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On 3/30/2021 at 1:22 AM, JoachimDelp said:
You could also contact me to my email, you fin in b perile.
Dear marxstadter
after the secod world war USA helped Europe
Thank you merica for the Marshall Plan , for the US airplaines in the sky of Berli, etting sall seet bombs, cn taiing cccolate and other desirable thing which eere scare at this times.
Thank you cigaetes, Music, Elvis Presley Babys
etrc.
To give you b ack a little bit too, now it is our term to help you generously
Now serious:
If you yet not been able to resolve this magter, I supported b y Mr. Harry Geuns can help, smost likely any you need + advice how to doit, in copndition you send or photgraps plu descipion of this parts and its location inside the Bandoeon.
So, I invite you, tell us n detail what is needed, what does not work properly documentating as detaied and good as possible, and shal hav e in stock, Harry´s stock or mine, and if not together we can find what may b e needed oherwise.
Harry is a well kn own B aneon Rsorer and Build, ein earler times he aslo has buil the Euns Concertina, in its time qitte wekk know in the UUSA. A geins hybid conrtina was ,my first goo cncertina.
I I have admade you curious, here is teh ink to Harry´s web seie, which can perhaps can transmoit you an impression, what this kind man is capable.
He is not only a good and expeience Bandeon Maker, he is also a very good, exellen fllow.
I have not asked him if I am alllowed to menton is name here, an d in the beginning I did not thnk to do so. I guess he agres.
Want to make clearthis is no promotion letter, m, neither him nor me, we do not need, speciallly him does not need such a thing,
Well, no it is your turn, wrie me abd we sha reply you quicly and shal try to asssit ou, so teh Arnold can be working again a fes days.
Joachim
http://bandoneon-maker.com/contact/
There ill be no invoice for a few spares !!!
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On 3/30/2021 at 8:22 AM, Seth said:
Your right, it was your son who accidentally bought the concertina with your eBay account while you were in the hospital.Good thing is we worked together and got it fixed fast. I hope your doing well 😊 and our house and shop is open to you anytime you want to visit.
Seth
Yes I am well ! Thank yu Seth.
But I annonced to tell the tota truth
And for one or the other it may remind to smilar expiences.
So:
Ahuman fing clicked the button "Biy Now " not eally inntionted and the accdent happned.
The concertina has bee bid and won as it would haven desiraby b y me.
But, ???, I don´nt stil excatly how it could happen.
The concetina sas bee payed from my wife´s Paypal account. And she thiks I am v ey ill and cazy speding too much money for conertinas and cannot understand why I am doig this.
We can establis a far and raional comnication abut thi isshe-
For netter understanind i mst say, that my family only a few weeks ago, had o live nearby he limits of a reasonable standard of Life.
And only some short time ago, I receive luykjly at the age of 73 !!!
a pension from the Spanish Government, where I ahve been living and working the bigger art of my Life and addianally it happened, that I received back draw payent of about 12 montsh. 12 x motlhly monthly pension, which has bee some thousands of Euros. this allowed to pay off all my debts, accumuae over the years
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And the rest now is pend and translaed in a nice numbrt of Concertinas. a ew beautiful ones,. nice payable ones, and the b igger numb er for leaning even allowing me to destroy , in my learning by doiong process. And I couold alllow me to order to Dana numeer 093 Angolo, which is ow in cosruction and mayb e piked by me personall still this year.
It is supposed to be the best instrument Dana will have ever made :), :).
That is our deal !!!!
Well my wife at abut 1.00 h am shouted deseparately to heaven, when she fund sseth´s concertina on her account, sayingh bad words about my son´s father.
My so did d all he coud to mae possible that this money could return to his mother´s account, used my Paypal account to transfer the amout to his mothes accoutunt.
As revenge and men of pressure she kept the oney and did not return to me as a kind of compenation of her Concrtina sufferings from my side.
When I came back home from cinic, i supported the situation peacefuully , trying to re-establlish peace-
Meanwhile I have received my moey back, just a few days ago,
And yes, I mzst confesss, I suffer from Concertinitusm and I am very happy with ikkness, and hae done meanwhile my firt succesful repair and progress.
And I culd convince my wife, that she is my b eloved nd b eatiful wife to whjom I owe prt of my health and hainesss.
