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  1. I've been paying classical music on anglo concertina for several years, and I've found that sheet music written for guitar works quite well since it's in roughly the same range. There are limitations of course; you can't do many bass runs because you don't have all the notes, and you don't always have the key combinations you want, but you can't let that stop you. And there's tons of material on the net, with IMSLP and free scores.com, Bach, Vivaldi, Mozart, whatever. I also enjoy playing things like milongas, gatos and rancheras.  Why isn't there more time? (rhetorical question, no need to reply.)

  2. Thanks, Jim


    It makes sense to me that switching between more different systems, i.e. Anglo and English,  concertina and B/C accordion, would be easier, but I accept the fact that this ability differs widely from person to person, there being no way to predict how easily any individual might be able to do it, and that practice would increase the odds of pulling it off. 


    Merging the two threads seems like a good idea, but I don't know how to go about it. 

  3. I'd like to hear about people's experiences with playing both Jeffries and Wheatstone layouts in Anglo concertinas and switching back and forth between them, difficulties encountered, strategies for making it work, or if it's crazy to even contemplate doing it, etc.


    My own experience is limited, I learned on Wheatstone layout, and when I was thinking of buying a better instrument, I studied the layout charts, and swore I'd never want anything other than Wheatstone.


    When I bought my Edgley on eBay, it was advertised as Wheatstone, so I was pretty annoyed to find out it was actually Jeffries. I even talked to Frank about the cost of changing the reeds in the third row on the right. But once I learned to play Jeffries, I discovered I liked it a lot more. It took a while for my fingers to adapt, though.


    After that, I tried to play Wheatstone layout once, but gave it up quickly, for various reasons.


    So far, I’ve heard from Doug Anderson, who said “I spent several months trying to play both my Morse with the Wheatstone layout and my Jeffries with the Jeffries layout - both are G/D Anglos. I eventually gave up and sent the Morse to The Button Box to have the reeds changed to the Jeffries layout. I had no particular preference for one layout over the other but switching the Morse was a much more practical solution.”

  4. Yes, Anglos. I could be wrong, but I don't think Jeffries and Wheatstone layouts apply to English.  Or duet for that matter.


    Thanks, Doug Anderson. That's funny. I started on Wheatstone, and after studying the layout charts, swore I'd never want anything else. When I bought my Edgley on eBay, it was advertised as Wheatstone, so I was pretty annoyed to find out it was actually Jeffries, but once I learned it I discovered I liked it a lot more, so go figger.  It took a while form my fingers to adapt, though.

  5. I'd like to post a question about people's experiences with playing both Jeffries and Wheatstone layouts and switching back and forth between them, difficulties encountered (or if it's crazy to even contemplate it) etc., not a debate about which is best or preferred, but I'm not sure which forum it belongs in. Any suggestions?

  6. Well, I made the same mistake about thinking it was a 40 button anglo and bought it. I've been looking for 40 button anglo for some time. 


    When Gary sent me photos, I was overwhelmed by the beauty of the instrument and didn't look at the button configuration carefully enough. It now seems like fool any (except me!) could have seen it wasn't an anglo. 


    It also needs quite a bit of work,  leaky bellows, buttons that don't depress, reeds that don't sound.  Gary offered to take it back if I wasn't happy with it, so now I'm trying to decide what to do: have it fixed up and sell it, or return it. I'll be taking it up to Button Box this weekend to see what they think, but I'd appreciate any suggestions members of cnet might have. 


    I've attached one picture which doesn't show much, but the others are too large to post here



  7. "Are concertinas fairly difficult to repair?"


    Yes and no. If you can repair a lawn mower, a concertina's not bad, if you have the right parts and tools (I suppose that goes for a lot of things). 


    There's a good book that'll get you started, The Concertina Maintenance Manual, by David Elliott: 



    I've actually replaced a broken spring with a reworked safety pin, but it can get gnarly when you get the end back on and things aren't working the way they should.

  8. You might want to give some thought to what kind of concertina you want: anglo or English. On anglos you get a different note on the pull and the push of the bellows (bisonoric), on English, it’s the same note on pull and push (monosonoric). There are also duet concertinas (also monosonoric), but these might be harder to find. 


    I prefer a challenge, so I’ve opted for anglo, but it also depends on what sort of music you want to play.


    Buying a concertina is a bit risky; aside from the buttons, bellows, and box that you can see, inside there are many small springs, valves, and levers, any of which can (and do) break.


    People selling concertinas on Ebay and other places often have no idea how concertinas are supposed to work, and will advertise an instrument as being in “good condition” just because they can get some sound out of it, even though the bellows won’t hold air and half the buttons are missing.


    You might find something workable for $100, but save yourself some trouble and look for a used Rochelle (anglo), or Jack or Jackie (English) on this site or elsewhere. You might get one for $250.


    Good luck!

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