pentaprism
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From what I know, the Swan does not have Jeffries layout.
My first AC is a Swan. It was a decent concertina and is sufficient to start with. My unscientific guess ("guess" because I didn't keep it that long) is that if you are serious about learning AC, and make decent progress, you can feel its limitations and the need to upgrade after about 1 year.
I used the Swan for about two months and was lucky to be able to get a pre-owned Morse Ceili. The Swan then sat lonely in the case. I sold it a few months back. I would have kept the Swan as a "mobile" instrument (when traveling/in the car/in the office) had it had Jeffries layout.
In my experience, the limitations of the Swan are: (1) stiff bellows, (2) buttons having no bushings, (3) uneven button pressures. It's difficult to compare the sound, but I feel the Ceili sounds much "sweeter."
Again, the Swan is a decent starting AC. Its limitations are in comparison with the Morse Ceili, which costs almost 3 times as much.
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I'm interested, Bernie.
Please check your PM.
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12 hours ago, CaliforniaPikeMan said:
Well, a big thanks to @pentaprism for setting me up with a like new Swan c/g 30 button anglo!
You're very welcome, PikeMan. Hope you (not sure about your family, however ? )enjoy it!
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Thanks, Gary, for the investigation and the reply post.
As lachenal74693 suggested, PDF would work.But I’m not sure as how Amazon handles it on the business side.
Recently I’ve been videotaping/photographing my daughter and her team’s paragliding. There is much “dead” time between flights and I use the time to learn AC. The Kindle Voyage works great because it is compact, lightweight and most importantly of all, its display works in any lighting condition. My iPad Mini is also compact but to my old eyes is virtually useless in bright sunlight.
Incidentally, I have a printed copy of Gary’s Easy Anglo 123 (there’s no Kindle version). I scanned it and sent the PDF file to my Kindle. Works great!
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Look here for a similar AC, albeit fully restored:
https://buttonbox.com/concertinas-in-stock.html
Select “Anglo.” It’s the 4th item up from the end of this listing, the one that is priced at $3400.
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I bought Gary's Kindle-edition Christmas Concertina and Anglo Concertina in the Harmonic Style and am disappointed to find that they don't display on my Kindle Voyage:
Unavailable for Download
"Anglo Concertina in the Harmonic Style"
The item is not compatible with this device.
They display fine on my iPad. But iPad display is terrible in the sun!
Does anyone have the same problem?
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>> Should I at least do that until the bellows don't expand when sitting....
I have a Morse Céilí that was made in March 2016. Its bellows are still “expanding when sitting.”
Also, I keep the concertina in “playing position” (horizontal). I think standing it on end is bad for the valves.
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I'm new to concertina, so please take it easy on me....
>> When the concertina is just sitting there the bellows will expand a tiny bit.
I don't think this will hurt the concertina. The only thing I'm concerned about the concertina's bellows is that in transit, if the ends of the concertina are not blocked, the bellows keep moving in and out as if the concertina were being played. That may result in pre-mature wearing of the bellows.
Most of the hard-shell cases have the ends of the concertina blocked. So moving the concertina in its case is not a problem.
>> The button accordion when in resting position is on it's side and the weight of it keeps the bellows closed.
I'm not sure what kind of accordion you were referring to, but I play CBA. What recommended to me by the people who know much more than I do is that the accordion, especially one with a tone chamber, should be stored in the "playing position." This is to prevent the pre-mature sagging of the valves.
All of my CBAs, except for the Roland V-Accordions what have no valves, are stored upright in the playing position.
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I received an email from Doug Creighton with Button Box ("the seller" mentioned in my post above). He sent me a photo of a Mayfair model (1) and a photo of the Edley in question (2). One can see their actions are of the same type.
For contrast, he also sent a photo of the riveted action in a Minstrel (3).
I appreciate his quick response.
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Thanks, Alex. It’s clear now.
Regards,
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Thanks again, Bill.
I'm also considering a pre-own Edgley Professional, and am glad to hear more endorsement from people who know what they are talking about. I sent email messages to the seller asking for the model of the item in the ad (I guess it's not a Professional, otherwise the ad would state so) and what they meant by "Mayfair-action," but haven't heard from them.
My background: I play a bit of accordion (CBA), but am trying to learn something less heavy and more portable.
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15 minutes ago, Bill N said:
...the seller isn't too familiar with concertina terminology....
Thanks, Bill. But I guess this is not the case. The seller is a very popular concertina store, also a concertina maker.
I searched for "Mayfair concertina" and essentially found the same info as in your post. I didn't find anything as "Mayfair action."
I am particularly interested because I'm about to buy an Edgley (not necessarily the one in the ad).
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I'm new to Anglo concertina.
I've seen an ad for a 30B Edgley with "Mayfair-type action."
What is it and is it better or worse than other types of action?
Thanks.
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Joe,
Is the Edgley G/D still available?
considerations about learning new system
in General Concertina Discussion
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Hello Breve,
About 6 months ago, I asked Chris about buying a G/D from him and received the same concern from him re. the reeds might be disturbed from rough handling in transit because they were kept in place only be friction. I ended up with a used Morse Ceili, which I really like.
Re. a new Swan and a used Minstrel, I would stretch the budget for the latter. I did own a new Swan for a few months. It’s a decent concertina for beginners but my biggest problem with it is the lack of bushings. From the description on Concertina Connection’s website, the Minstrel doesn’t have this shortcoming.