But long time relationships somestime it occurs that frome heaen n young years,. ne entres into a hell after sme 4ß yeas of partnership, but I achieved also that she s ccepting with pain, that her young husband, finay - when not to far awy from...........
finally will not support educational presure from anybvod, but onl wil accept kind adie and tpps, but at the end will do what his conscience and sense if resonsabitly - yes, I have it :), allows him to do.
I am tgrying to ive finally my live, withut presusure of a great men, but terribe father, teachers, still beatin g the kids in the olde times, and the the dicty<roship of a well tinking bu equivted wife, and teh demans and pressure a man suffers nd enjoys hwen is under the pressur and obligation to care and educate children succesfully, and withut bein my exlsuve merit, has now 5 sonderful daghters, one well appeared you ngman and hard working son, plus six grand- schildren, plus the bew memer of my marvelous family, son in law, aughter in law and artners all well aduced, sme extremeyl succssfulll ylready in youn g years, well
about 18 pesons to love and to enjoy.
Well, I ahve now surpassed by fr, what i prende to wirte and most likely not reaaly of your nerst. Butg it is done.
Perhaps there is one or the other smiling now. I am afraid I am ot the ony one whos occasioallly has been or is on conlct with his relaes and the world, due to his illl and crazy relation ship to fre reeds
But we are ot only happy, we are living fulifilled Life thnnks tothe concertina nd the music and our forum and concertina friends
We are sometimes adly treated Minority in tis world, with our own Langauge, Culture
and Lawa:)
We shuld demand and fight for Autoomy fr our Gvernmenss
Viva la Cncertin a !
Bye Joachjm the chattyx concertinist an
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1 hour ago, Seth said:
If anyone doesn’t fully understand what Joachim is talking about I’ll explain. He had one of my concertina listings on his eBay watch list and accidentally bought it and let me know right away before I shipped the instrument so I was able to just send a refund right away and re-list the auction.
Anyways, it’s not a problem at all Joachim, I got the auction relisted and sorted out. I actually did the same thing you did last year when I accidentally bought an Accordion on eBay that was on my watch list. I fell asleep with my phone in my hand scrolling through eBay and somehow bought a $2000 accordion in my sleep. The seller understood and just as I did with you got me refunded quickly. I try to not fall asleep looking through eBay anymore, 😂.
Anyways, don’t lose sleep over it, everyone makes mistakes.... We’re human.
Cheers, Seth
No Seth, this interpretaton is also not toally correct, but you do not kow alll details and background
I don´t feel acused and don´t feel the need to deend myself, since are ot accusing me. This is understoodd.
Ishal give my version within a day or two, since now without almost hae slept enouugh and have to keave home for r#travelling all day today, I do not do it know. I am still half drunk due to lack of sleep.
iT IS NOTHING DRAMTIC; BUT FUNNY AN PRIVATE. Nevertheles for entertainment and lougin the story is good enough, the totally true story
I am called a chaty Concertinist, and tis is I am afaid true, but ceranly not only chatty.
And the most important point for me, that my stomach tells me Yiu are a great fuy and it must be a pleasure o do business with you.
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Just now, JoachimDelp said:
Absolutely worth to be repaired-
I am locaed n Ermany and i repair modestly old German Concertinas.
Have seveal old Concertinas in stock fpor spare and for beeing repared or upcycvled.
I am in contact here with some Erman REpairers and Makers, have one specially in mind I bopught from him a schepaer but beautiful ccnertina.
This man should ba capab le to help, presume and he is a fine guy.
If you athorize me and if you cannoz quicly resolve your problem in your place I offer my assitance. I am sitting nerer to the fountain and I am going qute frequently to Klingenthal, Chemnitz and Dresde. In Chemnitz I know a BAndoneon Club. Might be worth to take contac with them in my labuage.
So, tell me if you want me to do some effoprt, what I wuld do with a great pleasure.
Joachim
You could also contact me to my email, you fin in b perile.
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4 hours ago, marxstadter said:
Hello, everyone!
As the title says, I'm looking for an Arno Arnold chemnitzer concertina that we can salvage some pieces from. I recently discovered that my grandfather, a lifelong concertina player who currently has Alzheimer's disease, has a broken concertina that in theory could be repaired fairly easily if we had a few replacement buttons, valves/action mechanisms, and springs.
I don't have the year or even really where it came from (due to the dementia). The most I know is that he bought it from someone in either Wisconsin or Minnesota somewhere between 2005 and 2010. He can still play, and we're trying to get it fixed up so he can play it a few more times in his life.
