Voomy
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so what you mean, is that they really are useless?
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that's the question for any serious concertina player.
its a more serious question than this but ill answer:
don't buy a cheap instrument for a starter. you'll stop before you start
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yeah right. This is addition is no good. what makes it worse is that your telling people to pay you money for.... this.
regardless of dadylongass or w/e his name is.
check out all the free material on here. folks that make no money at all, and have a ton more knowledge. this site is worth it.
even alan days info... is actually clear an concise how to start learning basic anglo. he deserves money.
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No dice yet. 5-6 inches... Id like more on the 5 inche side.
20-30 key.
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huh, so this is the way to practice them?
Q anglo-irishman '
"Play them in differnt dance rhythms, play them legato, play them fast and slow, phrase them nicely - in short, do with them what you would do with a tune that's in your head. "
So this is the proper way to learn and practice them? my guitar teacher never taught me how to learn scales except up and down and up and down. Is this essentially what guitar players call licks?
Voomy,
My experience of scale exercises stems from singing lessons. They make the voice supple, and give you the feel for intervals. Same with an instrument, only it's the fingers that get that suppleness and feel for intervals.
Perhaps we should distinguish between "learning scales" and "practising scales."
The first time you get a new instrument - no matter which one - in your hands, you've no idea how to identify the 7 notes in the 12-note octave that you'll need for the tunes you want to play. In this situation, you just have to get used to hitting only those notes. That's what I would call "learning the scale". When you move on to the next key, you have a new scale to learn, and go back to square one.
But when you can automatically find the notes of a given scale, you have to get fluent in it, so that you can get the seven notes in quick succession in whatever order they happen to be in a tune you want to play. That's where "scale exercises" come in. They teach you to jump up and down the scale, as the tune may dictate, and do it cleanly and with confidence.
Remember, music is not about playing notes - it's about moving from one note to the next, and being ready for the note after next!
After a while, when you've been playing a few tunes over and over, you'll notice that new tunes will "re-use" sequences that you know from earlier tunes. At this stage, scale exercises become less important, IMO. However, they may become important again when you branch out into hitherto unfamiliar keys.
Think of scale exercises in guitar terminology as "riffs" if you like - but play each riff eight times, starting on a higher note of the scale each time. If you practise enough of these "riffs", you'll often find that you can slot one of them into a new tune, and save yourself the trouble of "spelling out" a sequence of notes.
And of course, instruments are different. "Learning the scale" i.e. identifying the 7 notes you need for tunes, is dead easy on an Anglo concertina in the home keys. There are no "wrong" notes in the row, so you can swiftly progress to "practising the scales". The guitar fretboard and the Duet concertina keybord, by contrast, are littered with "wrong" notes, so it takes longer to "learn the scales" before you start "practising the scales."
Cheers,
John
This is a quite a bit of a novice to process. I read it a couple times. Its advanced for me.. at this point.
At the same time I am only partial comprehension of it.
remember when you were newbie
With an answer like that, I need your knowledge
again.... I just reread it. I cant fully understand it enough to reply. Its answers like you gave me.
trust me. It does indeed help
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12 string corsart sold
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hey so far ive been playing 1 for base and 4 &5 as the basic ompa chords. at least whats what he said to do.
soo, there is no explanation of this one, Do I just continue with that on this one? I'm mapping it out now.
Also part A is in the key of c and part b is in the key of G.
am I suppose to map the both parts out in separate keys? and play it in one key each time?
also... Do I play the standard umpa chords on the c row for the entire time or switch to G for the second 1/2?
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Another alternative is to play a tune without chords and switch to one with chords,giving a lift to the music.
This gave me an idea.... Start the Oscar wood jig, in octave playing, Then after the first A part, repeat it with chords for the rest of your song. To create interest for the unsuspecting audience.... time to practice octave playing
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huh, so this is the way to practice them?
