david robertson
Jul 14 2008, 01:32 PM
Come on, own up! Which of you merry pranksters informed the seller of the buttonless German-made Lachenal that it was made by the famous old firm of "Seirffej"? (
See here.)
Remember, it's not fair to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man. On the other hand, maybe anyone who describes a concertina with every button missing as being "in generally good condition" has got it coming.
Stephen Chambers
Jul 14 2008, 01:59 PM
QUOTE (david robertson @ Jul 14 2008, 07:32 PM)

Come on, own up! Which of you merry pranksters informed the seller of the buttonless German-made Lachenal that it was made by the famous old firm of "Seirffej"?
Drat, no wonder it's gone over the 6p I bid on it!
(Well I couldn't bear to see it sitting there with a bid of only 1p on it...

)
QUOTE
... maybe anyone who describes a concertina with every button missing as being "in generally good condition" has got it coming.
Or describing it as a Lachenal for that matter, when it actually states on it that it was 'Made In Germany'? Somebody should tell 'em that Lachenal's trade mark said 'English Make'...
Dirge
Jul 14 2008, 02:37 PM
I think he's fair game; presumably he wouldn't have used all that over-the-top enthusiasm if he didn't think it might con someone? Or does he talk like that all the time?
Wish I'd thought of it.
Jim Besser
Jul 14 2008, 02:38 PM
QUOTE (david robertson @ Jul 14 2008, 02:32 PM)

Come on, own up! Which of you merry pranksters informed the seller of the buttonless German-made Lachenal that it was made by the famous old firm of "Seirffej"? (
See here.)
Remember, it's not fair to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man. On the other hand, maybe anyone who describes a concertina with every button missing as being "in generally good condition" has got it coming.
That is the best Ebay response I've ever seen. Bravo to the author.
wntrmute
Jul 14 2008, 03:24 PM
Was Selrahc Seirffej the inventor of the world-famous and patented buttonless concertina?
It's at 22pounds now. I dunno how many quid.
Daniel Hersh
Jul 14 2008, 03:57 PM
I did write the seller and say that this wasn't a Lachenal because Lachenal didn't make concertinas outside of England. I received no reply and my question wasn't posted on the listing. The one that did get posted is indeed amusing -- but I hope that it doesn't fool any naive buyers into thinking that this concertina is worth a bid.....
QUOTE (Stephen Chambers @ Jul 14 2008, 11:59 AM)

QUOTE (david robertson @ Jul 14 2008, 07:32 PM)

Come on, own up! Which of you merry pranksters informed the seller of the buttonless German-made Lachenal that it was made by the famous old firm of "Seirffej"?
Drat, no wonder it's gone over the 6p I bid on it!
(Well I couldn't bear to see it sitting there with a bid of only 1p on it...

)
QUOTE
... maybe anyone who describes a concertina with every button missing as being "in generally good condition" has got it coming.
Or describing it as a Lachenal for that matter, when it actually states on it that it was 'Made In Germany'? Somebody should tell 'em that Lachenal's trade mark said 'English Make'...

tallship
Jul 14 2008, 05:27 PM
QUOTE (Dirge @ Jul 14 2008, 08:37 PM)

Wish I'd thought of it.
So do I. A keyless Aloea must be worth a mint.
Lisa Wirth
Jul 14 2008, 07:22 PM
Where is Misha when we need him?!?
I'm thinking there should DEFINITELY be some debate on this rare treasure's possible top end price!
Rhomylly
Jul 14 2008, 07:31 PM
Oh, that's a beautiful comment!
But somehow, I don't think the seller gets the joke...
Hooves
Jul 14 2008, 07:41 PM
QUOTE (Lisa Wirth @ Jul 14 2008, 05:22 PM)

I'm thinking there should DEFINITELY be some debate on this rare treasure's possible top end price!

Well I'm sure it will lead to the discovery of many more rare concertinas, including the Enotstaehw, the Lanehcal, and those rare birds by the famous Senoj.
But I'll keep my eye out for a Wordet or a Reppid.
Stephen Chambers
Jul 14 2008, 07:41 PM
QUOTE (Lisa Wirth @ Jul 15 2008, 01:22 AM)

Where is Misha when we need him?!?

QUOTE
I'm thinking there should DEFINITELY be some debate on this rare treasure's possible top end price!

A
much more deserving case!
Lisa Wirth
Jul 15 2008, 06:08 AM
QUOTE (Stephen Chambers @ Jul 14 2008, 08:41 PM)

QUOTE (Lisa Wirth @ Jul 15 2008, 01:22 AM)

Where is Misha when we need him?!?

QUOTE
I'm thinking there should DEFINITELY be some debate on this rare treasure's possible top end price!

A
much more deserving case!

