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Simon H
I've been using a Centon DSLR camera case for my Wheatstone now for a few months and am delighted with it. RRP is 50 quid but I've seen the same bag on Ebay new for 20. It is well padded, fits the concertina perfectly. Side pockets will take notebooks, recording devices, tools, everthing you might need. Even space to take sheet music etc. I'm sure many other camera cases would work just as well, but for the price this one is very good. Just a thought if you were looking for a good protective case for your precious instrument.

Simon
m3838
QUOTE (Simon H @ Aug 8 2008, 11:16 AM) *
I've been using a Centon DSLR camera case for my Wheatstone now for a few months and am delighted with it. RRP is 50 quid but I've seen the same bag on Ebay new for 20. It is well padded, fits the concertina perfectly. Side pockets will take notebooks, recording devices, tools, everthing you might need. Even space to take sheet music etc. I'm sure many other camera cases would work just as well, but for the price this one is very good. Just a thought if you were looking for a good protective case for your precious instrument.

Simon


Excellent idea, thanks.
Chris Timson
I might give that a whirl too, since I like the idea of carrying a concertina slung over my shoulder. My only concern might be that a camera bag could be an attractive target for a mugger on the grounds that it might contain a camera. sad.gif

Chris
michael stutesman
QUOTE (Chris Timson @ Aug 11 2008, 08:58 AM) *
I might give that a whirl too, since I like the idea of carrying a concertina slung over my shoulder. My only concern might be that a camera bag could be an attractive target for a mugger on the grounds that it might contain a camera. sad.gif

Chris


That's exaclty why I carry my concertina in it's case in a very ordinary looking inexpensive backpack.
Chris Drinkwater
QUOTE (Chris Timson @ Aug 11 2008, 01:58 PM) *
My only concern might be that a camera bag could be an attractive target for a mugger on the grounds that it might contain a camera. sad.gif


I carry my concertina in one of those extra strong plastic orange Sainsbury's supermarket bags - in its hard case of course. That way, it is less likely to attract attention from would be muggers. One day, I turned up at a session with both of my concertinas in supermarket bags and when a fellow sessioneer remarked upon it, I joked that it was part of a buy one get one free offer. If only.

Chris
Rod
Concertina Cases. 30 years I found the perfect answer for my new Anglo. A Samsonite black, hard shelled, plastic case which one would have thought was specifically designed for the purpose. Shock-proof, weather-proof and very smart. I expect they called it a 'Vanity Case' because it was designed to take all those mysterious things which women apply in an attempt to enhance their beauty. A perfect size to allow for a bit of additional padding in the elasticated pockets around the sides, adequate length to allow for loading and unloading the instrument with both hands securely in the straps and plenty of room for spare straps, springs, screwdriver, polish, dusters,lubricant and all the other paraphernalia of the wandering minstrel. It has even got a mirror fitted to the inside of the lid to cater for those who really are vain. Such a splendid Concertina case that I fear that Samsonite will probably have discontinued production after all these years !
m3838
QUOTE (Rod @ Aug 12 2008, 04:00 AM) *
Concertina Cases. 30 years I found the perfect answer for my new Anglo. A Samsonite black, hard shelled, plastic case which one would have thought was specifically designed for the purpose. Shock-proof, weather-proof and very smart. I expect they called it a 'Vanity Case' because it was designed to take all those mysterious things which women apply in an attempt to enhance their beauty. A perfect size to allow for a bit of additional padding in the elasticated pockets around the sides, adequate length to allow for loading and unloading the instrument with both hands securely in the straps and plenty of room for spare straps, springs, screwdriver, polish, dusters,lubricant and all the other paraphernalia of the wandering minstrel. It has even got a mirror fitted to the inside of the lid to cater for those who really are vain. Such a splendid Concertina case that I fear that Samsonite will probably have discontinued production after all these years !