If anyone has any leads, I would be greatly appreciative!
Absolutely worth to be repaired-
I am locaed n Ermany and i repair modestly old German Concertinas.
Have seveal old Concertinas in stock fpor spare and for beeing repared or upcycvled.
I am in contact here with some Erman REpairers and Makers, have one specially in mind I bopught from him a schepaer but beautiful ccnertina.
This man should ba capab le to help, presume and he is a fine guy.
If you athorize me and if you cannoz quicly resolve your problem in your place I offer my assitance. I am sitting nerer to the fountain and I am going qute frequently to Klingenthal, Chemnitz and Dresde. In Chemnitz I know a BAndoneon Club. Might be worth to take contac with them in my labuage.
So, tell me if you want me to do some effoprt, what I wuld do with a great pleasure.
Joachim
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Just now, JoachimDelp said:
Congratulations ! Fine instrument, loooks beautful and sounds well.
And I want hee to confirm, that al you say about Sthe Hamon is right.
And I would say more after having had some story with him.
I appreciated him as being very fair and generous.
Joachim
I feel the need to explain a bit better, what I have stated bbefore:
I mpretended to buy from ermyn a concertina he offered at ebay.
It id not function due to my faults.
He resolved the problem I have created, partially due to my low sight problem quickly .
If you Seth read this, i apologize once more,that i caused problems to you.-
Hope to meet Seth, when tavelling this year to USA, if Covid wil allow.
I am o sure if I should or not have written this, but I felt s I had to do it.
Joachim
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3 hours ago, papawemba said:
Hello everyone !
I am back from a 18 months concertina break trying out tin whistle (great instrument, super cheap comparing to concertina 🙄 ) but now having the concertina bug again (wallet 😪).
Just bought a 30b C/G anglo concertina and would like to share it with you (might help other in their search..).
The concertina is made by Seth Hamon and I believe the model is called “Herrington classic”.Keep in mind I am a beginner wanting an intermediate or long term concertina:
First the service provide by Seth was incredible from start to finish.
I asked a video of all the notes played individually and received it within an hour.
He is friendly and fully answered all my questions (can be a hassle ha ha). It didn’t take me a lot of time to decide to buy it…
The concertina was incredibly well packed: A wooden box in a box in a box with a gap between them, nothing could go wrong. It took me a while to open it…The concertina is beautiful, craftmanship is top and it feel like a very sturdy and good quality concertina (wood differ from to other).
A pleasure in the hand. Specifications :
- Stainless steel end plates
- Action riveted
- 6 fold leather bellows with decorative papers
- Hanche Tipo A-Mano Voci Armonichie Italian made steel reeds
- Wheatstone Button LayoutI was hesitant because of the Wheatstone layout, my main goal is Irish music.
But I don't plan to play in session and maybe I’ll be interested in playing other style in the future…
The sound is on the sweet side (what I was looking for), not harsh at all. It has a good volume and well balanced.On the right side: the more volume, sweeter the sound. Played very slowly, sound does have a few “parasite”.
But I believe tipo a mano reeds get a little polished over time (no idea if this has something to do with it 😊).On the left side: Also pretty sweet sound, bass are well rounded, no resonance/cavern sound. They do play very well even at slow speed.
Bellow isn’t stiff at all and does not squeak (or just a little). I have lots of pleasure on push/pull, getting a bouncy sound I really like.
Now I have no idea if it is a “speed” concertina but reeds speaks quickly.Please find a audio record in attachment to have an idea of the sound (Please don’t care about the tune, it took me a while to remember it ha ha).
Searching for a concertina was fun and a pain because I can only base myself on video/audio found on the net.
I live in Belgium and it is impossible to try it 😕
During my search, I had in mind: The Phoenix, The Minstrell, The Clare, Marcus, AP James…I am very happy with this purchase, the sound is pleasing to me, quality is excellent, I know (hope) It will be years of fun (and not too much issue).
I have no connection with Seth, I just wanted to share.Best
Nicolas
Congratulations ! Fine instrument, loooks beautful and sounds well.
And I want hee to confirm, that al you say about Sthe Hamon is right.
And I would say more after having had some story with him.
I appreciated him as being very fair and generous.