A Picture is worth a thousand words!
dwinterfield
Jul 15 2008, 07:50 AM
Well I was certainly fooled!! I guessed it was probably an early unsuccessful attempt at a concertina version of a player piano. No buttons required. Just move the bellows and out comes the music. It looks to old to be a digital, bluetooth instrument.
Chris Timson
Jul 15 2008, 08:00 AM
QUOTE (Hooves @ Jul 15 2008, 01:41 AM)

Well I'm sure it will lead to the discovery of many more rare concertinas, including the Enotstaehw, the Lanehcal, and those rare birds by the famous Senoj.
Or indeed the modern makers Wordet and Esrom ...
Chris
tallship
Jul 15 2008, 11:44 AM
I really fancy a nice new Rekkaw 1-EW baritone meself or even a Renttus if one came along. I don't think either of them are up to keyless technology though.
Robin Harrison
Jul 15 2008, 11:58 AM
QUOTE
Concertina Musical Instrument - A/f!
This was the part I enjoyed the most.
Who among us cannot put his hand up and say "
f! is key I struggle with ?"
Robin!
Rhomylly
Jul 15 2008, 01:45 PM
Don't forget the Yelgde concertina! Very Danish-sounding!
Stephen Chambers
Jul 15 2008, 03:33 PM
QUOTE (Robin Harrison @ Jul 15 2008, 05:58 PM)

QUOTE
Concertina Musical Instrument - A/f!
This was the part I enjoyed the most.
Robin,
Not the key, but a bit of
antique-dealer-speak, meaning "as found", though the less charitable might translate it as "all faults"...
wntrmute
Jul 15 2008, 04:33 PM
Though A/Fb is theoretically possible..... Gotta love those tunes in Fb minor.
rob_mcsweeney
Jul 18 2008, 11:49 AM
If he's getting £22, if not more, for that heap of junk then the seller IS getting the last laugh.
Irene S
Jul 18 2008, 02:37 PM
Actually, with 29 minutes or so to go, it's now up to £39.99 !
Steve_freereeder
Jul 18 2008, 06:41 PM
QUOTE (Irene S @ Jul 18 2008, 08:37 PM)

Actually, with 29 minutes or so to go, it's now up to £39.99 !
Blimey - it went for £70!
Did anyone on this forum buy it? Why?
Stephen Chambers
Jul 18 2008, 10:12 PM
QUOTE (Steve_freereeder @ Jul 19 2008, 12:41 AM)

Blimey - it went for £70!
Did anyone on this forum buy it?
Not me anyway, I never went over my original 6p bid (that's 1p for each side!)
The "lucky buyer" seems to only buy DVDs otherwise, and is a Simpson's fan. (Of course, there was a concertina maker called Simpson...

)
QUOTE
Why?
Dunno!
Daniel Hersh
Jul 18 2008, 10:50 PM
I hope they didn't buy it because they didn't get the joke and thought that the jokester was serious that it's a valuable instrument...
QUOTE (Steve_freereeder @ Jul 18 2008, 04:41 PM)

QUOTE (Irene S @ Jul 18 2008, 08:37 PM)

Actually, with 29 minutes or so to go, it's now up to £39.99 !
Blimey - it went for £70!
Did anyone on this forum buy it? Why?
HallelujahAl!
Jul 20 2008, 11:36 AM
QUOTE (Daniel Hersh @ Jul 19 2008, 04:50 AM)

I hope they didn't buy it because they didn't get the joke and thought that the jokester was serious that it's a valuable instrument...
QUOTE (Steve_freereeder @ Jul 18 2008, 04:41 PM)

QUOTE (Irene S @ Jul 18 2008, 08:37 PM)

Actually, with 29 minutes or so to go, it's now up to £39.99 !
Blimey - it went for £70!
Did anyone on this forum buy it? Why?
It appears that a number of 'old sayings' that immediately spring to mind are true: I'll kick things off with "there's one born every minute"...over to you...
Stephen Chambers
Jul 20 2008, 01:09 PM
QUOTE (HallelujahAl! @ Jul 20 2008, 05:36 PM)

I'll kick things off with "there's one born every minute"...
"...and two born to look after 'em"
Chris Timson
Jul 21 2008, 08:07 AM
A fool and his money are soon parted.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Show a lemming a cliff and he'll jump off it.
(Actually I made up the last one).
Chris
Stephen Chambers
Jul 21 2008, 09:42 AM
QUOTE (Chris Timson @ Jul 21 2008, 02:07 PM)

A fool and his money are soon parted.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Never Give a Sucker an Even Break.
QUOTE
Show a lemming a cliff and he'll jump off it.
(Actually I made up the last one).
'Fraid not,
Walt Disney made up that myth...
Gerry
Jul 22 2008, 05:29 AM
QUOTE (HallelujahAl! @ Jul 20 2008, 05:36 PM)

It appears that a number of 'old sayings' that immediately spring to mind are true: I'll kick things off with "there's one born every minute"...over to you...
Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.
Chris Timson
Jul 22 2008, 01:21 PM
QUOTE (Stephen Chambers @ Jul 21 2008, 03:42 PM)

Fraid not,
Walt Disney made up that myth...

