Pete Dunk
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Hello Dan, welcome to the forum. Which particular flavour of concertina rocks your boat? As a music teacher I bet you've gone for the English although duets appeal to many formally trained musicians.
I'll be picking your brains about rhythms soon enough!
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Also, I know which view I favour, so would be interested in feed-back to see whether others share my opinioin.
I don't play anglo so it's all a mystery to me but if Danny Chapman was to make a similar video playing an English I think it would make more sense from the lower angle. Nice playing by the way.
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Er, I thought it said Lachenal Label Scam! Sorry for this post...
Now I'm all intrigued and wondering what your original post said.
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Is this a Wiki duet concertina? I've not seen a MacCann with less than 46 buttons and it does have six rows (sort of) but it does look kind of odd.
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The flat's not where you'd expect it is it?
We call them apartments over here
Crikey! Someone from t'other side of the pond (if a little to the north) that understands proper English, whatever next.
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I'm no expert on this but the layouts look quite different to me. The MacCann has six rows of buttons and the Crane five, I've not paid much attention to the Hayden but I have a vague recollection that it looks more like an anglo layout than anything. A duet midi concertina could but made but not an all systems one I fear.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Concertina Connection bring out a Hayden midi in the fullness of time though.
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A while ago I bought a 1916 model 2 Wheatstone 48 key treble - rosewood ends, nickel buttons, brass reeds. I was quite surprised to find that all 96 reeds were valved, and they all looked original or at least quite old. I thought it might have been re-valved by an inexperienced repairer who didn't realise that the top few notes on each side aren't usually valved at all (as I understand it).
Recently I came across a mid range Lachenal 48 key treble - rosewood ends with metal inlays, nickel buttons, 5 fold bellows. Quite a nice looking thing but needs a fair bit of attention to get it back into playing condition. Again it has valves fitted to all 96 reeds. Did I misunderstand the description I read somewhere that said that the higher reeds in a treble (a few on each side) weren't fitted with valves at all, or have I found two fairly good quality instruments that have suffered at the hands of inexpert repairers?
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The title of this thread has never been more apt. Just look at this! I was quite interested in this item as I need spares for a couple of instruments - but not that much, I went to just over a hundred but would certainly spend no more. Chris must be laughing his socks off.
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Sorry Robin I didn't realize we'd jumped back to the first of the Aeolas and I missed any reference to a serial number for that one. I agree the entry is odd and there are several other entries on the same page which are similar but the fact remains that a tenor concertina has only 48 keys. A 56 key tenor can only be a tenor/treble as far as I'm aware, if it was a tenor extended down that would be the same as an extended baritone wouldn't it?
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I've made up two of the David Leese kits with excellent results and the price is very reasonable. Thoroughly recommended.
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Something else that is interesting re. this Aeola (or it might just be me not understanding the Wheatstone archive shorthand.)
Model 19 is a tenor treble but in this case it says "tenor" in the entry,which it does not usually do for a T/T......it just gives the model #.
I don't know if we're looking at different things here but I read the entry for 30022 as 'Octo' which is shorthand for the octagonal Aeola.
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I guess this is a bargain at GBP2500 now? It's a later vintage but very nice all the same.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Wheatstone-56-key-ae...1QQcmdZViewItem
It's a lovely instrument and I would consider the price to be very fair. Again if I had the cash I would be diving in at the buy it now price. It is a later model than the other one, but it's still firmly in Wheatstone's 'golden era'.
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A tenor would only have 48 keys. A 56 key tenor is by definition a tenor/treble.
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You put a shoulder strap on your jackie? How does that work?
I think m3838 is being modest or missed the point of your question. He made a great little video that shows how it works. Nifty and well thought out; as a left hander I'd have the strap over my right shoulder to keep the right hand end of the concertina in a fixed position.
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This tenor/treble Edeophone is a much better indicator of market value I would think. I'd have expected see this for sale from a dealer at around £2200-£2300 and make a little less in an auction. I would have thought the best price the Aeola would have brought to be about £2600 but people do get carried away when bidding now and again. I'd be surprised if this is a sign of things to come.
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It was originally on at GBP0.99 start but someone must have told him it's valuable (there was a question re the number) and advised him that it was valuable. I think one of the others mentioned was bought by Neil Wayne for a couple of hundred a while back (I could be wrong there).
Neil Wayne is now in on the bidding for this one, it will be an interesting sale to watch.
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Quite a nice looking box now that the detailed pics have been added. It will be interesting to see what it sells for.
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I forget to mention that the original subject of this thread is back on at a starting price of 99p!
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Whilst not quite as outlandish as some offerings, this new listing is perhaps a tad ambitious. It's from one of the usual suspects.
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It's like a comedy of errors John. The original workshop start time of 2.15 was put back an hour to 3.15 because of a scheduling cockup so you might easily have made it for the whole thing. Sounds like you'd had enough squeezing for one day though!
Stopped at Northiam station eh? I work at the other end of the village!
No doubt we'll run into each other at an ICA meeting in Canterbury before too long ...
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Wow!
GBP3025 It looks like the English are going the way of the anglo!
To be fair it was an exceptional instrument, I think we'll wait a long time to see one in as fine condition again. I first spotted it a couple of days before this thread started and if I'd had the cash I would have gone for the buy it now at a mere £2,450. Fairly average ebony ended Aeola tenor/trebles cost that kind of money.
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I'm sorry if this has been discussed before but if it has I can't find it. Whilst there is a great deal of info available about Wheatstones there seems to be relatively little about the various models of Lachenel, the price list descriptions are of little help. So is this a pic of an Excelsior? Does anyone have pictures of other models (other than the obvious Edeophone)?
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I'm in the same situation and have also considered to get a new bellows from David Leese.
The price is particularly attractive : 105 pounds for a kit (160 if fitted), while
all other solutions I have came across are significantly more expensive.
I'm wondering if there is an explanation for this.
Is it due to different construction methods ? Is there a difference in quality ?
More generally, is there a valuable reason one should pay twice that price for a bellows ?
David
David, you might like to consider David Leese's other option and pay £130 pounds for the kit with separate cards, these are far more like the traditional construction. I'm sure that these bellows offer really good value for money but perhaps they won't last as long as other bellows - maybe only 60 years instead of 80! The card used in the set I bought wasn't the acid free museum or mat board used in Tedrow bellows and is possibly a little thinner, for that reason I suspect they may have a somewhat shorter life.
I would match the quality of the bellows to that of the concertina and what you expect from it, also of course the amount of money you are prepared to pay right now. If you're an advanced player with a really nice high end concertina with worn out bellows then I'd probably go for a traditional set of bellows fitted by a respected maker. If you have an average but playable instrument I think David's bellows kit would serve you very well but I'd still spend the other £25 on the better set. If you don't fancy doing the job yourself the fitted price is still not out of the way. Hope this helps ...
64-button Aeola For Sale
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Is this a baritone/treble or a treble extended down? If that doesn't make sense, is the C below middle C on the left hand (baritone/treble) or the right hand?