MitfordRI
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I have posted some pictures on my blog http://edgleyconcertinas.blogspot.com of a very recently made concertina. It is rosewood, but has brown bellows. Please visit my blog and give me your opinion on them. Thanks.
It's beautiful, Frank!
Lucy
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btw - despite his rider at the bottom, there is no import duty within the EU and Eire is still on the euro and not back to the punt. But with his such regular high prices one might need to know if he is VAT registered as it is at 20 per cent for the UK and apparently 21 per cent for Eire.
So all I need now is £6000 BPS and I could ship the concertina to Mum and Dad's house in Dun Laoghaire ... Speaking of which, it doesn't matter that Ireland is on the euro vs. the 'punt' (which could go either way, I.e., English punt vs. Irish punt.). In fairness, Ireland and England haven't shared the same currency since I was a child. Even before the Euro, the Irish pound and BPS had an exchange rate.
re: VAT. Depends on whether the Irish customer is also VAT registered.
Memo to me: Buy lottery ticket tomorrow. Preferably in BPS. :-) And even if I won, this concertina would be so far out of my ability-reach that it would be a shame for me to have it. But I love the idea.
Lucy
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Thanks to everyone for their really helpful comments. As a result of another discussion, I am going to organise a Skype lesson with Jody in January and see how we go on from there.
In the meantime, I have been trying to provide a recording of the type of music that I want to play and a sample of where I am with it now.
The following tune is a favourite of mine and I can generally play it all the way through without mistake - having taken to heart the idea of forming patterns which cleared up a recurring difficulty I had in the middle. However, trying to record a clean copy with Garageband has been extremely frustrating.
This recording has a few fluffs in it but is the best out of about 100 tries!
So here goes. Kind comments only on http://bit.ly/s5pRc1
Long Haired David
Dear David:
Happy New Year and I hope the practice is going well despite all the holiday interruptions. I have to say that I'm dead impressed you recorded your playing. Good for you. I know exactly what you mean about trying to "record a clean copy". I can practice a jig all week long on the fiddle. But when it comes to Thursday night class, if I don't have a warm up first, my nerves are so bad you might honestly think I'm trying to murder the poor fiddle. That or my teacher. Fortunately, he has cottoned on to my anxiety and makes me play easy pieces until I relax. (Honestly, a gin would work better but there is always the drive home to consider.)
What I have learned from studying Irish traditional music in the past five years is ... admittedly not much. Shockingly little in fact. But I'm happy to share the few crumbs I have learned.
1) Learning from books alone doesn't work.
2) Learning from sheet music ... doesn't teach you how to play music. At least not for me. I was trained on piano so could read sheet music fluently. But relying on sheet music instead of learning by ear handicapped me very badly. I knew the notes. Knew where they were located on the instrument. But wasn't (and still might not be) playing 'music'. Not traditional music.
3) Learning to play by ear ... while painful at the beginning (think Mission Impossible in my case) ... really does help you to not only learn music more efficiently, it improves your playing.
4) If you can find a class or teacher near by, take lessons from a sympathetic and supportive teacher. Chris Stevens is a great teacher in New England. Sadly, I haven't been able to attend his classes in Boston in a couple of years (because I wasn't able to learn by ear the last time I took his class) but hope to in the spring. But even studying with my fiddle teacher gives me a better understanding of playing trad music on the concertina. I am amazed by how much I learn from regular weekly classes with Jimmy and how much of it applies to concertina as well as fiddle. Also ... meeting with a teacher one a week or even twice a month sets a deadline for new tunes, new skills etc.
Best of luck with the practice and happy new year,
Lucy
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speaking of which, i'm still accepting donations for the "david doesn't own an english concertina" fund. checks, paypal, and wheatstones accepted.
This would be the perfect place for a LIKE button. :-)
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It is with great sadness that I report the death of Michael Reid, my former bandmate, Northeast Squeeze-In roomie and good friend.
Michael was one of concertina.net's earliest participants, and before that active in rec.music.squeezebox.
When we started playing together in a dance band he was an outstanding English concertina player. When he moved away I missed the sound so much that I began pursuing concertina more seriously myself. In a very real sense it was Michael who inspired me to make the concertina my primary instrument.
