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  1. Hey Alex, thanks for the reply. I'm near Edinburgh jusnow, but I have family I visit in Aberdeen, so Stonehaven is definitely on the table. I think I need to start looking more into APJ concertinas. Thanks for the suggestion of the Dabbler, I had not found it in my research, however the wait time of 16 months means it'll be a no for me. I really want something soon, as I'm getting fed up with the feel of the Scarlatti XD Those Marcus Music concertinas also look very nice, I shall have to look more into their sound and playability too. Same with Andrew Norman, I'll look into what there is for sale.
  2. Hello everyone! I've been playing concertina for over a year now (started in April 2021), and have been playing with a cheap Scarlatti 30 button C/G concertina. You gotta start somewhere, and I'm at the point now where I really feel I need an upgrade. I'm looking for an anglo concertina, C/G, wheatstone, that is of high quality and playability - not the best money can buy, but good enough for an intermediate player to improve with for I'd say at least 2 years. I am also looking for a concertina I can get fairly soon. I am not looking for a 2 year order time, I am looking for something I can get in a month or two at the latest. The issue I'm having is with looking at what concertina's are available in the UK, and from where. I have been doing my due diligence in these forums to find out what concertina's folk recommend to advance into, and I have come up with this short list of suggestions: Concertina Connection Clover - Seems to be available through their website. Is an American make, and seems difficult to find available in the UK. Concertina Connection Minstrel - More budget friendly than the Clover, but same issue of trying to obtain one in the UK. Also looks like folk recommend the Clover if they're both in budget. Morse Ceili - Seems I missed this one by a month or two; the Button Box store seems to have closed. Similar to the Clover, seems to be an American make that I cannot find in the UK. McNeela Phoenix - This seems to be the easiest to get delivered (just over in Ireland), and seems to be the most budget friendly of these 3, but also seems to have mainly negative feedback when I've been searching for it in the forums (here, here, and here. I have been having a hard time also finding places to buy Concertina's from. I originally bought my Scarlatti from Red Cow Music, however their inventory seems to mainly be introductory concertina's. They have a page for the Minstrel, but I think it's been "out of stock" for over a year, since I bought my first concertina from them. Otherwise I've found it difficult to find anywhere in the UK. There's: Barleycorn Concertinas, but you're at the mercy of what they have in stock. McNeela Music, but they don't stock much other than their own concertinas. The Box Place, but again, you're at the mercy of what they have. I also unsure about second hand, a lot of the prices seem to be quite high, and there's makes and manufacturers that I haven't heard of an don't know of quality; I'm not looking for a bit of history right now, I might be in the future, but I just need a competent instrument. eBay and Gumtree, although looking on here there's all sorts of warnings of scams, so I wanna avoid if I can. Hobgoblin, seems to be introductory concertina's, or second hand much older instruments. They seem to have an Anthony James concertina on sale; I assume new, maybe it's a retailer for his concertinas, would folk recommend this? (http://www.apjmusic.co.uk/) Basically, I'm in a pickle. Looking for something to move into, finding a bunch of recommended instruments, but not finding anywhere in the UK to purchase them. The only one I can find I am getting some bad signals as to it's quality (the McNeela Phoenix). If anyone in the UK can give any advice to what I should be looking at for my next instrument, and where to buy it from, I would very much appreciate it. If you read this far, thank you very much for taking the time to try and help, even if you can't Martin TL;DR Are there any intermediate concertina makes that are available in the UK?
