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FOUND A nice Frank Edgely G/D surfaced and is getting some love in it’s new home. Thanks to those who helped me out.

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Hey all, I’m back here after years of not…anyway, I’m in the market for a mid-range G/D anglo, 30-ish keys, under $2000 (much less would be nice :). I have queries out to a few of the usual dealers, but also want to see if someone here has one festering in a closet. If you have one or have a lead, let me know. Thanks!

**SOLD** - Donation to concertina.net will be forthcoming once everything is finalized.

I may have overestimated the level of interest/value, so....New price! $1920 Domestic shipping still included in the price. International shipping to be split 50/50 with buyer. - Brandon

Thanks Ken for your input, for I have no experience in the area. There's a 5 year warranty mentioned on the website, but no mention of the transferability. J, I do have the original invoice/receipt from the purchase. Also I see that you live Utah which, by concertina standards, is a mere stone's throw away. If you're serious and the only thing between purchasing or not is a trial, and If you're in SLC or closer, I'd be happy to meet half way. Brandon

I'm selling my Morse Geordie 45 button tenor English concertina. This is #1033, which I purchased new from the Button Box in 2013. I have played it about 30-60 minutes/day on most days until a few months ago - always indoors in a climate controlled environment. It is in as-new condition. The only thing that differs from the description on the Button Box website is that I had them put wrist straps on it for me at the time of my original order (see photos). Includes original case. Reason for sale: the recent acquisition of a bandoneon and accordina - I need to focus my efforts and not have an expensive instrument sitting around idle. Edited NEW PRICE as of 25 JUL: $1920, includes domestic shipping within the US, otherwise, to be shared 50/50 with buyer. For an international sale, please know your country’s import duty rules before considering a purchase – it may not be worth it. Please see the Button Box website for full technical description at: http://www.buttonbox.com/morse-geordie.html For a sound sample (nonprofessional playing and recording!), you may go to any of these links: https://soundcloud.com/burro_tuerco/emmas-waltz http://youtu.be/COfSa7CFx_c https://soundcloud.com/burro_tuerco/all-of-me

This isn't expected to be too interesting for most folks, but I'm happy to have taken delivery of a unisonoric Peguri system bandoneon. I'm no purist, and expect this will be an easier learning curve than the bisonoric variety. After just a couple of days, the c-system rows are beginning to make some real sense and I'm delighted. It'll be a fun compliment to the EC. FYI for any interested party, when I emailed Harry Guens last month, he had a trade-in student c-system hybrid bando available...the price was good, but I just couldn't quite bring myself to get it. Contact him if you're interested.

You may enjoy whichever you end up with. I have a Morse tenor and love it. I wouldn't have it any other way. I love the lower octaves and it goes plenty high for most hings.

Thanks for the response Paul. Dan, if you're still looking at this thread, any chance you would consider posting a video of a tune on your bando? It looks a bit tall also. Does it have 3 or 4 reed sets?

Wow! That instrument is a sight to behold... BTW, I just got a response from Uwe Hartenhauer about the modern c-system I had mentioned earlier. Apparently the Klingenthal website is outdated - the c system bando is no longer being produced. I have no idea how many of these contemporary models were made. I'm guessing just a handful.

Paul, Do you have any comment on the ergonomics of this hybrid? The placement of the keys is one of the unique qualities that it really doesn't share with anything else. Any praise or criticism would be interesting to hear about. Of interest to me was the discovery of a unisonoric bando by Klingenthal Akkordeons in some sort of partnership (I think) with German bando maker Hartenhauer. It's like the Guen's hybrid, in that it's based on a c-griff chromatic accordion layout on both sides, except that the buttons are on the flats, like a regular bandoneon. I know nothing else about it at the moment.

...an incarcerated reed?

Thanks all, very useful information. It sounds like the ergonomics have been good for some, not so good for others. I would just need to get my hands on one to find out what it feels like...

So, I know this is veering away from the usual concertina topics... Has anyone here tried and have a review of the Guens student version hybrid (c system) bandoneon? It's the cheaper version made in China. I know they aren't currently in production, just looking for someone who's tried it. Thanks

Yes, I would guess that each note of the Big Red Crabb has reeds in the same octave, but a few cents off each other to give it that wetness more typical of an accordion/melodeon type of creature.

Thanks for the excellent teaching points Geoff. I'm off to the practice space now to give this a go.

Wow. A 3 voice concertina (or accordeophone). I never would've guessed, short of a trip to Minnesota, where the Chemnitzer is what people imagine when they think of concertinas. I'm also looking forward to the sound sample of the one mentioned above. Octaves on the English, as mentioned by Geoff, Wolf, Jody - this is an interval I haven't played with much yet, precisely because of the slightly awkward feeling of playing both sides simultaneously. The great sound makes it worth the effort though.

Jim, I'm actually not looking for anything...at least I have no business looking for anything. I have grown accustomed to and enjoy the EC layout. I really like the fact that it can manage just about any key as easily as any other. I also enjoy the sound, though would sometimes like the option of 2 voices - on the dry side, maybe octaves. If I had significantly more time/money, I might go shopping for a bandoneon - either unisonoric or bisonoric. Truth is however, its no more than an idle fantasy and curiosity. CBA would be too big for my taste.

Brilliant! And I love the nesting of the marionette and mechanism within the board for easy travel. Mine is very awkward by comparison.

I'm sure this has been addressed in the past, but my search has been futile. Is there such a thing as a 2 voice English concertina? Assuming the answer is no, is the closest thing to this concept a unisonoric bandoneon?

Thanks Sarah! It's new to me also and is definitely a whacky art form - that's why I love it. Be sure to check out the excellent examples by Alex Holden and Jody Kruskal in the links from this and a similar earlier thread.

Tootler, thanks for the additional info and the new clip to demonstrate! Now I'm off to practice.

Geoff, Thanks for the explanation. Maybe I'll try playing with the E and B drone for the Em version. I don't really have a reason for not varying the drone. I'm still trying to get my head around what to do with the tune - slow vs. fast and whether to go with straight melody or some attempt at harmony.

I'm wondering about the note choice if one were to use a single drone throughout the tune. From what I can tell, the hurdy gurdy drone can be tuned, but will be static for any given tune. I'm not sure what note would typically be used by a gurdy player. E sounds pretty good, but doesn't seem to match the gurdy YouTube posted earlier. I'm not at all stuck on getting it "right," but wold like to know if there is some norm to be aware of. Thanks