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I've enjoyed your recent postings! In this one I also enjoyed the cat padding by like a strolling waiter in your pub. Thanks!
Joe Bartl
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Per the second to last reply (by Daniel Hersh) in the recent "Bandoneon" thread in this same forum:
"You have a Carlsfelder - I can tell because it has three long rows of buttons on each side, unlike a bandonion or Chemnitzer. The three systems have different button layouts. This may be helpful: https://www.bandonionverein-carlsfeld.de/index.php/2-uncategorised/22-heinrich-band . Take a look at this too: https://www.musikwissenschaft.uni-wuerzburg.de/musikinstrumente/organologie/doku/konzertina/ ."
Really, that a look at that thread!
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Dynamite! Thanks!
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This may be a case of "imprinting": The first concertina videos I listened to on Youtube were of Soloduet on his Wicki Hayden concertina. That particular sound has embedded in my brain as the ideal. I realize that what I hear is partially a product of soloduet's wonderful performance strengths and of the microphones he uses, sound processing, etc. Still, I have to ask, what is that concertina make and specs? Thanks for any help you can provide.
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This may be a naive question, but duet tutors are rare enough that I have to ask: How dependent would this tutor be on the specific layout of the Wicki/Hayden Duet? Are duet concertina performance issues similar enough from one duet layout to another that this tutor would be relevant for a Maccann?
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A melophone?!?!? Goodness! Tuned in fifths (like my mandolin) and it even has a scrolled headstock. I must have one!
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Ran across this just now and thought I'd share my chuckles:
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Lovely sound, a bit mellower than bandoneón. How I admire the intimate control regardless of whichever instrument is in your hands! Am I correct understanding that, unlike a bandoneón, the buttons are not diatonic?
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Thanks, Stephen Chambers. Up close and personal, I can see that the questionable number is definitely a "0". So that places this at the beginning of 1923. This will be a fun little instrument to get acquainted with. Thanks, again.
Joe Bartl
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Recently purchased from the Buy & Sell Forum a Lachenal 35 button Crane Duet. This was restored by Greg Jowaisas some time ago and seems to be in good shape but for a bellows leak of some kind (it drifts open if held up by one end). In any case, I'm wondering about its age and hope someone on this thread will enlighten me. The serial number would appear to be something like 4066 (can that be right?) Thanks for any light you can shed on this.
-- Joe Bartl
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Exquisite! (as I've come to expect with RS at the buttons).
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Trying to play a couple of soloduet's arrangements but I am using a 67 button Maccann duet whose lowest note is the bottom of the bass clef. I know that an 81 button duet will dip below the bass clef. Are there other concertinas (other than bass concertinas) that go as low as the C below the bass clef? Thanks for your help.
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If you'd be kind enough to post the score, I'd very much like to give this something more than a try. I have to say, soloduet, that in addition to your masterful musicianship, I've admired the sound of your particular instrument from the moment I first heard you play Roslin Castle ... and this sound played no small part in getting me to dive into the concertina realm.
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I've been learning concertina on a 67-button MacCann duet for a couple of months. The most frustrating thing for me right now is knowing where my fingers are in relation to the buttons. Everything is fine when I start out, but the minute things get complicated or I lose my place, suddenly my fingers are lost and desperately groping and stabbing to find the right button. On the piano, it only takes a glance at the keyboard and all is well. With buttons facing away on both sides of the instrument, I'm at sea. To imitate Jody Kruskal's juxtapositions for a moment:
This
turns into 
Any suggestions you might offer would be gratefully received!
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SEMPER Dowland, indeed! Thanks.
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Ah, ha! Finally, the punch line!
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5 hours ago, David Barnert said:
I would say that’s more valuable than seeing a “cheat sheet.”
I couldn't agree more! Thanks for taking the time to write this out.
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Everything about the sound of this is perfect: your playing, the rich tone of the instrument, the acoustics, and the tune itself precisely geared to take advantage of all the preceding. For me, this is the ideal sound. Not sure that I'll ever have the instrument or the ability to sound like this ... but it is something to strive for. Thanks.
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Wonderful, David! Could you be tempted to share a score of your arrangement so I can play it on my own Wheatstone Duet?
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1 hour ago, Ken_Coles said:
the original golden age was late 19th century up to the 1920s
The same timeframe is designated as the golden age for mandolins. What was it about that period? More free time? Fewer distractions? An appreciation for music making as a social (vs. commercial) activity?
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Or, in lookiing for some kind of A-Z direcrtory, am I just being a wuss who doesn't want to spend time researching every mysterious term, acronym, shortrcut reference? Please feel free to say so.
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Thanks for your responses and suggestions. It seems I did not clearly express what I am trying to learn. Let me try a different approach.
When I look, for instance, at the Buying/Selling forum, I see things like this: "Marcus 30b c/g in Jeffries". Now, to demystify this would mean to say: "Marcus" = brand ; 30b = "30 buttons" ; c/g this concertina is set up to play only in keys C & G, so that, for instance, you will not find a button for B-flat ; "Jeffries" is the layout of the buttons/notes. I think this is all correct, but it doesn't say English or Anglo (I know it is not a duet since it specifies playable keys). Is there something here that tells me it is one or the other? Does the c/g specification mean that this is an Anglo? Are English never so specified? Does the "Jeffries" indicate that this is an Anglo? Is there not a Jeffries layout for English concertinas?
So, if I then look at this: "AC Norman, 32 button, C/G Wheatstone layout", the "Wheatstone" does not tell me what type or concertina this is, but does the "C/G" tell me that this is an Anglo?
"ESB Baritone C/G" -- is this an Anglo with scales an octave lower than a "normal" (?) Anglo?
What is a Crane edeophone, aeola?
Does "Crane or James Anglo" refer to button layouts or to brand names?
Etc.
Some of the listing text provides answers for the specific instrument, yes, but not always and rarely addresses the broader questions.
Again, I appreciate your help in all of this.
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I am new to the concertina world (I’ll probably use that preface for the next couple of years). As I look through the various forums here I am often left scratching my head over what exactly the specific concertina being discussed might be. I know the major difference between Anglo and English, but beyond that I am mostly lost. I know that duets come in various configurations, but am otherwise at sea. Is there some reference source that details the flora and fauna of this forest from Kingdom thru Species? Thanks for any help you can provide.
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I am a retired guy living mid-way between Washington, DC and Baltimore. I share my quarters with a recently acquired 67 button Maccann duet. I've been giving myself lessons from the Rutterford method. While this is good as far as it goes (and I'm not far into it), there are questions I have that a couple/three/four sessions with a teacher/player might clarify. Is there a teacher/player in my area who I can contact? Thanks for your help! -- Joe Bartl
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