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    Anglos I Can't Afford

    in General Concertina Discussion

    Posted

    My answer to questions 2 and 3 would be 'concertinas and melodeons are entirely different instruments. They look a little bit similar and they've both got buttons and bellows, but they're really no more alike that guitar and banjo. Don't try to make one into the other; pick the one you want to play and learn it. If what you actually want is a tiny melodeon, then that's what you want, not a concertina.'

     

     

    1) The sturdy basic Anglo is the Rochelle. That is only available as a 30 button, and it is priced higher than the Scarlatti. I have a friend that bought a 30 button Scarlatti about 3 years ago, and he seemed happy with it, but I moved away 2 years ago, and haven't had a recent report on whether that is still true. I can't comment on the 20 button version. You might get lucky.

     

    2) Why not just get used to using the left hand for part of the melody? The concertina is different than a melodeon anyway, so it needs to be played differently. Often the melody is best placed so that it crosses onto both sides, using both rows, so that most of the notes are available under the first two fingers of each hand. But if you want the melody in the lower register, then use more of the left hand. I frequently do that myself. Another option would be to find a baritone concertina (and octave lower) so that the right hand would be in lower register, (and left hand in a very low register) but that makes it impossible to find an inexpensive instrument. Turning the Anglo concertina upside down would make it even more unlike the melodeon anyway, since the direction of the notes on the right hand would be reversed vertically. And of course there is the issue of the air button placement. I don't know anyone who plays the Anglo upside down. I do know a left handed player who has chosen to play the melodeon upside down however, so the melody buttons are on the left side, and chords on the right.

     

    3) That low G on the pull at the bottom of the C row is useful because it offers the dominant G chord on the lowest three buttons on the pull, while with those same three buttons you get a deep partial tonic C chord on the push. That offers a relatively easy way to provide most of the chords on an a tune in C. By comparison, the lowest button on the G row can be a D which is analogous to the G on the C row you asked about, but it can also be an A which may be the missing note you were looking for.

     

    Really though - Wayman is right. If you want the instrument to be a small melodeon, then get that instead. It will likely be less expensive for a good quality instrument. If you want to play concertina, that is great! Get it and enjoy it! But it isn't the same instrument.

     

     

    well answered. I can second these.

    Lachenal 26-Key C/g Anglo, Steel Reeds, Tuned & Serviced

    in Buy & Sell

    Posted

     

    do you have any more 20-30 button anglo?

     

    Only the Frank Edgley C/G at the moment, but I have more old ones to fix...

     

     

     

    that edgley looks quite nice. I wish you still had the 26 or 27 button. I do want to get a concertina from someone who knows what they are doing.

     

    Because I don't. I just play them. how many more do you have planned on fixing up? I have a few concertinas that I never attempted to fix.

    Missing E Sharp On My Elise

    in Teaching and Learning

    Posted

    Kevin

     

    I like MusicTheory.net

     

    If you are a book kind of guy then the 'Everything Reading Music Book' by Marc Schonbrun is very approachable.

     

    I really enjoyed the University of Edinburgh free online course on music theory that they run occasionally. Check with Coursera for when they next run it. Be warned, it is hard work.

     

    Just checked and the next course starts August 22.

     

    My problem is that my ear is very poor so I try to rely on music theory to make up for my shortfall. I envy folks who can just hear something and know how to play it.

     

    Don.

     

    signed up! thanks don

    Looking For 40 Button Anglo

    in Buy & Sell

    Posted

    hey, Id rather do it through this site. I can afford up to $1000 paid by paypal. need a 40 button anglo that works. got a duet now. just need this one. Ill update the post when I get one. :) worst case scenario ill get a new 40 stagi in a couple weeks.

     

    thanks!

    Alan Day Tutorial Help

    in Teaching and Learning

    Posted

    oh, and kinda irrelevant. but I wasnt Attacking alan in anyway for his tutorial. Far from it. ITs the way i want to learn. But there are massive gaps of knowledge in the material. its great expert musicians get it, I dont. If my path can accelerate and help people learn, thats the goal. Because Im learning a massive amount having to learn it myself but im wasting so much time as well trying to figure it out.

    Hohner D40 And Other Concertinas That Suck

    in Buy & Sell

    Posted

    checked out your link don. that was really cool seeing them from china. I had no clue a 30 button could be as low as 60 dollars and change. (granted u gotta buy like 50 of em) so far i have your link

     

     

    and ebay

    this site

    amazon

     

    to find a genuine one that only another concertina player would apperciate

    Hohner D40 And Other Concertinas That Suck

    in Buy & Sell

    Posted

    Hohner used to make concertinas in Germany, then they moved all of their production to China, then they gave up all control and just bought boxes from Chinese manufacturers and rebadged them as Hohners. Stagi seems to be going down the same route.

     

    I have not done it for a while but it is quite illuminating to search Allababa.com for concertinas and accordions.

     

    fascinating, i love reading posts like yours that have knowledge

    Alan Day Tutorial Help

    in Teaching and Learning

    Posted

     

    Alan day made a tutorial on the exact topic i want to learn.(how to accompany music) His tutorial, while lots of knowledge is in them, It is confusing and hard to learn.

    "Confusing and hard to learn" for you, perhaps, and the Congo thread indicates that you're not alone. But the tutorial has also received much praise, so it seems that not everyone has had that difficulty. Come to us with specifics, and maybe some of us -- even Alan himself -- can help you out.

     

     

     

    lol, yeah im not afraid to admit im not some stellar musician. im not sure if you were trying to insult me or not. it doesnt matter. If i have trouble and can offer help to people in the same boat as me, i will.

     

    So yes, it is hard for me.

     

    This is a fine instrument. and this forum is pointing us all in the right direction.

    Sea Shanty Sheet Music

    in Tunes /Songs

    Posted

    im struggling to choose what style of concertina too. From what i gather so far (and keep in mind, i just want to play solo)

     

    anglo is good for inherit rhythm and harmony.

     

    duet, and to a lesser extent english are for musicians that just have a natural brain capacity for it. and sound terrible unless the people know what they are doing. The anglo sounds fantastic even if you only have a mediocore music talent. And by no means dont get me wrong. The anglo has huge capacity for music in a very concertina sort of way.

     

     

    From what i gather its kinda like this:

     

    anglo is like your standard guitar tuning... chords just sound *right* and *normal* on the anglo. but the duet and english are more like open guitar tunings. it sounds awesome and cool... but just some how not correct.

     

    at any rate, im no expert, so hopefully the real tunes can chime in :)

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