Q anglo-irishman '
"Play them in differnt dance rhythms, play them legato, play them fast and slow, phrase them nicely - in short, do with them what you would do with a tune that's in your head. "
So this is the proper way to learn and practice them? my guitar teacher never taught me how to learn scales except up and down and up and down. Is this essentially what guitar players call licks?
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Playing for listening can be different for music to dance to.
You could for example change keys by playing the chord of the key you are switching to, or completely change the rythym.
Another alternative is to play a tune without chords and switch to one with chords,giving a lift to the music.
Practice is the answer and the more you play two tunes together the easier the switch when you are in front of an audience. Try also to think of how you are going to finish,a straight chord at the end is a bit boring (but adequate). A bit of a flourish at the end can create a better audience reaction.
Good luck with the tutor.
Al
Well I'm not advanced enough to know the answer to this.. can the basic chord on buttons 1 then 5&6 be changed to different chords to make it sound a little more different at each part? to make the song interesting longer?
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If you want to play in more than the home keys, or use alternate fingerings, it's useful to have the muscle memory for where the notes are, especially if you play by ear. Also, it's useful to play the same scale using alternate fingerings and buttons. To be honest, I don't bother with scales too much, but do make a point of learning tunes in oddball keys, and practicing different patterns for playing them. If you don't find scales have worked for you in the past it may not be worth your while now.
This is something my past instructors have told me.
thankyou. THIS actually helps explain a lot
Edit: he explains a lot. that does not mean, I do not want more help, in understanding information.
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I learned scales on guitar and piano... up and down and up and down and up and down... they never helped.
I learn songs that alan day has presented... and i am starting to automatically improvise with it, for my own enjoyment... not well at all, i admit.
Just there has to be a reason people say learn scales.... im not jesting, I just dont get it. So whats the point?
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congo can seems to lead nicely into oscar woods jig... i still need to figure out a way to make THAT lead into Jack O'Robison.
its more about making things interesting for the audience. Cause playing these songs over... and over... and over... I dont actually care that much about them, too much, anymore. but I know I loved them at the get go, and that's what I want to impress.
but this is my own opinion. things like Phish, the guitar band, did.... they miss the point... more and more complex music does not usually appeal to the general audience.
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Ok Im just looking to play a basic music set for people.
Im up to his first 3 songs completely by memory. but I'm having trouble figuring out a way to link them to make them sound more or less... well... somewhat continuous because they are kinda short.
also ive tried basic variations like 2a 2b then 1a 1b.... to make the song a little longer.
any suggestions are most welcome
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actually you do deserve it.
Regardless, off that topic.
Are you spreading ur pornograhic Cds everywhere? ;D
and even more off topic. you look better with white hair. Remember. with wisdom comes.... I guess... i dont really know
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Hi Voomy, so sorry that my silliness has caused you distress. You just go tell those scoffers that actually, I'm wearing boxers... it's just a gag... really.
Hey, The people I was with last night were just jackasses. plain and clear. That on top of a bad day.... I turned into the jackass to you.
at any rate, that IS one of the best things about concertina, that we tend to be the eccentric type
I do give you an apology for this though. you didn't deserve it.
maybe a moderator can delete the post.
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The mandolins have been sold
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updated.... for being a jerk and recognizing it
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Is this one still available? also is there any chance you can tune it back to normal tuning? I have a few concertinas and im too old to learn different tunings
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Yeah that's probably what ill settle on... but I want to give it a few months on here to give it a chance if someone has something like that
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It is surprising how much smaller a standard 6 1/4" concertina is compared to a 7" Rochelle. It is not just the diameter of the ends, but the extra depth of the ends on a Rochelle that makes it feel a lot bigger.
You might find that anything smaller would be too small for your hands.
completely incorrect!
Travel size is what I want And bill, I will look into that morse
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hey thats actually some pretty good news! All the reeds are intact in all of them. The one tech I talked to said its $55 dollars an hour to retune. How many hours does something like this take?
again, just a guess is fine.
Im just going to ship it in to one of these various shops or something
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what is the size of the 20 button across the flats?
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Alright. No, I don't like it.
have some respect for my opinion.