mthatcher61

I have been trying to learn Mrs. Crotty's version of The Wind That Shakes The Barley. She plays it in G. I plugged it into Audactiy and slowed it down by 25% saved that as 'WTSB Med' and then slowed that version down another 25% for 'WTSB Slow'. For some strange reason when I slowed it down with Audacity it ended up in D which is what everyone else plays it in. That was a bonus. Dont know how I did it but its a bonus. The med and regular versions are both in G. Weird. So I started learning it in the slowest version which was in D and it wasnt a big problem. When I was ready to move to the next faster version I noticed it was now in G. Oh well, so I learned it at that speed in D and G. I figure the more keys I can play it in the better. Today I moved it down the circle and learned it in C. All of a sudden a light went off in my head. In C it lays out nicely in the C Home row. I I was playing it in G 'across' the rows, so now I just copied what I was doing on the C row and kept the tune all on the G row. Now I can fumble through the home row and across the rows. My question to the the people who actuallly know what they are doing, vice me who is just sort of stumbling through the dark and trying to learn my way by feel, how does Mrs Crotty actually play it? Does she play cross the rows or does she play strictly on the G row?

I would be interested as well. I assume, and am (hopefully) glad to hear you beat the big C. Another retired sailor only living in Ct.

Sorry guys, I havent recieved any notices about these inquiry's. I just found out people have been asking about the Jones. I have sent pm's.

Sorry Adam. it's long gone. Mark

Sorry, it's gone. [

Price for the Tedrow is reduced to $1250 shipped to the continental United States.

in addition to the Tedrow I also have an old Jones 26k C/G with brass reeds that has been totally reconditiioned by Greg Jowaisas. Asking for $1000.00 Not as loud as the Tedrow but very sweet. Also has a blocked Button Box hard case. Whichever goes first I'll keep the other. Thanks

I also have an old Jones 26k C/G with brass reeds that has been totally reconditiioned by Greg Jowaisas. Asking for $1000.00 Not as loud as the Tedrow but very sweet. Whichever goes first I'll keep the other. Thanks

That looks pretty fab to me. I would guess that it is a Rosewood Lachenal, probably steel reeded, that was sold with the music stores name on it. I'll bet there are a few people watching that, just waiting to pounce.

I would say the condition is great. You can verify this with Bob Tedrow. He saw it a couple of months ago for a sticking valve that he checked out and fixed. It is a great loud. quick concertina that I am regretfully having to sell because I need the money.

Standard Tedrow 30 button C/G Anglo Concertina built in 2006 with a blocked Button Box hard case. $1500.00 shipped. Price now reduced to $1250 shipped to the continental United States.

I believe it is pronounced 'Jillen's Apples'.

What started my question was an advert with Lark In The Morning for John Townley's Video Tutorial. I was wondering if there was a different 'style' for anglo other than Emglish or Irish. I'm still trying to nuke out my own style. I googled Townley and found his website. Quite a renaissance man. Astrologist, writer, seaman, musician, producer, poet, historian. http://www.astrococktail.com/sailor.html On the above page there are a bunch of Nautical themed tunes. 'Strike The Bell' has him singing and playing Concertina. I will assume this is the aforementioned 'style'.

Thats what I was referring to , the Townley Video. If it is only a rehash of English style accompanyment, then I'll stick with Alan Day's. Thanks.

What is nautical style playing on a C/G Anglo? Is it like Morris/English style or Irish style or is it something entirely different? Are there any videos or recording so I can check out what it sounds like? Thanks

So, if in C scale, you sing and find Do- Mi- Sol (1st, 3rd, 5th = C, E, G) then Bingo! You got yourself a C chord So, if in C scale, you sing and find Re- Fa- La (2nd, 4th, 6th = D, F, A) then Bingo! You got yourself a Dm chord So, if in C scale, you sing and find Mi- Sol- Ti (3rd, 5th, 7th = E, G, then Bingo! You got yourself a Em chord So, if in C scale, you sing and find Fa- La- Do (4th, 6th, 1st = F, A, C) then Bingo! You got yourself a F chord So, if in C scale, you sing and find Sol- Ti- Re (5th, 7th, 2nd = G, B, D) then Bingo! You got yourself a G chord So, if in C scale, you sing and find La- Do- Mi (6th, 1st, 3rd = A, C, E) then Bingo! You got yourself a Am chord So, if in C scale, you sing and find Ti- Re- Fa (7th, 2nd, 4th = B,D, F) then Bingo! You got yourself a B#dim chord So, if in C scale, you sing and find Do- Mi- Sol (1st, 3rd, 5th = C, E, G) then Bingo! You got yourself a C chord Octave style! Thank you very very much for this post. It made a lot of sense to me. It may be easier than I thought. I play chords on melodeon using both rows at the same time. So now I am going ( with Henk van Aalten's help) going to give this a go on 30 key concertina. I have saved this post to a word document. Thanks again. Jock Your very welcome Jock. I'm glad you find it useful. It's an exercise I learned from an ear training course by Matt Glaser. It really seems to explain a lot of practical music theory (at least to me) in one quick lesson. I've used this approach on guitar, mandolin, fiddle and now concertina. It is helping me immensly on the concertina. I have a 30 key C/G and am currently applying it in the key of D. It is fun.

When I am trying to play my Anglo whilst standing up, it wants to bottom out. The two faces will not stay perpendicular. The only thing I can think to remedy this is to support the lower parts of the faces with my pinky, but then, I lose two perfectly good digits to press and pull with. Are my straps too loose?