  3. Hello everyone, I am looking at arranging a song from my childhood; the old Blue Peter theme song (also known as Barnacle Bill, it seems). As well as being a maritime signal flag, Blue Peter is a children's TV show in the UK that has been running since 1958. It has a tune that shares some similarities with the Sailor's Hornpipe. Here is a link I am using to help me arrange the song: The song starts with an intro of Sailor's Hornpipe, and then waterfalls the notes down until it starts a different, albeit similar tune. I am wondering, before I start trying to arrange this tune, does anyone recognise this tune and does any sheet music exist for this already? I had a quick search of the forums here for "Blue Peter" and "Barnacle Bill", but to no avail. Perhaps it is known under a different name? If not, I shall endeavour to arrange it and share it once I'm done. Martin
  4. Hello again everyone, Been a little while away from the forums. Thought I'd share my arrangement of Little One by Beck Hansen, which is a haunting lullaby sounding song. The song is in the key of E, so was fairly tricky to get working on the ol' concertina; I could not get much harmony with the C# chords. The Ds in bar 3 also sound off with the C#/C chords, but I believe they are correct with the song (as I hear it). Here's a link to the MuseScore page for the sheet music I arranged: https://musescore.com/user/37659330/scores/8001191 And here's a link to a recording of me playing the song: As always, using Gary's tablature system (without permission I might add). Buy his books if for some reason you haven't already. Have a good day, Martin Little_One_Beck_Hansen.pdf
  5. Hey man, that lead sheet is really great. I just managed to get a very slow, clunky rendition of the tune going in no time. Thanks a lot for sharing it. Martin
  6. The original song can be found here: https://youtu.be/Yeh1S_kl8YI Martin
  7. Hello again, Been working on an arrangement for Joli Rouge by The Dreadnoughts. Used this resource as my staring point, but had to change the key and some of the chords to make it fit better on my C/G concertina. A link to the Musescore page for the sheet music can found here: https://musescore.com/user/37659330/scores/7233075 As always big shout out to the G-Meister (Gary Coover) for his tablature system and books. Slowly working though his Christmas tunes book jusnow. This time around I have added a recording of me playing the song - albeit, poorly. Am still learning it, so it's not the best, but I was keen to share with you all. I thought the image was appropriate, as it is the entry level concertina I am currently using XD Have a good day, Martin TheDreadnoughts_JoliRouge_Dm.pdf
  8. Thanks guys. Concertina Joel reached out to me, and he had now added a link to the MuseScore page on his YouTube video. I feel proper chuffed
  9. I recently picked up Gary Coover's Christmas book, would recommend 👍
  10. Hello all, hope you're all doing well. A while ago I saw a YouTube video of someone playing an amazing arrangement of Maiden Voyage from Sea of Thieves. I noticed that there was no sheet music available for the dude's arrangement, and seeing from the video's comments that no sheet music was being made, I decided to do the arduous task of playing the video at 0.25x speed, watching the fingers, listening to the sound being made, and eventually writing down the guys arrangement. This has been an on-off project for about 2 months; it was a slow and monotonous job, taking several hours to only get 5-6 bars, but I'm happy I did it. MuseScore link: https://musescore.com/user/37659330/scores/7162161 The song seems to jump keys all over the place. I did my best near the end of the song to try adjust the sheet music to match the changing keys (and time signature right at the end), however the entire first page is just left in the key of Bb Major / G Minor. If anyone more experienced could point me to what bars the keys change at, and what keys the song changes to, I shall endeavour to update the sheet. Also, let me know if there is any wrong notes or bellows directions in the music, and I shall also fix those. I take no credit for this arrangement; all the credit goes to Concertina Joel. I have attached his original video below. I know the concertina community is a small one, so maybe he's on the forums here somewhere too (I member searched for joey, but could not find him. Maybe he's under a different name here?). Also, big shout out to Gary Coover for his tablature system, which has been a great help to me learning this instrument. Recently picked up his Christmas book for the festive period. Maiden_Voyage.pdf
  11. I have also transposed the song to Am. Much to my chagrin (because I enjoy playing in the original key where possible) it still sounds fine, and is a little easier to play. There was still an issue with harmony on the first note of bar 20. Buttons 7 and 1a pushing on the left hand would have been better, but because of uncomfortableness and running out of air (probably due to my cheap concertina), I opted for 1 and 3 pulling instead. Feel free to try 7 and 1a instead. Hope y'all had a good weekend! Roll_Northumbria_Roll_(Am).pdf
  12. Hey guys, I'd like to share with you my arrangement of Roll Northumbria Roll by The Dreadnoughts: https://musescore.com/user/37659330/scores/7115064. I'm using Gary Coover's tablature system again (Big shout out to G-Dawg!) I used this resource to determine the chords (https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/the-dreadnoughts/roll-northumbria-chords-3285992), and from that figure out the tune. I had most trouble with the F#s, but I wanted to keep it in the original key. The second-last bar in F# was the hardest, as the melody required a C# and E (pushing), while the chords required F# and A# (pulling). I managed to get some harmony that worked, but it is not the original F# sadly. Link to the original song: Roll_Northumbria_Roll-The_Dreadnoughts.pdf