After moving to Colorado, Michael plunged into Irish music with his customary energy and intense focus, first learning Irish melodeon and then turning to Anglo. He attended several Noel Hill schools and became even more proficient on Anglo than he was on English, which tells you something about his musical abilities. He was a mainstay of the Boulder Irish session scene.
He'll be missed.
What a lovely tribute to a good friend.
Lucy
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**Like!** I want an original CD just for #8, Mazel. Will PM you. Beautiful recording.
Lucy
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Helle all.
I'm just embarking on making my first instrument, a 3 row anglo. I've nearly finished the bellows (I figured I'd start with one of the hard bits first). I have been using hide glue, with all its accompanying smells and difficulties. I've now started thinking, my wife's vegetarian, my daughter's vegetarian, I'm hovering on the brink of being vegetarian, my workshop's in the house and this stuff stinks! Does anyone know of any serious, sophisticated 21st century adhesives that would do the job (I don't mean PVA!)
Are Aliphatics too rigid? Does Cascamite, which is an extremely brittle glue, like hide glue, behave in the same way? What about modified polymers? Any ideas? I'm starting to see the faces of the terrified animals as they file into the abbatoir!
Thanks
Andy.
Dear Andy:
Have you considered what bookbinders call a 'mix'? PVA is terrifically handy for building boxes because it sets quickly, is relatively flexible and is very strong. But ... it stains/alters leather, sets too quickly for leather work, and doesn't 'breath'. Wheat paste was used for generations in bookbinding. Currently, rice paste is preferred (in some circles). But for maximum flexibility, working time, lack of toxicity and ease of use, you would be hard pressed to improve on 'mix'. Loosely speaking, 'mix' is 55% PVA / 45% paste (either wheat or rice). But there are plenty of variations (not to mention opinions) in either direction. Some people think you should never ever go over 40% paste. Some of us play with 50/50 or even (gasp) 40/60 proportions. And the world hasn't ended. Yet.
Paste can be mixed in small proportions in either a pot on the cooker or in the microwave. It has a very definite shelf life and so does the mix when mixed with PVA. So only make as much as you need. (Unless you are fond of culturing green furry growths.) But it is inexpensive, vegetarian and very non-smelly.
Where are you located? I would be happy to send you 1/2 cup of both wheat and rice starch with preparation instructions if you like.
Let me know,
Lucy in Rhode Island
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I have just posted pictures of two newly made concertinas, one destined for Moscow, Russia, and one which will be sent to Rhode Island. Please check out my blog at http://edgleyconcertinas.blogspot.com .
As I posted elsewhere a few moments ago, I am the owner of the very beautiful ebony and curly maple concertina on Frank's blog. To anyone who is struggling with which concertina to buy, I can't recommend my experience with Frank enough. He is endlessly patient, generous with his time and stays in communication throughout the process. I.e., after the reed pans were finished, Frank sent me an email telling me the concertina was ready to be assembled. After it was assembled, he sent me an email to let me know he was fine-tuning the tuning. When I asked for my concertina to be "special" (go ahead, roll your eyes - I would), he called me to discuss wood choices and offered to 'cap' the handles in the curly maple. My only regret is that the photographs on his blog don't show the handles so you can't see how very beautiful this concertina is.
The craftsmanship is truly beautiful. I expected Frank's woodworking to be beautiful as he taught woodworking for many years. But I was even impressed by his leather work. My other hobbies are letterpress printing and leather bookbinding. So I am fussy about leather work and skiving.
The concertina has an absolutely gorgeous mellow sound, which was exactly what I had requested. In other words, Frank will not only build a concertina out of different woods at the purchaser's request. He will also explain how the various woods affect tone and then he will tweak the reeds (to the extent possible) to produce the tone desired by the player.
The concertina plays like a dream. Despite being straight of the box new, the bellows are supple and respond quickly. I had expected that the bellows in particular would need a breaking in period. But I can see that the Edgley really isn't going to need a break in period at all. The button action is incredibly quiet! And, as expected with an Edgley concertina, the reed response is superb.