If you really want to find chords on the concertina then your going to have to mess around with your concertina First off, the charts and diagrams dont usually give you the best chord. They may give you a quick down and dirty but if you just experiment with the concertina you'll find better ones for the particular situation/song your in. To find chords start low and do your Do, Re mi's. Remember chords are 1st 3rd and 5th. In the C scale (Outside Row) : Do = C, Re = D, Mi = E, Fa = F, Sol = G, La = A,Tti = B, Do = C In the G scale (Inside Row) : Do = G, Re = A, Mi = B, Fa = C, Sol = D, La = E, Ti = F#, Do = G So, if in C scale, you sing and find Do- Mi- Sol (1st, 3rd, 5th = C, E, G) then Bingo! You got yourself a C chord So, if in C scale, you sing and find Re- Fa- La (2nd, 4th, 6th = D, F, A) then Bingo! You got yourself a Dm chord So, if in C scale, you sing and find Mi- Sol- Ti (3rd, 5th, 7th = E, G, then Bingo! You got yourself a Em chord So, if in C scale, you sing and find Fa- La- Do (4th, 6th, 1st = F, A, C) then Bingo! You got yourself a F chord So, if in C scale, you sing and find Sol- Ti- Re (5th, 7th, 2nd = G, B, D) then Bingo! You got yourself a G chord So, if in C scale, you sing and find La- Do- Mi (6th, 1st, 3rd = A, C, E) then Bingo! You got yourself a Am chord So, if in C scale, you sing and find Ti- Re- Fa (7th, 2nd, 4th = B,D, F) then Bingo! You got yourself a B#dim chord So, if in C scale, you sing and find Do- Mi- Sol (1st, 3rd, 5th = C, E, G) then Bingo! You got yourself a C chord Octave style! Can you see the pattern? Hint: look up and down as well as left to right. Thats all the chords in C you'll ever need. Unless you want to flat the 7th to get the bluesy rocky type '7th chords. Warning: with Anglos some notes are on the pull and some on the push, You may have to settle for a 2 note chord on a specific pull or push. Don't worry , it's all good. Do it going up from the lowest button on the concertina (The Left hand end button pushed with the with the Pinky And go all the way up to the highest note played with the Pinky. Hint, Sing the chords while you search for them. The first couple of times through it's a puzzle, but once you get through it your going to find everything. Then it will be fun and actually sound pretty cool. I believe its called arpeggio's. This exercise pretty much burns the scale, chords and notes into your brain and fingers. This is a great exercise on guitar too, any instrument for that matter.

Good Job. I play 'Off to California' into 'Bonaparte Crossing the Rhine 'as well. I learned it from a Peter Cooper Irish Fiddle Tutor. Are these two tunes usually played together?

John, You have good reason to be 'stoked'! Very cool concertina. Nice playing too.

I think that is so cool! I love it. Bob, you have come up with some great color schemes and this one is right up there with the best of them. The gold tooling and the red felt bushings really set it off as well.

I'll second that Wo Hoo! Put me down for one as well please Frank. Frank's book with accompanying CD is great, can't wait to see the DVD. Is it a Homespun Tapes production or are you doing it yourself? Mark

If you are an aural learner then I would reccomend getting fiddle tutorial's. I have been having a great time with Peter Cooper's Mel Bay's Complete Irish Fiddler book/CD, and any of the Kevin Burke books/CD's/DVD's. It's the tunes you want and as for the techniques like cuts, roll's, cran's, the idiosyncracy's of different rythyms like Jigs, Polka's, Reel's, Mazurka's, Slide's etc you can get them all from there. Great repertois builders too. I would imagine that some of the Tin Whistle tutor's would be pretty easy as well. For some reason it is easier for me to copy a different instrument on the concertina than it is to copy another concertina. The thing about the tutorial cd's is they play them slower, Kevin Burke really breaks the tunes down phrase by phrase. If there are things that are applicable ony to fiddle, discard it like the chaff it is and just move on with the tune. Good luck in your trip to the Cape. That's God's country for trad music. A remote part? An old lighthouse on Cape Breton would be heaven for me. As a matter of fact they have Cranford Publishing up there that puts out lots of good trad music and books. No matter how remote you should find some really good players to have fun with. Good luck.

Anybody play it? I used to on guitar about a hundred years ago. Something made me look it up today and I had forgotten all about the 2nd verse..... Stoney - JJW G Em Am D G Em Am D I first ran into Stoney in a bar downtown G Em Am D Was Richmond Virginia - we were bumming’ around C D G Em Suitcase to suitcase; we started in talkin’ G Em Am D G Em Am D Findin’ out about the things we learned - and the times we’d been He had a grey pillowcase full of books by Durell He had this old concertina - all beat up - played like hell Until you got him started singing them Gospel songs We drank all night for nothing - told us stories till dawn Well, what do you know, one of the greatest Texas Singer Song Writers sang about an old drunk who played Concertina. that is just too cool!

Thanks for all the advice guys. Reading up on it, yeah the pad sounds like it might be the culprit. I have checked the keys and they all seem to be at the right (same) height. I have been contacted by Bob hopefully he can help me out. Dana's advice about turning to the maker first was probably best but I know Bob is a busy guy. I dont mind sending up a flag for help and if someone see's it and has the time to offer advice then great. I just didnt want to bother Bob yet till I saw If I could fix it myself, but I will feel better after I talk to him.