Joachim
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Hello Concetina Fellows out there
This reflects more or less the big smille, I am having on fce, produced by one of the above mentionned instruments afer a long waiting time, due to Covid and I crry this smile ininterruably on my face until today, bacaus my new instrumetn makes me enjoy som much. U have b een readingher sme comment about Mayfair vs. other modernmade hyvrid concertinas and I there may b e some interest to read what I have to say.
The one I got, from UK for a fair price, not perfect, nut in good working condition, makes me happy and provoques to play it much more frequently, than I ahve used my China Mad Tina, distributed in ireland.
When I say n ot perfect, I mean
it has most likely never perfect, to accomplish with the premsses, under which these Concertina may have b een build in its time.
And ot perfect due to some minor defects, which I can fix or shall make fix by moe qualified püersons than I am.
Bellows: 7 fold for harmonic playing, very smooth , flexiuvblble pushing and drawing, a lot of air
Action; quick and no noises
Reeds: Sounding very nice, not too mch different fomr traditionl Concertina reeds. I undersand the reeds may b e Italian ones, but I wonder who has made them, Excellent, good dynamics from origina, I think , but can be improed, by adjsutments and fine tuning. Acuall there are some reeds which respond at equale or similar Air pressure a bit differently.
Butons: I have some sticking ones, thos buttons should remain in a slightöy deeper position, when not pressed. When pressing their is produced some braking and slight stucking, since the point of the keay soes not enter cleanly into the hoe. I think I know how to dot, some fine adjustment n the levers, I guess.
Oover all:
Beter than double pripced vintaeg Lachenal, I have received earler.
Beter than the not b ad Swans, Blackthorns etc.
Comparable to some modern hyb rid accordion reeded middle class instruments,
Not a good than the higher priced hybrid concrtinas when new in some details.
This is compnsated with difference by the chame and feeli ng of this vintage instrument.
And it can be easily improved, avoidig the stickings, valving me of the reeds or b etter al of them, improving to a almost proessional type dynamic.
I am in love with this instruments, which is no beauty queen, but is, as i like, more and better function and service than it appears. NOt fancy at all. The meal ends could be of a more beautiful dsign, but once cleaned and polished up softly, also the appearance will be impoved.
It has imprved my playng so much, that next Tuesday I shalll be some hours moving through the streets of Damrstad and make Music. Curious if omevody will ask to sstopü producing ugly loud nosises or if people will pay me for running away, or if I shal receive some little money, because my playing may be capable to produce one or the other smile.
If somebody wants to know about my experience as a newby as street musician, he can ask me.
If smebody wants to selll his Myfair, i would be happy eceving offers.
Bye
😄
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On 3/20/2021 at 8:04 AM, Alex West said:
Joachim
I used this method specifically to be able to re-use the leather end binding without damaging it. The pictures below show the edge binding I wanted to save and the new bellows built around the old leather. If you want to make a completely new bellows, then you don't need to take such care.
If it's a vintage concertina, then it may well be a water soluble glue or a glue softened by heat. In my experiments, it came off without heat or water. In fact it may have been less messy as the old glue turned to powder when I ran the feeler gauge along. In a newer concertina, I would not be sure what glue might have been used to attach the leather to the end frame.
No problem to contact me if you want assistance
Alex West
Alex, thank you !
I shall reply with mor detaul tomorrow, maybe
I had written aleady quite a lot, most likey anyway too much, and now it makes me angry and it is n o fun to write all again. It is again already midmight here, and i do not sleep enough these days, so....
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35 minutes ago, Dana Johnson said:
It isn’t the number of posts, but the quality of them that counts🙂
Hi Dana,
you make me smile. So much honor for me ?😃
I share this opinion, in condition that I understand it correcly, only one post, but a helpful one + the offer to ask fore help if needed.
That is more tha enough, I amvery glad. and less work to reply to to other friendly felllows 😄
How is ging numger 093 ?
I am here speaking with the creme d la creme
It seems I am a VIP Thank you
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On 3/20/2021 at 8:04 AM, Alex West said:
Joachim
I used this method specifically to be able to re-use the leather end binding without damaging it. The pictures below show the edge binding I wanted to save and the new bellows built around the old leather. If you want to make a completely new bellows, then you don't need to take such care.
If it's a vintage concertina, then it may well be a water soluble glue or a glue softened by heat. In my experiments, it came off without heat or water. In fact it may have been less messy as the old glue turned to powder when I ran the feeler gauge along. In a newer concertina, I would not be sure what glue might have been used to attach the leather to the end frame.