This one?
Rod
QUOTE (m3838 @ Aug 12 2008, 11:09 PM) *
QUOTE (Rod @ Aug 12 2008, 04:00 AM) *
Concertina Cases. 30 years I found the perfect answer for my new Anglo. A Samsonite black, hard shelled, plastic case which one would have thought was specifically designed for the purpose. Shock-proof, weather-proof and very smart. I expect they called it a 'Vanity Case' because it was designed to take all those mysterious things which women apply in an attempt to enhance their beauty. A perfect size to allow for a bit of additional padding in the elasticated pockets around the sides, adequate length to allow for loading and unloading the instrument with both hands securely in the straps and plenty of room for spare straps, springs, screwdriver, polish, dusters,lubricant and all the other paraphernalia of the wandering minstrel. It has even got a mirror fitted to the inside of the lid to cater for those who really are vain. Such a splendid Concertina case that I fear that Samsonite will probably have discontinued production after all these years !

This one?


No M3838. My 30 year old Samsonite is a very neat moulded design, very similar in many ways to what I remember as Samsonite's original briefcase, which was so popular at that time. It's dimensions are ideal for my Anglo and it is a shame that there appears to be nothing comparable on the current Samsonite web site. I could battle through driving rain and probably float it on water with complete confidence ! Does no one at Samsonite play the Concertina ?
Simon H
QUOTE (michael stutesman @ Aug 11 2008, 05:37 PM) *
QUOTE (Chris Timson @ Aug 11 2008, 08:58 AM) *
I might give that a whirl too, since I like the idea of carrying a concertina slung over my shoulder. My only concern might be that a camera bag could be an attractive target for a mugger on the grounds that it might contain a camera. sad.gif

Chris


That's exaclty why I carry my concertina in it's case in a very ordinary looking inexpensive backpack.


I tend not to find myself in situations of perceived risk, usually I drive over to a pub or village hall for a session, get out the car, go in, enjoy myself etc, get back in car drive home. The camera case works a treat for my sort of use. I'm sad that you live under such fear of crime.

Whatever, my point remains - the bag is made as though its designed specifically for this use.

Simon
viejomc
QUOTE (Simon H @ Aug 13 2008, 04:23 AM) *
I tend not to find myself in situations of perceived risk, usually I drive over to a pub or village hall for a session, get out the car, go in, enjoy myself etc, get back in car drive home. The camera case works a treat for my sort of use. I'm sad that you live under such fear of crime.


Simon


A prudent persons foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. - Proverbs 27:12
Simon H
QUOTE (viejomc @ Aug 13 2008, 02:11 PM) *
QUOTE (Simon H @ Aug 13 2008, 04:23 AM) *
I tend not to find myself in situations of perceived risk, usually I drive over to a pub or village hall for a session, get out the car, go in, enjoy myself etc, get back in car drive home. The camera case works a treat for my sort of use. I'm sad that you live under such fear of crime.


Simon


A prudent persons foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. - Proverbs 27:12


Are you seriously implying I am a simpleton for making the suggestion I make and not seeing risk of crime in rural Scotland ?

I'll not bother next time. The negativity here sometimes for a simple suggestion is very off-putting.
viejomc
QUOTE (Simon H @ Aug 13 2008, 08:21 AM) *
QUOTE (viejomc @ Aug 13 2008, 02:11 PM) *
QUOTE (Simon H @ Aug 13 2008, 04:23 AM) *
I tend not to find myself in situations of perceived risk, usually I drive over to a pub or village hall for a session, get out the car, go in, enjoy myself etc, get back in car drive home. The camera case works a treat for my sort of use. I'm sad that you live under such fear of crime.


Simon


A prudent persons foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. - Proverbs 27:12


Are you seriously implying I am a simpleton for making the suggestion I make and not seeing risk of crime in rural Scotland ?

I'll not bother next time. The negativity here sometimes for a simple suggestion is very off-putting.

Please accept my humble apology. I did not intend to ruffle any feathers. My point was that it would be prudent to be prepared. How would I know if you were a wise king or a simpleton?

m3838
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This one?



No M3838.


Ouch! I was going to order one. Thanks for timeley reply. No wonder it looks strange, like a lady's purse, but I'm not a purist. If it works - it works.
m3838
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Are you seriously implying I am a simpleton for making the suggestion I make and not seeing risk of crime in rural Scotland ?

Rural Scotland? The land of camera case snatchers?
Oy Vey!
Rod
QUOTE (m3838 @ Aug 13 2008, 07:47 PM) *
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QUOTE
This one?



