michael sam wild
Oct 23 2008, 06:36 AM
I put a post on melodeon.net asking for some background on this tune and got a nice answer from Greg Stephens of The Boat Band on whose record I heard it
Barry Callaghan's book says it had no name in the book but Greg says it was called Westmoreland and was in 6/8 time from Walsh's book of 1718 before the waltz as a dance was introduced. Greg's band slowed it down and called it WW. It's a lovely slow waltz and a pretty ordinary Jig (IMHO)!
Robin Harrison
Oct 23 2008, 09:09 AM
................and here are the notes for it. Robin
michael sam wild
Oct 26 2008, 01:45 PM
that's the one! thanks.
Mike
Tootler
Oct 26 2008, 03:28 PM
It was in the 1686 Edition of Playford's Dancing Master where it was also called "Westmoreland". It was in 6/4 time in Playford - which can be thought of as similar to 6/8 but with the note values all being doubled.
Although it predates the Waltz, when the Waltz became fashionable quite a number of existing tunes were adapted to the Waltz. This is quite likely what happened with Westmorland.
It's a lovely tune which I play quite a lot - usually on the tenor recorder which it fits beautifully and I have also heard it played on Northumberland pipes. I first heard it on a York Waits CD.
Robin Harrison
Oct 27 2008, 05:06 PM
.......................just out of interest here it is in 6/4 time
I've taken it from the Complete Country Dance Tunes.It's almost identical............but bar 5 is a bit odd ?
Lovely tune,eh. I'm surprided it's not more widely popular...maybe it will be now it's on the Hardcore English Cd etc.
Robin
michael sam wild
Oct 28 2008, 06:07 AM
Thanks Robin and Geoff. The 6/4 must have echoes of a 3/2 hornpipe, I'll try to figure that out, but the waltz is great, I agree.
Dave Prebble
Oct 29 2008, 05:12 AM
If you are looking for a perfect companion for the Westmoreland waltz, try the Sommervals
Dave
.........................................
X: 1
T: Sommarvals
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
R: waltz
K: Gmaj
|:d2c2|B3A G2|A4F2|G6|E3FE2|D2G2A2|c4B2|B2A2G2|A2d3c|
B3A G2|A4F2|G6|E3FE2|D2E2G2|G4F2|G6|G2:|
|:F2G2|A3AA2|A2F2D2|c6|B3AG2|E2ABc2|d3cBA|G2F2G2|A2B3A|
G3AG2|F3GF2|E3FE2|D2G2A2|1B3AG2|A2d2F2|G6|G2:|2c3BAG|A2d2F2|G6|G2||
Recorded by Frifot (Per Gudmundson, Ale Moller, Lena Willemark) on the album Jarven. Also recorded by Old Swan Band and Andrew & Margaret Watchorn
Robin Harrison
Oct 30 2008, 11:52 AM
Nice tune ,Dave.
I've been trying this one,called "Life in the Trenches", to see if it works.It's nice and minory (!) I found it in some on-line ABC collection, which one I now forget.It said it's English but is obviously French in feel.
It also stirs some vague recollection of a theme for a TV programme of my youth . Any ideas ?
Robin
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