No problem to contact me if you want assistance
Alex West
Thanks I shall revert a b it later I had written as chatty Concertina Player, thea call me her, almost a novel, al most finished and it disappeared and now i dont feel for repeating . May do it tomorrow
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6 hours ago, Alex West said:
Joachim
I'm not sure how good your English is or how Google will cope with the translation but here goes!
I have done this so it's possible but I won't say it's easy and it is not without risk. It might be more easy or more difficult, depending on what the concertina is and how the bellows leather was glued to the frame. In my case, it was a vintage concertina and there was a layer of cloth glued to the frame and the leather was then glued to that, either using a starch glue or a rabbit skin (or similar hide) glue.
Basically, I peeled back the chamois gasket at the edge of the frame and slipped a feeler gauge between the frame and the bellows. If you do this in the middle of a side, the glue seems to be weaker near the brass 'nut" where the end bolt goes and it's easier to get the feeler gauge in here anyway. Since I was going to re-cover the frame with new cloth, I wasn't worried if the cloth ripped but I was careful to keep the bellows intact. Once you can work the feeler gauge down the full depth of the bellows frame, you can then work it backwards and forwards to the corners and you should find that the leather/cloth comes free. You may have to wiggle the feeler gauge a bit and approach the corners from both sides and have a bit of patience. but with a time and small steps, the corners come free and it's possible to remove the frame.
If you want any more help and think that I can assist, feel free to PM me
Alex West
Hello Alex,
Thank you for your advice, which which is viable and the way to go.
id I would have thought, that possibly it could be also hekpful, if i would wet the thin leather stripe on the frame with some solvent or simly warm water.
I hope I am right understanding that this tape is glued with water soluble ehie glue, used for glueing paper and wood in general.
Afer reading your recomendation, I understand also that it does not matter to recover the leather stripe J for a impossible re-using.
Shall try to do it oover the weekend and shall inform you the result afterwards.
Find it funny that we are both enitled by Concertina.Net, as „chatty concertinists“.
This may be correct form e, but I am sure, that you deserve a higher degree !
Looking to your perfile, I read that you are dedicating some time to restore instruments.
I am starting these days to learn about Concertina repair and rsotore, learning by doing, and if you allow I may ask you one or the other question via e-mail.
Once more thank you for helping me.Kind regards JD
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Hello,
wnat to spaparate old bellows from its frames
ow to realize this work conveniently, cleanly and wuthout nor dammaging bellos nor frames.
Someb ody willand and preapred to give me tipp andsome advise ?
Thank you i advan ce !
Joachim
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On 3/17/2021 at 6:21 AM, Sergio said:
Hi JoachimDelp,
No he doesn't have a website (very old school) that I know? If the sound file attached here doesn't work, I have PM you with a sound file too! Thankyou for the interest...☺️
Like it. thank you!
Shal revert to you by mail, have been traveling and exrmely busy. Please excue lat reply.
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1 hour ago, Sergio said:Hey Folks,Many of you in the US may not know of Richard Evans here in Australia, but he is quite well known ‘down under’ as Australia’s concertina doctor... plus maker of his own brand of Anglo called the “Kookaburra” concertina.I’m selling in particular one of his 32K instruments (No16) as pictured. I believe that I am the 3rd owner of this fine instrument & importantly have kept it in playing order with many a ‘seisun’ played here in Perth, Western Australia.Particulars as follows:- 32K, C/G, Metal ends & buttons, proper concertina style steel reeds (hand cut & tuned) 7 fold leather bellows, case kindly inc. $3000 AUD.Lastly, being a rather boutique instrument and not so recognized overseas, the price is modestly reflected here to assist this sale. I would happily arrange international postage at MY expense if it helps seal the deal... Please ask any questions as necessary? Sound file available upon request.Cheers & thanks, Sergio…
Hi Sergio,
Any chance to get a Sound sample ?
Does have Richard Evans a website ?, if so, could you please inform the web address ?
Thanks
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2 hours ago, Bernhard said:
Thank you for the answers!
I would like to gather a lot of information before I buy something and of course I know the saying that if you buy cheap, you buy twice. That's why I'm looking for information about which manufacturers offer reasonable concertinas. I'm not interested in the cheapest instruments made in China, possibly even made by children.