No M3838.


Ouch! I was going to order one. Thanks for timeley reply. No wonder it looks strange, like a lady's purse, but I'm not a purist. If it works - it works.


M3838 (Strange Name!) If I could remember how I would send a picture, but what's the point ?




Chris Timson
QUOTE (Simon H @ Aug 13 2008, 10:23 AM) *
I'm sad that you live under such fear of crime.

I do not live under fear of crime, but I do consider myself a prudent person. With regards to my 2 best concertinas, each worth, well, quite a lot and each in different ways virtually irreplaceable to me, then I have to weigh the small risk against the potentially serious consequences. So I try and think about the consequences of my choices in advance. I think that is reasonable whether you live in East Ham or the Falkland Islands.

Chris

PS For the record, I have lived in East Ham but not the Falkland Islands. Bradford on Avon, my current domicile, is a pretty peacable place.
annl
biggrin.gif I've got a 'Guild of Assassins' badge on the front of my concertina case........ no-one's tried to pinch it yet...... and I don't get many complaints about the music ( not twice anyway) laugh.gif
NoNaYet
QUOTE (Rod @ Aug 12 2008, 05:00 AM) *
Concertina Cases. 30 years I found the perfect answer for my new Anglo. A Samsonite black, hard shelled, plastic case which one would have thought was specifically designed for the purpose.


That is a great suggestion. I have been scanning around for a case for a new Tedrow baritone that is on the way. I had an American Tourister case similar to what you describe up in the attic, that I used for checking firearms on commercial flights. I don't do that anymore and it has been idle for several years.

Got it down and it fits the Rochelle perfect. The Tedrow will be a bit smaller, so it should work just fine. Now off to the Jo-Ann craft store for some diamond pattern foam rubber.

Thanks for the suggestion.
spindizzy
QUOTE (NoNaYet @ Aug 14 2008, 02:12 PM) *
QUOTE (Rod @ Aug 12 2008, 05:00 AM) *
Concertina Cases. 30 years I found the perfect answer for my new Anglo. A Samsonite black, hard shelled, plastic case which one would have thought was specifically designed for the purpose.


That is a great suggestion. I have been scanning around for a case for a new Tedrow baritone that is on the way. I had an American Tourister case similar to what you describe up in the attic, that I used for checking firearms on commercial flights. I don't do that anymore and it has been idle for several years.

Got it down and it fits the Rochelle perfect. The Tedrow will be a bit smaller, so it should work just fine. Now off to the Jo-Ann craft store for some diamond pattern foam rubber.

Thanks for the suggestion.



Better clean it - see the terrorist concertina thread !
Stephen Chambers
There have been people using camera bags as concertina bags for many years now, but I wouldn't be keen on them. Concertinas of English construction really need to be kept in a properly made hard case, with corner blocks to keep the bellows firmly closed when not in use, otherwise you risk damaging your expensive instrument and the bellows may tend to become (somewhat) sprung open. If I want to carry my concertina more easily and less conspicuously, I'd put it, in its case, inside a day bag. That's how Alf Edwards' concertina got carried safely to the 'States and around Seattle a few months ago.

I would also worry that a concertina would be more at risk of being stolen if it appears to be a camera, and I'll quote Simon Thoumire, speaking of the theft of his own instrument (in Scotland!) on that score:

QUOTE
February 4, 2001
Some terrible news from Simon Thoumire (via Ken Coles): "My 56 key Wheatstone tenor treble Aeola (metal ends) was stolen on Sunday 21st January from the Glasgow Royal Concert Hall. The serial no. has fallen off the left side but it is recognisable from the big thumbstraps that are hanging loose from the side and also sweat has tarnished the nickel plate on both sides. Another feature which will tell it apart from any other is that the top 'C' on the right side is an air button. I think the person that stole it may have thought it was a camera because of the case. It was stolen from behind my chair as I talked to some friends in the cafeteria. I would appreciate if everybody could look out for this instrument. It is the only instrument I have ever played and I miss it badly."


