no idea. Henrik told me about this happening to him when he put a reed back in the wrong way.
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well done on making your own reeds, that is quite a task that few non pros would attempt. Are the tongues slightly tapered, with a slight trapezoid shape or did you go for a rectangular strip?
Jake
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a friend of mine who graduated from the same course I am doing made a barrel organ, here is a picture http://wyewaltz.org/wiki/images/thumb/6/66/Street_organ_small.jpg/800px-Street_organ_small.jpgunfortunately I never got to hear it play
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Geoffrey... thank you, this is of great interest to me.
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It might be good to design a lever for the anglo which works on a similar principal to an air lever on a hohner melodeon. Its a lever poking straight out of the instruments end, as opposed to parallel to it as the designs shown on here.
There are a couple of problems -the sort of lever I describe is L shaped with the pad on the bottom end of the L - though it is a backwards L so that the mechanism works with thumb movement. This is problematic with a concertina as there is less space, so I would suggest a lever mechanism something like this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55203562@N02/16396786670/#
The L shaped lever acts upon a classic concertina lever allowing the mechamism to work at a right angle in plan
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We did discuss setting up a forum though decided to make the group on facebook as it would be quicker to attract new people as you say. A forum could be a slow grower but has the potential to be bigger and better than a fb group. It could be a really great thing.
I don't have any knowledge of setting up a website, is it particularly high maintenance or expensive?
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my mum is a graphic artist and was regularly commissioned to simply write one word in a specific artistic way
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though its quite similar to construction and repair - perhaps people working on projects could keep them on construction and repair though also could join the facebook group if they are interested in such a thing.
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we could do but this is a forum for concertinas, I wanted to make a general group about free reeds, however a makers sub forum on this site would also be awesome I agree.
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fair enough. I wasn't sure how else to do it short of creating a whole new forum
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Hello
After an exchange of ideas between me and Łukasz Martynowicz of this forum we thought it might be good to make a facebook group for amateur concertina makers in the hope that like minded individuals can share ideas, provide helpful feedback, criticisms and advice as well as document and display various projects. We thought that perhaps there were not many amateur concertina makers so I decided to call it the " Amateur free reed instrument makers " group. To attract more people, also it might create interactions, synergy and ideas that might not have happened if it was dedicated only to one free reed instrument.
Although the title is "amateur" professionals are of course more than welcome, anyone with interest is welcome to join really.
Want to make your own instrument? Made one and want to talk with like minded people? Come join the group! Here it is: https://www.facebook.com/groups/882333518455395/
Jake
Edit: this is now a facebook "group" rather than "page" I have deleted the page, I am new to making this sort of group on facebook and it should work better now.
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sweet tune. Concertina really adds to the sound
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here is a photo essay where one is disassembled: http://hmi.homewood.net/marcus/
You can see the great craftsmanship present on this
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I have played Marcus instruments and they are very playable, very responsive and very very carefully and beautifully made. I would happily own one.
Marcus is also a really cool dude. I bourght some reeds off him once.
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Jake's partner talking here:
Speaking as a dressmaker lots of garments are sold as hand-made despite using industrial/domestic straight-stitch, overlocking, eyeleting, blind-hemming machines and electric irons, CAD aided (or commercially sold) patterns, etc etc.
In other sphere's hand-made items don't necessarily connote an item made entirely by hand but will often involve the use of some machines. More often hand-made in the western world refers to individual, one off production. So don't be too off put by using hand-made in your description. You are not being devious, but would be in line with lots of other products which are sold as 'hand-made'.
Tries to log off concertina.net quickly before Jake posts....
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If you haven't already I would really recommend reading about the arts and crafts movement. This is pretty much the most influential reaction against industrialisation by designers which has left a great effect in our culture today. The basic idea of it was that William morris and his mates felt that the industrial mass production happening in the 19th century was miserable for the workers and produced an inferior product for the consumer. The movement favoured hand craftsmanship and preferred the idea of the medieval style of working with hand tools and not so much division of labor. There was great nostalgia for the perceived loss of innocence of life within this movement which heralded the medieval ages as the golden age of creativity.
The concertina seems to me to be an industrial instrument, made in a division of labor system in a factory by man operated machine. I think William morris would have hated it.
maybe we could view its industrial heritage as something to be proud of, to celebrate even! Embrace the machine! WAAA!
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This isnt an instrument with an odd number of sides but it is an oddity: http://www.concertina.info/tina.faq/images/haydp.htm
its a 10 sided concertina made by the Dippers
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Got this sorted now. Cheers guys Squeeze on
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Nigel Sture, is he related to lisa sture the champion step dancer? I would be very into hanging around a workshop and talking about projects he is working on.
Nice Job Of Work By John Connor
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I look forwards to hearing it