I know the difference between Anglo, English and Duet, but I'm not yet sure which type of concertina suits what I like to play.
What do I like to play:
A few years ago I took clarinet lessons from a jazz musician. There I learned pieces like "Mack The Knife", "Fly me to the moon", "What shall I do with a drunken Sailor" etc. I enjoy such pieces. But I also love to play simple folk songs or children's songs and give them a little swing and occasionally sprinkle in a blue note (that will probably be difficult with an Anglo, right?). Right now I'm playing these things on a tinwhistle. (The clarinet was too difficult for me. I gave it up again).For this purpose I am looking for a suitable concertina that does not squeak like a cheap toy and does not dismantle into its individual parts after a few years.
I am not yet sure, whether I can enjoy this new freedom. I'm the workhorse type
Regards
Bernhard
Hi Berbhard,
with the tunes in mind, you mention here, the instrument should be certanly a 30 button instrument.
If you do not need the b esg ones and do not want to spend over 4000 US$ and for stgarting with it, my rcommendation would be an APJ, which without saying that SWAN Phoenix and other made b y Irish Concetina Company, would not be also good chices, or valid choices, I would recommmend this ones, because thy are ofg good quality, not fancym functional and elegant, sounding very nice APJ is offering in my opinion and excellent price / quality relation.
And once you stat really, I may start to drema a but a Cncertina Trio, foremd by John, you and me
By the way I am playing also harmonica and also I hav e to admit that my musical talent, is of a modest level, but I ahve a lot opf fun, and rom time to also persons who listen tpo me, ar also emoted, ...... mostly in session ata late hour, when perople hav e drunk ough Guinness or whisjey and I play sentimenally some Basque Tunes or on or the othr Hymn.... At this time, late, I dare to perform solo, and as said, humidty content in th aeir raises up...
Well now I am workng for learning and improving, perhaps in a future I amy allowed to start to play at abut 11 pm ot 11.39 pm
Well, bye !
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1 hour ago, Bernhard said:
Thank you for the answers!
I would like to gather a lot of information before I buy something and of course I know the saying that if you buy cheap, you buy twice. That's why I'm looking for information about which manufacturers offer reasonable concertinas. I'm not interested in the cheapest instruments made in China, possibly even made by children.
I know the difference between Anglo, English and Duet, but I'm not yet sure which type of concertina suits what I like to play.
What do I like to play:
A few years ago I took clarinet lessons from a jazz musician. There I learned pieces like "Mack The Knife", "Fly me to the moon", "What shall I do with a drunken Sailor" etc. I enjoy such pieces. But I also love to play simple folk songs or children's songs and give them a little swing and occasionally sprinkle in a blue note (that will probably be difficult with an Anglo, right?). Right now I'm playing these things on a tinwhistle. (The clarinet was too difficult for me. I gave it up again).For this purpose I am looking for a suitable concertina that does not squeak like a cheap toy and does not dismantle into its individual parts after a few years.
I am not yet sure, whether I can enjoy this new freedom. I'm the workhorse type
Regards
Bernhard
2 hours ago, Anglo-Irishman said:Hallo, Bernhard,
Congratulations on your upcoming "freedom!" I've been a pensioner for almost 10 jears now, and enjoy having the time to improve my playing. I live near Stuttgart, by the way!
That describes me pretty well! My excuse is that I have a good singing voice, and my instruments are mostly for accompaniment, so I don't have to be able to pay them like a virtuoso ...
What instruments do you play? I'd say that people who play several instruments, and do it at home just for fun, are musical, even if they never perform in public.
The concertina is one of the instruments I've been playing for a long time. My first concertina, back in the 1960s, was a Klingenthal with 20 buttons. I used it like other young people used guitars in those days: accompanying singing at camp-fires, in youth Church services, at parties etc.
About 10 years later, I bought a small Bandoneon in a Berlin junk-shop. It had almost all its buttons, and was even in tune with itself! This could do everything that the 20-button could - and more, of course. But I never learned to exploit all its possibilities.
I finally moved on to a 30-button Anglo - a Stagi with metal ends. I played this in a folk band for 20 years. It has a pleasant sound that blends well with the fiddle and guitar. Admittedly, I did have to do some work on the buttons when it was new, and modified the air-button, but it was good enough to profit from a new bellows. So it isn't really a standard Stagi. I had no problems with the reeds. They're still in tune after a quarter of a century.