[My emphasis in red.]
Simon H
QUOTE (Stephen Chambers @ Aug 18 2008, 03:01 AM) *
There have been people using camera bags as concertina bags for many years now, but I wouldn't be keen on them. Concertinas of English construction really need to be kept in a properly made hard case, with corner blocks to keep the bellows firmly closed when not in use, otherwise you risk damaging your expensive instrument and the bellows may tend to become (somewhat) sprung open. If I want to carry my concertina more easily and less conspicuously, I'd put it, in its case, inside a day bag. That's how Alf Edwards' concertina got carried safely to the 'States and around Seattle a few months ago.

I would also worry that a concertina would be more at risk of being stolen if it appears to be a camera, and I'll quote Simon Thoumire, speaking of the theft of his own instrument (in Scotland!) on that score:

QUOTE
February 4, 2001
Some terrible news from Simon Thoumire (via Ken Coles): "My 56 key Wheatstone tenor treble Aeola (metal ends) was stolen on Sunday 21st January from the Glasgow Royal Concert Hall. The serial no. has fallen off the left side but it is recognisable from the big thumbstraps that are hanging loose from the side and also sweat has tarnished the nickel plate on both sides. Another feature which will tell it apart from any other is that the top 'C' on the right side is an air button. I think the person that stole it may have thought it was a camera because of the case. It was stolen from behind my chair as I talked to some friends in the cafeteria. I would appreciate if everybody could look out for this instrument. It is the only instrument I have ever played and I miss it badly."


[My emphasis in red.]


I don't doubt the truth of what you say Stephen, you have way more experience than me in these matters, but I'd make a couple of comments based on my limited experience and use of the Centon case.
As to support of the concertina. I would infinitely prefer the support provided by the camera case which gently supports on all sides and holds the concertina closed, than a hard case such as my original wheatstone or Lachenal cases, whilst they provide corner blocks, as far as I can see all those do is directly transmit knocks and bumps directly to the body of the instrument. If I were to drop my instruments, I know which case I'd prefer them to be in. A hard clamshell case would be fine but for me that has few advantages over the camera type case.

I'm not sure I understand the camera case = valuable argument. I read up as much as I could on concertina theft both in this forum and elsewhere and as far as I can tell he vast majority of thefts were at sessions and festivals, where the thieves knew exactly what they were stealing. The type of case in most cases was immaterial. Likewise in the street, a clamshell, a camera, a concertina case, all look suitably alluring to a mugger. The answer here has to be disguise or not carrying in areas of risk.

Like all here, I'd be very trepidatious of walking certain areas with any sort of case and would probably use a less valuable looking case where necessary.

As for sessions, festivals etc, frankly I watch my instrument like a hawk. I've not been playing long, and the love affair with the instrument is still strong enough that I could not imagine myself leaving it unattended. All the time I see players leave their instruments - a concertina is portable enough not to leave it.

anyway, just my thoughts. Each to their own.

Rod
Concertina Cases. I attach pictures of the case to which I referred under this topic on August 12. Purchased 1979 from a local High Street luggage shop. I have seen nothing similar on the current 'Samsonite' web site. I guess Samsonite were unaware that they were constructing the perfect Concertina case. Such is the superb quality of construction it could well be possible that there are others surviving on the second hand market ?


Am now having trouble attaching the pictures. Have uploaded the file ( two photographs ). They do not appear on the screen.
Help!!! Shall now 'Add Reply' which will probably arrive without pictures ?
Rod
QUOTE (Rod @ Aug 21 2008, 10:08 AM) *
Concertina Cases. I attach pictures of the case to which I referred under this topic on August 12. Purchased 1979 from a local High Street luggage shop. I have seen nothing similar on the current 'Samsonite' web site. I guess Samsonite were unaware that they were constructing the perfect Concertina case. Such is the superb quality of construction it could well be possible that there are others surviving on the second hand market ?


Am now having trouble attaching the pictures. Have uploaded the file ( two photographs ). They do not appear on the screen.
Help!!! Shall now 'Add Reply' which will probably arrive without pictures ?


