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After 5 month, I didn't used it much at the end (working on other project) So the sale is open again !

Thank you Wes ! Yes not an easy instrument but a lot of fun when one can play a tune with expression. Indeed, I had some good friends comment about how it sound !

Concertina on hold...by me ? Took it out of the box for fun yesterday and really love the sound, feeling and all. I played it in a room with some echo...a very interesting experience ? Best

Lol thank you for your advice ! But I didn't mention any sound volume problem ha ha. The volume is enough for my need... Besides that, I am selling it because my effort goes to melodeon at the moment... (also far cheaper instrument) But concertina is really fun, feel like the sound is produced by the tip of fingers ? Best !

Nice playing Timv ! You have been very patient with your previous concertina seeing how well you play ? Ha ok I understand...Yes maybe ! Best

Hey thank you TImv giving your impression on the Swan ! By curiosity, is the sound more on the harsh side or warm ? Responsiveness and good balance is already a great point ! Concerning the thread you mention, not sure what you mean by "leather under the metal end", is that an expression ? ? (it's not metal end lol) Best

I am selling my beautiful George Jones 20 buttons in G/C. It took me ages to learn 2 tunes that I can't even play properly and concertina is an expensive instrument so I can't “afford” to keep it. It is a fun instrument but I decide to put all my effort on the melodeon. - Rosewood end - Bushed button - Play well from top to bottom (no reeds are hard to speak) - Airtight/compression is very good - Sweet and warm tone - Steel reeds - Bottom left button of G row is low A - soft case included Please find a video of me playing to have an idea of the sound with smartphone (I didn't try my best ? https://youtu.be/Zjud-sTBbrQ Bought from Chris Algar (Barleycorn) a few month ago for 650 euros, looking for 550 euros (sent from Belgium). He said it is a nice one. Best Nicolas

Hello, I just bought this concertina from Sunbeamer (great person to deal with). Bought it out of curiosity as my first quality Hybrid ! But I prefer the sound of those vintage concertina (I have a super sweet sounding Jones). So no problem at all with this concertina, just doesn't fit my needs (the search is endless ?) Letting it go for £950 + shipping (bargain ?) Travel concertina, great for practice when you’re away or just a good basic instrument for day to day use. its small (5”) but plays just like a normal size anglo , the extra button C#/ Eb makes a massive difference to the normal 20 button Anglo. 7 fold bellows + recently tuned & serviced by Marcus . In tune , in good condition , sweetheart concertina, with Marcus travel bag check the Marcus music web site for more info. Pictures and record in attachment. best Marcus 1.mp3 Marcus 2.mp3

Wow nice !! After a few weeks, it's crazy (nice version of Monk's March) we can feel you have fun playing this tune. Really enjoying this, keep them coming ? Nicolas

Still for sale ? thank you

Thanks Wolf, great idea in the future ! (For my current problem, I know the reed is intact). I'll keep this idea in my archive ! Best

I have the exact same problem but A drawn (not a Ceili) just about one week ago. I have told by seller (Algar) the reason could be humidity (like Noel Ways said). But I am still looking for a solution ! In my case, reed and reed frame is good so it is probably reed frame placement or valve (like Frank Edgley said) or... I am a total newbie in maintenance and I find it so complex to find the reason... Nicolas

As a beginner view, yes that's what I meant ! Keeping finger on the low A and playing other notes around, and the G on push, lot's of fun.

Totally agree with low A :-) And can be used as a fun drone note

Agree !

I guess no catch...I am thinking about it but definitively waiting for a sale.

Tiposx, have you consider the mcneela New Swan concertina ? I started a thread here Best

Hello ! There is this thread about mcneelamusic Phoenix concertina but what about the "New Swan concertina" ? Does anybody can give his/her impression ? Here is a Link The description say "Produces a strong, clear & bright tone" and a reviewer say "Lovely concertina, has a very sweet sound" lol It does sound kind of sweet, which is good. Thank you, Nicolas

Hello Tiposx, you can find my initial impression of the Wren 2 here : https://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?/topic/19805-buying-advice-under-50000/&tab=comments#comment-185246 I was really going for the Phoenix lately but as I couldn't find any more information/reviews, I gave up. And find out that for the price of a 3 rows (in general), I could buy two vintage 20b lol or a 20b and 26b... The third row is very expensive !! Best !