After I retired, I bought my first English-built Anglo, a Dallas-Crabb 30-button. It is better as a solo instrument.
So what would I recommend as a starter? Some say, start with the best instrument you can afford. For me, that would be my Crabb, which is no more difficult to play than my earlier concertinas, and sounds better. On the other hand, I got a lot of enjoyment - and use - out of my old Klingenthal. I don't remember it as being difficult for me as a beginner. My Stagi turned out to be a very useful instrument after modification, and it's still going strong.
So any of them would be suitable for a beginner.
The Klingenthaler have only 20 buttons, whereas many Anglos have 30. The 20-button concertinas (wherever they were made) only have the notes of two major scales, usually C and G, so you're limited to these two keys. However, if you're playing just for yourself, and can choose the key to play in, that's no great problem. If you want to sing folk songs, you'll find that those you can't sing in C, you can sing in G, and vice versa. And if it's German folk songs you're thinking of, then perhaps a Klingenthaler with its warmer, fuller tone might be better for you than a vintage English-made 20-button.
But with Klingenthaler as with all used concertinas, you have to find one that's in good condition. It would certainly be simpler to buy a Wren or Swan, but I have no experience with these.
LG,
John
Hi John,
i do not know too many Concertina Players in Germany. Well I know some by name, but not personally.
So, i am happy to read that you ar liv ing in Stuttgart, not too far away from Darmstad.
In Darmstaqdt and surroundins I ama taking part in sessons , whch U would like to make you kjnow, when Coviud allow it again.,
Woud like to take contact with you, perhaps we can shar our good life with the Concertina.
I am now hav ng Concrtinas for ab uot 20 years, but did never have time for a regualr playng and learning process.
This year with 73 years i won freedom, and I am fcussd on earning using the OAIM Easy Online Concertina Lessons with teachers land courses for all degress, mainly dedicated to Irish Music.
I started with Hohner 30 button Anlgo, which some day has disappeared misteriusly. I thinkn the Hohner is a good starts instrument.
Later I owned a Stagi 30 buttons, with improved action, I liked very muc and had no problems with it.
I know that many people don´t consider the Stagis to be serious instruments...!?
Refernt to this opinion, I am conscient that years ago the Stais had soe prob lems.
I own a Basari 50 Butoon G/D, whih must be ab out 50 years old. I bought oce aboout 25 years ago from USA.
I love it since it has a very special sound, I guess a ew would not have the same.
The G/D tuning I would mor approaite for siningn, that is my feeling.
Stagi has b een overtaken by some yung people, who now under the name of Concertina Italia are going ahead tith Stagis instruments and models.
But I know thay are doing efforts to improve the qualiy, make it constant and they are working on new models. I hae spoken with them and have played some of their insruments, and it is my impression they have really improved and be a bsolutely recommended.
My best instrument, is Kensinton nr. 017 and to whom want to buy a top model, I wold recommend an actual Kensingtono, wiuch I consider to be one of the best.
Actualy I am payling a first English mayde Vintage LÖachnal restored to a good working condition and I like its sound very muchgh.
20 button, 22, 24, 26 or 30 buttons =
Qith all of them opne can make fine music.
I own some old cholers and Klingnthals, I am working on, for my pleasure and I pretend to to add to a first one a couple of buttons, so it would allow at least to play thre tunigns C, G, and D.
20 b uttons, 30 or 38 b uttons, can be too muhc for many of us...
Errll , enpough or a first contact !
Hope to meet you in a near futures. If you kike the idea please contact me under my mail conact.
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12 hours ago, JoachimDelp said:
Hi Bernhard,
i am Joachim from Germany, living nearby Darmstadt.
If you would wish or like, i culd help you a bit, connecting you with the German Konzertina Forum, where you can find all kind of information a beinnger could be interested to kow.
WE could eventually alsomeet and i could shw you my instrumetns and let you play and we could discuss your issue in calm and in detail.
Wjat kind of Music you would like to start with,maybe mainly Folk ?
Question could be if to star with a 30 b or a 40 button insrument, if used or nw.
I have some expeience I could share with you.
Regards Joachim
After ga ving slept v r it, an after loooking to my colection of Concetinas, I see, I could, if you, let me a 3 button, cheap , b ut wiorki9ng concertina for some time to sart with it, alloin you t get a feelin you want to go further on.
t is called Tina, wood ended, C/G which I bught in Ireland. It is looking good and workig good, similr to the Wren models.