  13. Hey Joachim, Is this the video you're looking for?: Had a quick search on Youtube, seems to match the criteria; concertina and harmonica, performed at the Willie Clancy Summer School (a quick google search informed me they teach Irish music). Martin
  14. Morning Don and David, You're absolutely right, I did not take this into account with my post. I am sorry, David. And I'm sorry if I came across as disrespectful or rude. I did not mean to be. Looking back, even a day later, I kinda wish I didn't send it tbh. I was just in a place where I was re-reading the messages (to find the links you guys sent), and it felt like I was being told off for something I didn't do. Having little sleep - it is unseasonably hot here in Scotland - doesn't help either XD I have nothing but respect for all you guys, especially with all the helpful links you were sending me. I am new to these forums (thanks for having me) and the instrument, and although I don't often post, I do often lurk around reading lots of the forum posts. Oh lordy, I'm trying! I'm already at the stage where I think a better instrument would seriously help some of the fast in-out movements of the bellows required for a lot of songs. I hope to chat to you all in another thread sometime soon Martin
  15. Hey Don and lachenal74693, Sorry the reply in getting back to you. These are some weighty reads, and will take me a while to fully get though. I appreciate your help with all this. Music theory has certainly piqued my interest in the last year; I think it was having the circle of fifths explained to me that really got me interested, as it explained why my accordion's bass buttons were in the order they were. I suppose my thoughts here are to clear up the main point of contention. As far as I understand it it's with the use of D instead of Am. As I've stated above, I agree with the music theory others have expressed; if this was a new song we were composing, or we were looking at the sheet music objectively, then music theory would suggest that Am would be the most appropriate chord here. Again, I agree. However my point is that the original tune does not use an Am, but instead uses a D (as far as I can tell through listening to it) (again, here is a link to a version I made with the chords on the bass clef to help hear how it sounds, to help when comparing to the original tune). Unless I have misread others posts, I feel my point is maybe being missed. I am trying to get my rendition as close to the original as possible. I am not disagreeing with Am because I disagree with the music theory side of things. I am disagreeing with Am because it is not the chord used in the original tune, as I hear it. I could very well be wrong, my musical ear is pretty amateur. But I haven't heard anyone engage with that point and say they hear an Am in the original song; only that if they were looking at the sheet music objectively that they'd use a Am, not a D. Maybe I have missed this in the posts, and people are engaging with that point, and if so I'm sorry. I hope this clears up my confusion here, and hope you're all enjoying the same sunny weather we've got in Scotland today, Martin TLDR: I feel others are taking an objective look at just the sheet music, and not focusing on the sound of the original tune.
  16. Hello Acqua, I haven't played Sea of Thieves in ages, but glad to see they're adding new songs to the shanty list. I gave the song a try, I believe it is in the key of F, and I used 2 resources to help me (here for chords, and here for notes, although I had to transpose them to F instead of G). I tried my best, I'm missing some of the flourishes with the bass notes, but I feel it's a good starting point. An aside, all the C7s are played as normal C majors. I could not easily find a way to get a Bb and C comfortably, and it all sounds fine as C too. I hope this is the sort of thing you're looking for, and have a good day, Martin Yo_Ho.pdf
  17. I know the recording of me playing the song wasn't the best, so to help hear what the song sounds like with the D chord, I have transposed my tablature to a bass clef, and uploaded to MuseScore here: https://musescore.com/user/37659330/scores/6861479 Give the play button in the top left of that page a press, and see how you feel. Again, if you feel Am fits better, by all means switch it out. It's all personal preference at the end of the day, as it's my unofficial arrangement. Have a good day, Martin
  18. Hello Mike, thanks for your reply, Sorry if I was confusing, but yes, this was what I was referring to; each note having 3 chords within the Key (I guessed the key was Em) that could accompany it. In my chord testing, for the most part I wasn't straying to Cm, Fm, Bb, or any other chords not part of Em. The only bit's where I had to stray was with the A and B; it took a while to figure out those chords as they're not within Em. But maybe that's what you were getting at with it being Aeolian (I don't know what that means yet, but maybe it would explain this?). I have played the tune, swapping out D for Am, and it does sound tonally correct, but I personally don't feel it matches the same sound as the original tune (linked above). That's not to say I don't agree with you; although my music theory is limited, everything I have learnt tells me that Am should be the chord to use here, and it was the first one I tried when testing accompanying chords. I tried Am, D, and F, as all contain an A, but I personally felt D better matched the original tune as I heard it. I hope this clears things up. I don't disagree that, just looking at the sheet music, Am should be the chord used here. However, as I hear it, D matches the sound of the original tune. By all means feel free to switch it out with Am if you plan to play the tune, as long as you have fun playing I don't mind Martin