Hello Terence, I subscribe to both of them (not at the same time ? ). There are nice tune on both side and no overlap. IrishConcertinaLessons is a newborn site and have only access to beginner part, where you’ll learn fingering for each tune (which is great) and eventually an alternative. I personally really like the tune “Fig for a kiss”. The down side is that she does not teach ornamentation at all in beginner section (I think an advance beginner could already start basic ornamentation or double note to emphasis the tune), that was the biggest disappointment for me but no big deal. OAIM: You have access to beginner and intermediate, both have lessons going on (and from various teacher) and ornamentation. I don't feel that it is less modern ? (also have mp3, pdf and video). At the end both are great, I probably should have wait for the intermediate lessons next year in IrishConcertinaLessons.com. Best

The end looks exactly like this Lachenal.

I asked myself the same question about the Phoenix, it does sound pretty good ! But like you said, she is a very good player and can make the Wren sound pretty good too... My story: I bought the Wren and decide to send it back for a refund. They have a good refund policy so you can always order the Phoenix and send it back if you don't like it ! Good luck and in that case, please tell us what you think about the Phoenix ? I decided to go for a vintage 20b, cheaper and usually very good if well restored (better buy from a known seller/shop). But now looking for a 26b. For a 30b, I understand your choice concerning the Phoenix. Nicolas

Thank you for your answer !! Lots of information here, this is very helpful and instructive (I'll get back very often to read all this again). It does reconfort my choice...why not brass reeds after all :-) But more for home use so eventually I don't care if not modern pitch... I understand better the "slow" thing. And that brass reeds are more sensitive and airtight bellows is critical... I'll probably do my experience so I can answer to the next person asking about brass reeds ha ha I already bought a concertina from Chris and I am very happy with it ! Chris Algar just does not like (at all) to describe sound or kind of sound (mellow, harsh, warm,...) so it is not easy to buy online. Nicolas

Hello everyone, An old discussion back again... I like to buy a 26b anglo concertina and I actually think about going for a George Jones Anglo concertina with brass reed (from Chris Algar), because cheaper than steel (budget) and I like the mellow/warm tone, but never tried it. I read on many place that brass reed gets out of tune quickly and is slower to speak and can break. Then I stumble upon harpomatic post in this thread : Here is a part of it : "Now, when both of my concertinas are equally airtight, here's what I get: 1) no rust or corrosion on brass reeds - reeds look brand new with just a swipe of a brass cleaner 2) reed responsiveness is the same on both instruments 3) dynamic range is the same (will elaborate a bit further on that): the brass one can be played much more quietly at the extreme low volume limit (whisper level, you can play next to someone sleeping, without waking them up). 4) sound is indeed, very different. 5) volume is not as different as it seems, and as common opinion would have it, and here comes my "elaboration"...." Here are my remarks/questions : a) Brass reeds gets out of tune: Chris Algar told me that it does not get out of tune… (I guess he meant for "home use". Probably in session if you play as hard as possible, it can get out of tune...) b) Brass reeds can break: Apparently this is true but in what condition ? Those vintage concertinas are eventually 200 hundreds year old and the brass reed are still there ! So I guess it does not break that easily :-) c) Brass reeds slower to speak: Reading harpomatic post saying "the brass one can be played much more quietly at the extreme low volume limit", I understand the opposite, it is super-fast to speak ! And if slower to speak, what does it mean ? Does it need more air ? Is it in all register or only low register ? The final question is can Irish tune can be played on a brass reed concertina ? I mean probably not super fast tune but I guess it is possible to get it up to speed or this is the maximum speed here All input and experience welcome ! Thank you, Nicolas

Still for sale ? lol