I have also Tutrs an CD an online nfo,I culdshar with you.
Let me kow it my offer could help you and give you some time o ake a lter mor definitve decsiion.
Regards JD
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7 hours ago, Bernhard said:
Hello everyone, I'm Bernhard from Munich.
I signed up for a new account today.I'm going to retire in a few days and have decided to learn a new instrument again. That should be good for the brain cells
I play a few instruments, but not all of them very well. Most of the time I only play simple folk songs and traditional songs and only for myself at home. So I'm not that big of a musical talent.
I want a concertina, probably an Anglo. I just wanted to ask which manufacturers offer usable beginners' concerts and which one should better stay away from.
- Are Mc Neela (Wren, Swan) Concertinas OK for a beginner?
- What is to be thought of Stagi?
- Are there any other manufacturers of usable entry-level concertinas?
- Here in Germany, 50 - 70 year old concertinas from the former GDR (Klingenthal) are often offered. What is to be made of it?
I would appreciate a few opinions.
Thanks and greetings from MunichHi Bernhard,
i am Joachim from Germany, living nearby Darmstadt.
If you would wish or like, i culd help you a bit, connecting you with the German Konzertina Forum, where you can find all kind of information a beinnger could be interested to kow.
WE could eventually alsomeet and i could shw you my instrumetns and let you play and we could discuss your issue in calm and in detail.
Wjat kind of Music you would like to start with,maybe mainly Folk ?
Question could be if to star with a 30 b or a 40 button insrument, if used or nw.
I have some expeience I could share with you.
Regards Joachim
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21 hours ago, paaudio said:
Great Find! Excellent variety and new names to look out for...
Thank you for sharing🙂
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On 8/3/2020 at 10:18 PM, LesleyH said:
This German concertina was in my late husband's family for around 100 years. Purchased from Guests in Exeter. Sadly, it now has no buttons and I think is not ecomic to repair. I am hoping that it might provide spare parts for someone who is repairing similar models. I am in Manchester, UK and can post at cost.
I guess, thjs one is not avalable any more.
Neverthelless please confirm.
I am rpairng old German Concertinas, and I could wel use your spares.
If any body hs to offer smeting like tis, plese inform to my mail addrss bamboomotion@gmx.de
Thanks
JD
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Thank you very much for your kind reply and nice foto of the 22 button concertina, I would say it is a Lachnal.
You helped with your information, you sent me years ago.
I shall try to try to realze such a modification, if i succedd postively, I may inform hjere.🙂
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19 minutes ago, Takayuki YAGI said:
I do not have inside photo currently. But I believe it has 22 button originally (not modified from 20 button) and have English type construction not German one.
Thank you very muhc for your reply and foto of Concertina.
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On 1/13/2020 at 12:20 AM, Pistachio Dreamer said:
Gosh, my ears have been burning! Thanks to Sunbeamer's post I was given the impetus to log back in, I've been very neglectful.
Couple of points in reply to the interest shown above 1. I've got a two year waiting list due to slow turnaround rather than anything else, as making concertinas isn't my full time job, however I do have a couple of commissions in the pipeline at the moment. 2. I haven't made over a hundred concertinas, I'm just going to end up having a cryptic numbering system a la Jeffries (well, I won't be emulating the sound anytime soon). I've actually made 6 for other people, other than my own experiments, all hybrids. I'm hoping to develop a new "hybrid reed", a discussion I may start elsewhere in the forum.
Plus I've settled on "Flying Duck Concertinas" as a name, as I don't only do Vegan instruments. I live near ponds.
Thanks for adding me, and thanks to Sunbeamer for showing off his new concertina, it was a pleasure to make. I should mention that the bellows are by the extremely talented Peter O'Connor.
Paul.
website: www.flyingduckconcertinas.co.uk
Helo Peter, I am searching for conact data to Peter OConnors from Ireladn
You may send me this data to bamboomotion@gmx.de
Thanks n advance.
By the way I listended the sound of your concertina on Youtube, liked it, bueatiful.
Regars JD
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MattA
have you tried to cntact me ?
I have been travelling ad could not attend my mail box, as I would hav e liked to do. and it semed t me that I have seen soeting, but cud find your message or ogically readit.
Pleae epeat and f want : here is my mail address:
bamboomoton@gmx.de
Regards
Joachim