All in all, I can't recommend either Frank Edgley or his beautiful concertinas enough. He is a wonderful man who makes very beautiful instruments. And he doesn't charge for emails or phone calls. But maybe he should ... :-)
Thank you so much Frank,
Lucy Maddock
Rhode Island
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re "hybrids" playing as responsively and fast as concertina-reeded instruments and differing only as to sound: i disagree. unfortunately, most of the hybrids do not respond and play as fast as suttners, dippers, or well-functioning, good quality vintage concertinas. some do. but some do not. in one it is a matter of slow, resistive reed response, in another, it is slow post-and-lever action, in another it's stuffy air delivery....etc, etc. i greatly regret my hybrid purchases. once you hit $1700.00 and up into the two-thousands, they DO need to be as fast and responsive as concertina-reeded instruments, and most. are. not.
Dear Ceemonster:
I'm not sure when you went off your hybrids because in reading previous posts, you were quite enthusiastic about your Morse only a couple of years ago.
I have a five-year old Morse and a three day old Edgley. I have been delighted by both and don't regret either purchase for a moment. What I appreciated most about the Morse when I bought it was the ability to drive to the shop, try out the various concertinas, rent a Stagi (amazing anyone sticks with concertinas after 3-4 months on a Stagi) and play a reasonably priced proper instrument within a six month period. Doug at the Button Box was kind and welcoming and didn't make me feel like an ass for wanting to take up a new instrument in my 30s. I have enjoyed every minute on the Morse and would enthusiastically recommend the Button Box to anyone.
That said, I can not rave about my new Edgley enough. Frank is an absolute treat of a gentleman. He answered every email patiently and at length. He called me to talk about my requests. He very kindly built my concertina with custom selected woods (ebony and curly maple). He tweaked the tone because I told him I prefer a mellow, pure tone over a honking sound. It arrived at my office on Friday and the entire staff admired it not only for its beauty but for its absolutely gorgeous voice. It plays like a dream.
I would be **very** surprised if you were unable to play this Edgley as fast as you like. But I would also add that speed isn't the main driver in what makes music appealing. Musicality is.
Lucy Maddock
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If there was a Like button I'd click it!
Ditto!
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I have just posted pictures of two newly made concertinas, one destined for Moscow, Russia, and one which will be sent to Rhode Island. Please check out my blog at http://edgleyconcertinas.blogspot.com .
Frank, the ebony concertina is just gorgeous!! Can't wait to play it later this week. Color me thrilled!!
Lucy
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I will be posting new blogs today at http://edgleyconcertinas.blogspot.com . Visit the site after noon today to see what's new.
There are quite a few new things on the blog -----
- A newly finished concertina with unique appearance,and
- New fabric choices for cases, and
- Concertinas available soon.
The ebony concertina is absolutely stunning, Frank. Really beautiful.
Lucy
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Did I hear that you have ordered a Rochelle? If so, perhaps you'd share your decision with us...
So I have purchased a first generation Rochelle
unseen from a member of this forum
halfway across the continent
(isn't the internet a wonderful thing?).
I'll post a review when I've had the chance to play with it a bit.
Have you received the Rochelle yet? There is another first generation for sale on the forums and someone else might be interested in a review.
Cheers,
Lucy
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Something to make you smile.
The moral ,you are only as good as your last performance
Al
As they say on Crackbook, LIKE!! Very good. Reminds me of a Parrot joke I used to love.
Lucy
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Hi Lucy
This is the part that got my attention in the three descriptions:
This arrangement of the famous aria was made for the instrument known as an 'English concertina'. I am playing it here on melodica, as a fun contribution to this channel. Incidentally, the named arranger 'Faulkner Brandon'......
How about that! Concertina music.
Thanks
Leo
How about these?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hK0kUwrVIA&feature=related
Lucy
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Something a little different from the UK. Read the description
Bizet ( arr: Faulkner Brandon ) : Toréador's Song , from ' Carmen '
I confess I've never seen a melodica before. This makes playing a concertina look ... normal. 
Thanks. I really enjoyed all your links.Lucy
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p.s. The schmuck who sent me the scam offer need not write to me again.