No pictures as feared. Would be grateful for advice from someone who knows the answer.
Rod
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachment Eureka !
gortinman
QUOTE (Rod @ Aug 21 2008, 10:22 AM) *
QUOTE (Rod @ Aug 21 2008, 10:08 AM) *
Concertina Cases. I attach pictures of the case to which I referred under this topic on August 12. Purchased 1979 from a local High Street luggage shop. I have seen nothing similar on the current 'Samsonite' web site. I guess Samsonite were unaware that they were constructing the perfect Concertina case. Such is the superb quality of construction it could well be possible that there are others surviving on the second hand market ?


Am now having trouble attaching the pictures. Have uploaded the file ( two photographs ). They do not appear on the screen.
Help!!! Shall now 'Add Reply' which will probably arrive without pictures ?


No pictures as feared. Would be grateful for advice from someone who knows the answer.

gortinman
What would be the score about the nice flight type case that comes on the Boorinwood W15MSc anglo which retails around £200 or less, incl the case. This case is Apr 9.5 Cm sq. x 22Cm internal & has a nice carry handle on top. Should cost around £20.
I would be available in Ireland from Steve. Chambers ( Kilkee ), Steam Boat ( Limerick ), Variety Sounds ( Killarney ) Boorinwood Music. or Rikkis Music ( Edinbrugh )
Stephen Chambers
QUOTE (gortinman @ Aug 23 2008, 05:56 PM) *
What would be the score about the nice flight type case that comes on the Boorinwood W15MSc anglo ... This case is Apr 9.5 Cm sq. x 22Cm internal & has a nice carry handle on top. Should cost around £20.
It would be available in Ireland from Steve. Chambers ( Kilkee )...

No it wouldn't... mad.gif
Azalin
QUOTE (Stephen Chambers @ Aug 23 2008, 06:05 PM) *
QUOTE (gortinman @ Aug 23 2008, 05:56 PM) *
What would be the score about the nice flight type case that comes on the Boorinwood W15MSc anglo ... This case is Apr 9.5 Cm sq. x 22Cm internal & has a nice carry handle on top. Should cost around £20.
It would be available in Ireland from Steve. Chambers ( Kilkee )...

No it wouldn't... mad.gif


You're lying, he said it would! dry.gif
Stephen Chambers
QUOTE (Azalin @ Aug 23 2008, 11:24 PM) *
QUOTE (Stephen Chambers @ Aug 23 2008, 06:05 PM) *
QUOTE (gortinman @ Aug 23 2008, 05:56 PM) *
What would be the score about the nice flight type case that comes on the Boorinwood W15MSc anglo ... This case is Apr 9.5 Cm sq. x 22Cm internal & has a nice carry handle on top. Should cost around £20.
It would be available in Ireland from Steve. Chambers ( Kilkee )...

No it wouldn't... mad.gif

You're lying, he said it would! dry.gif

You see what you got me into John! sad.gif

Unfortunately these cases are the wrong shape, and wrong size, to fit any concertina properly, and certainly too flimsy to be considered "flight cases" - but they are cheap! rolleyes.gif
doodle
I realise I'm straying a bit from the " I've found a great case (stealthy or otherwise!) for sensible money" point, but for general info. can I mention that I needed a "real" flight case recently and was a bit stumped for a source? I found that Marcus of Tredegar (well known maker/restorer) sold the real Mcoy for £65 (Sidmouth FF - UK). It fitted a 6.5 inch across the flats 50 key instrument perfectly and it is easy to pop some high density, pre-formed foam inserts inside for a more regular sized anglo - just the job if you want rock-solid protection, but keep a close eye on it, of course. like the other members say.
Tony wink.gif
CheeseNote
I'll bring to your attention the choice of the well-dressed concertina-playing traveller featured on the cover of the February 2008 issue of Boston magazine. A tour of the manufacturer's catalogue site reveals a cost of at least $3400 US. I trust that it is a Wheatstone in there!
Azalin
Just a big thanks to Simon. I recently purchased the stated camera case. I was a bit skeptical at first because the measurements seemed much smaller than my concertina... but it ends up fitting perfectly, and there are extra pockets, so I can also pack my tuner and field recorder, and there's a space on the front where I can put my "D" whistle, after removing the fipple. I just came back from a session and brought my stuff in this bag, I couldnt be more happy.
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