  19. Hey David, thanks for your reply. My music theory is rather limited, mainly learned through the Music Matters YouTube channel. My method of arranging this tune was to get the melody by ear (attempting to stay within C or G if possible), determine the key (in this case Em), start with an Em chord (as the first note is Em), and try to figure out the rest of the chords by ear from there. My understanding is there are usually 3 chords you can use from a key for any given note, and D sounded the most like the original tune. I gave Am a quick try, but it didn't quite sound right. That could also be because the rest of the chords are based around the D chord, and maybe the rest of the chords need changed too? I've attached a recording of me playing the piece, so you can see how it sounds. Apologies for the quality; I'm still fairly new to playing the concertina, I have a cheaper instrument, and I'm recording with a potato phone mic. Here's a YouTube link to the original song as well: Martin rowing_with_one_hand.mp3
  20. Hello again, I've been on a roll these past few days, and I'd like to share another Ye Banished Privateers song I have managed to arrange for the concertina; Rowing With One Hand. I had pretty much zero issues with this song; all the bellows directions matched the chords perfectly, I found I wasn't overextending the bellows or running out of air, and even the awkward B chords fit perfectly with everything else. The song itself is an entertaining one; see if you can figure out what the song is about from this verse: Rowing in a rowing boat A trail behind me left afloat I'll raise the level of the sea Enjoying my own company I have attached a PDF, and you can view it via MuseScore here. Thanks for reading if you got this far, and have a good day! Rowing_With_One_Hand.pdf
  21. Hello all, hope you're all having a good weekend! I bring you all an arrangement of Capstan Shanty by Ye Banished Privateers, a modern day sea shanty. I have used Gary Coover's tablature system for the arrangement, so anyone familiar with his tablature should have an easy time reading it. Here is a link to the MuseScore page, and a pdf attachment is available to download. The only section I had trouble with is the Am on the pull, on bar 7 of the piece. I feel like a pull is needed here, to ensure you don't run out of air, but Am does not naturally work with on the pull. Any thoughts on how this could be improved are most welcome. Here is a link to the original song. It takes about a minute to properly get into the tune. Martin Capstan_Shanty.pdf
  22. Cheers for the headsup, Bill. The next time I have to open it up for whatever reason, I shall consider doing the replacement.
  23. Ok, took it apart again this morning. It was a friction fit, however the seal had been partially glued between both the outer shell and the action, so a scalpel was needed to cleanly separate the two. Turns out there were 2 issues I could see. Firstly, the button shaft wasn't sitting snuggly in it's little canal; it was able to wiggle back and forth, more so than the other buttons. A few pinches with a long pair of pliers was able to reduce that. Secondly, I think the scraping was coming from some gunk buildup underneath where the button connected to the shaft. It's probably a buildup of metal shavings, due to the button wiggling on the shaft. I took the button off and removed the gunk. Putting the whole thing back together was a bit of a pain, due to the left-hand side being in 2 parts that no longer stuck together. There are times I regret getting such a cheap concertina - especially due to the bellows - however this is one of those times where I'm glad, as fixing this has been a learning experience. I don't think I'd be too happy taking apart a £1000+ concertina, however I don't feel too bad if I were to break something in this particular concertina. I've attached pictures of the problem areas.
  24. Cheers for the reply, Bill. I did give it a little pull, incase it would come apart, but being inexperienced I didn't wanna break anything. I'll maybe try give it a firmer pull. I think I remember the fabric seal was sortof glued on, so removing it to have a look might require more glue to reattach. But hopefully I can just expose a little bit of its to have a look. I expect if it's screwed near the edges that there'll be more than one screw, so I won't need to pull apart the whole edge if I don't find a screw after a certain amount. I wanna make sure I've got a firm plan before I start taking it apart again. There are no metal inserts in the wood where the external screws go (just straight into the wood), so I wanna take it apart as little as possible so I don't destroy the screw holes.
  25. Hello everybody, I am wondering if anyone can help me get access to the action of the left-hand side of my Concertina. I am a new concertina player, and own a cheap Scarlatti to learn on. I have recently found my left-hand G/A button (button 5 by Gary Clover's tablature) is starting to click/slight-grindy-crunchy-noise, and sometimes becomes hard to press in. Something is not quite right with it, but I am unsure what; the mechanism might just require some lubrication, or something bent back into place. I am hoping the issue will become apparent after I can see the mechanism working up close, and comparing it to the other buttons. I was following the Repair Techniques section on concertina.info, but got stuck after I removed the endplate when I could not find any method of getting into the action. There is no screw on the inside that I can see that will give me access to the action. I have attached a photo of what I saw when I took the endplate off. I have since put the concertina back together. Does anyone have experience with this brand of instrument that will know how to gain access to the action? Martin
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