John, Wexford
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Charles Monod runs a podcast at this website "Tunes From Doolin . com " (no spaces).
It might be worth contacting him in advance of your visit.
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On 12/30/2023 at 10:42 PM, SIMON GABRIELOW said:
I am not certain by 'rolls'.. but most effects and ability to do them well comes over time, and with practice.
Sometimes ( on Anglo) you can create a sort of 'trill' effect also by using bellows, and by so slightly moving bellows just enough to go rapidly from the one note to the other, for example: G natural to A natural is on one button on Anglo, and by moving bellows ( keeping the figer on the one button pressed down)..will alternate the two notes which can be done very rapidly if required.
It's a question over button and bellows coordination on Anglo.
Probably completely different to your question over "rolls".. but you will find your own way with practice ..and patience will get you there🌝
I am sure that you mean well, Simon, but rapidly alternating and reversing the notes G and A on a single button, whatever the row, will never work when playing Irish Traditional Music, even if played at a moderate or slow speed.
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I love that tune of Dermot Lernihan's, the "Corofin Departure".
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It is a long-established group, with a membership of well over 3,500 members.
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Tim has a Facebook account and you could message him there directly.
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The "nickname" is my description for the alternative name, and not anything formal.
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3 hours ago, Little John said:
It's my understanding that Irish players play mainly in D on a C/G box. In consequence they refer to C/G concertinas as "D concertinas". Hence a C#/G# box is a "D# concertina". Or Eb.
I suppose you could say that, when it comes to Irish Traditional Music on the Anglo Concertina, the concertina has two names: the formal name, as in the names of the rows - G/D, C/G, D/A etc. and the "nickname."
The nickname is usually one note above the first key, so a C/G would be a D or concert-pitch concertina. A C#/G# would be an E flat concertina, a B flat / F concertina would be a C concertina and an A flat / E flat concertina would be known as a B flat concertina.
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Many current concertina makers will offer tuning options for their Anglo concertinas ranging from F/C right up to D/A.
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I think things have changed in the aftermath of Covid-19.
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I'm getting a "404 Not Found" error on this one.
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On 6/27/2023 at 11:04 AM, David Lay said:
You could get a concertina with more buttons. You couldn't go wrong with a Suttner. His page says only an 18 month wait period. (I don't know if the fingering chart is what he currently offers.)
http://suttnerconcertinas.com/projects-item/a4-jeffries-type-anglo-concertina/
An 18 month delay is a tad optimistic. I've been hearing of people who are waiting between 5 and 7 years for a concertina from Jürgen Suttner.
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It looks gorgeous!
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Hi Leah,
The "superfast" AAA triplet is a giveaway that the player, and, (in this case), the composer Brenda Stubbert is a fiddle player, and so you will have to find alternative ornaments for this part of the tune.
I'm sorry but I've never heard of the expression "regular-fast" to describe two successive A notes in a tune, but there is absolutely no need to alternate or use different bellows directions for these two notes. This is where the grace-notes come in handy, and, in this particular tune, a grace-note would also be on the beat.
Here are some suggestions, but not exhaustive, to deal with those repeated A notes for the first part of this tune:
Simon,
Unfortunately, neither one-finger triplets, bellows reversals or bellows quivers will suffice for Irish Traditional Music, for obvious reasons.
Regards,
John.
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You could just grace the first note of the second phrase.
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Sorry Irina,
I'm only seeing this now.
Coming from a flute perspective, you're never going to be able to get exactly the same sort of rolls on the concertina, as you could get previously on the concert flute. In some cases the rolls will not be as good as those on the flute, but in other cases the rolls can be very much better.
Have a bash at this one, it might be a little bit different to what you'd expect, and see how you get on.
I like to use my 2nd playing finger for the first B, and glance it upwards, to replace it with your 1st playing finger, again on B. (You could do it the other way around, but at least, this way, your fingers are back in the "home" position.)
Regards, John.
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6 hours ago, SIMON GABRIELOW said:
Another way to do those repeated single notes more quickly in succession is to very slightly shake, or more quiver, the bellows as you hold on the note. If done rapidly it can also make an effective series of fast repeated single notes!
I'm not sure if you have ever played the Silver Spear for a Céilí.
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11 hours ago, Ken_Coles said:
Not only does Clare have a style, but east Clare and west Clare differ, is my general impression. The experts here will likely chime in. And didn't Gearoid O'H. write a dissertation on Irish concertina playing and styles? (same disclaimer - my recollection is hazy here).
Ken
This article by Gearóid is freely accessible from Clare County Library:
https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/music/heartland_clare_concertina/introduction.htm
I hope this is of some assistance.
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30 minutes ago, Lawrence Reeves said:
I suggest ordering direct from Suttner. His waiting list isn’t long by comparison. Those are amazing sounding and responsive instruments. .
Many people have been waiting from between 3 to 4 years for instruments from Juergen, despite what his website says.
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I taught a student one time, who had been taught using a similar numbering system. Unfortunately she started with another teacher shortly after, who had a completely different numbering system. She was completely at sea.
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What do the numbers mean?
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In general F# is draw on the C/G concertina and C# is press on the concertina. It is the other way around for both notes on the B/C style accordion.
I made the move in the opposite direction, from B/C accordion to concertina, and, inevitably, I ran into that problem of "is it press or draw", so much so, that I gave up the button accordion entirely.
I quite liked the idea, in theory, to try the single row style, so, eventually, I did purchase a C#/D accordion, but that's like a foreign country to me now.
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I played the B/C button accordion before the concertina. I decided then to dispense with the accordion altogether, particularly as the notes F# and C# were generally in the opposite directions on the concertina.
I decided that the benefits to re-learning how to control the bellows from the right hand side outweighed the effort and so I stuck with operating the bellows from the left hand side. There is an incredible, innate kind of co-operation that goes on between the left "bellows" hand and the right hand side air button. It is a bit like playing the tin whistle with the tips of your fingers, where, ordinarily, there should be more sensitivity, and using the flats of your fingers to play the chanter on the uilleann pipes. You just simply get used to it.
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I play "right side anchor" and it is no hindrance to me whatsoever.
Why B/F#
in Concertina History
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Perhaps it was used to play with a set of C# Uilleann Pipes.