Ha ha ha ha!!!! Sorry. I just love the word schmuck and it's used beautifully here. Good luck with the sale!
Lucy
P.S. Include a link when you finish listing the concertina on eBay.
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He also buys, waits until the last minute and then gives spurious negative feedback to damage other seller's reputations. Barking mad may be right!
Wow!! It is a lazy Saturday here so I went to ebay and pulled up all his feedback. Some of it is spectacularly mean spirited. Entertaining, but not nice.
Lucy
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYzFIvuFh1U
Ein Lanu Z'man performing Mitachalat Lashamaiyim (Under the Sky) by David Broza & Meir Ariel.
Hazzan Elisheva Deinstfrey -Vocals/Guitar, Rebbecca Pohl(Guest Artist)-Vocals, Kevin Danna-Percussion/Guitar, Dan Gordon-Violin/Vocals, Julia Moline-Vocals/Mandolin/Viola,Vic Tynes-Bass, Rachel Hamberger-Vocals, Rich Albert-Guitar/ Vocals, Randy Stein-English Concertina.
In Concert Aug 26th, 2011
I love your "Fly Me to the Moon" video!
Lucy
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There is a very pretty Maccann Duet for sale on Ebay.
Lucy
The cups runneth over!
L
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There is a very pretty Maccann Duet for sale on Ebay.
Lucy
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Once a lady who is my friend told me how bad it was when I was done playing. As a friend I told her she could at least offer me some encouragement and she told me "OK, I encourage you to go home and practice".
Richard
Thank you! You just made my (rather late) night.
I'm not sure who is funnier, you or her. But credit to you for a terrific story. Long may you tell it!Lucy
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Then as I was about to play my final song a guy came up and said (quoted exactly) "That is the most obnoxious crap I've ever been forced to listen to."
Given that you were in a hospital setting, I wouldn't rule out an Axis II issue ...
But even if it were a personality disorder, a comment that unkind would still upset most people. You handled it well. And talking about it here is a rational response.
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Meaning, "Please help us get this crap out of our warehouse! We'll pay you." :-)
Interestingly, while the Hohner accordions command much higher prices than their concertinas, even the Button Box is discounting the Hohners from list price. Has there been a recent spectacular drop in quality? Or are the list prices just ridiculously inflated?
And are any Hohner's still manufactured in Germany? Or has everything been outsourced to China?
Lucy
P.S. As the mother of Chinese children, I am a big fan of "made in China" ... but not when it comes to concertinas.
Multi Instrumentalists Among Our Ranks
in General Concertina Discussion
Posted
A late entry here.
Concertina, badly. Fiddle, even worse. And we keep tin whistles and recorders all over the house. We also have a Steinway B that is my husband's first love. He and #2 play piano. #1 sings only, but with a voice like hers who needs another instrument. #3 and 1 ... we like the fiddle and concertina. She is the only one of the 3 who immediately requests ITM in the car.
My husband is the real musician. Mind you, he is the same person who thinks that Prokoviev is fun car music. But he is kind enough to keep telling me that everyone should play music. However terrifically badly. :-)
I grew up playing classical piano. Transitioned to clarinet, but always wanted to play violin (but really fiddle). Was told it was much too hard. Gave up instruments entirely for 20 years. And then fell in love with the concertina at a party at my aunt and uncle's house. My aunt's best friend plays a Lachenal. It was like being struck by a thunder bolt. Like first love with all the attendant feelings of thrill, excitement, and insecurity. So I signed up for classes in Boston with my rented Stagi.
Unfortunately, having grown up 'paper trained', I had no ability to learn music by ear. You can imagine how frustrating classes in ITM at the comhaltas in Boston were for someone who could only do music by "dots". I took a couple of years off (life got busy). But decided that if I was going to stick with the concertina, I would just have to buckle down and learn music by ear. And I did. I wouldn't say I'm brilliant at it. But, I have finally gotten to the point where most of the time, it's a lot quicker and easier to learn by ear than look up the sheet music. I practice 3-8 hours a week depending on the week. But, sometimes I can only practice one instrument.
re: 10,000 hours for proficiency. I will have to win powerball first.
Lucy