Well aware of it, mate. To my mind that double qualifies my saying for prime time. After all, no man is an island or indeed any other geographical feature. Two wrongs don't make a rite and you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him jump.
Chris
Leo
Jul 22 2008, 02:15 PM
How about "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"
and "One mans trash is another mans treasure".
I was under the impression, the lemmings supposed myth came from the northern part of Europe, and was part of the Pied Piper of Hamelin fairy tale, and was part of rodent population explosion, and migration.
Thanks
Leo
Stephen Chambers
Jul 22 2008, 06:30 PM
QUOTE (Stephen Chambers @ Jul 21 2008, 03:42 PM)

QUOTE (Chris Timson @ Jul 21 2008, 02:07 PM)

Show a lemming a cliff and he'll jump off it.
(Actually I made up the last one).
'Fraid not,
Walt Disney made up that myth...
1st lemming: Let's jump off the treadmill of life!
2nd lemming: It's not "Walt Disney"...
Chris Timson
Jul 23 2008, 01:05 PM
QUOTE (Stephen Chambers @ Jul 21 2008, 03:42 PM)

'Fraid not,
Walt Disney made up that myth...

Actually, the myth, if myth it is, is a lot older than the film. This is from a book I was reading earlier today:-
QUOTE
Like those little rodents whose migration becomes barred by an encroachment of the sea, so that annually they drowned themselves in thousands, the First Men helplessly continued in their ritualistic behaviour; but unlike the lemmings, they were human enough to be oppressed by unbelief, un unbelief which, moreover, they dared not recognise.
The book is Last and First Men by Olaf Stapledon. It was written in 1930.
Chris
HallelujahAl!
Jul 23 2008, 02:23 PM
QUOTE (Chris Timson @ Jul 22 2008, 07:21 PM)

QUOTE (Stephen Chambers @ Jul 21 2008, 03:42 PM)

Fraid not,
Walt Disney made up that myth...

Well aware of it, mate. To my mind that double qualifies my saying for prime time. After all, no man is an island or indeed any other geographical feature. Two wrongs don't make a rite and you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him jump.
Chris
Ye gods, what have I done?!
Chris Drinkwater
Jul 25 2008, 04:32 AM
QUOTE (Stephen Chambers @ Jul 23 2008, 12:30 AM)

QUOTE (Stephen Chambers @ Jul 21 2008, 03:42 PM)

QUOTE (Chris Timson @ Jul 21 2008, 02:07 PM)

Show a lemming a cliff and he'll jump off it.
(Actually I made up the last one).
'Fraid not,
Walt Disney made up that myth...
1st lemming: Let's jump off the treadmill of life!
2nd lemming: It's not "Walt Disney"...

This reminds me of the old saying:
A lemming and his cliff are soon parted. And a joke about Walt Disney.
What's the difference between Bob Hope and Walt Disney? Bing sings, Walt disney!Chris
Anglo-Irishman
Jul 25 2008, 08:23 AM
QUOTE (HallelujahAl! @ Jul 20 2008, 06:36 PM)

QUOTE (Daniel Hersh @ Jul 19 2008, 04:50 AM)

I hope they didn't buy it because they didn't get the joke and thought that the jokester was serious that it's a valuable instrument...
QUOTE (Steve_freereeder @ Jul 18 2008, 04:41 PM)

QUOTE (Irene S @ Jul 18 2008, 08:37 PM)

Actually, with 29 minutes or so to go, it's now up to £39.99 !
Blimey - it went for £70!
Did anyone on this forum buy it? Why?
It appears that a number of 'old sayings' that immediately spring to mind are true: I'll kick things off with "there's one born every minute"...over to you...
What about: "You can lead a horse to the water, but you can't make him drink. Lead a man to the water, hold a pistol to his head, and he'll drink the trough dry." I just wonder what method of coercion (or persuasion) caused someone to buy a buttonless concertina for 70 quid ...
Cheers,
John
malcolm clapp
Jul 25 2008, 11:24 PM
QUOTE (Anglo-Irishman @ Jul 25 2008, 09:23 AM)

I just wonder what method of coercion (or persuasion) caused someone to buy a buttonless concertina for 70 quid ...
Cheers,
John
Maybe the previous one he bought was so shot that only the buttons were worth saving....
MC
(currently building a Hohner Pokerwork melodeon from bits of 4 damaged ones)
Anglo-Irishman
Jul 26 2008, 04:30 AM
QUOTE (malcolm clapp @ Jul 26 2008, 06:24 AM)

QUOTE (Anglo-Irishman @ Jul 25 2008, 09:23 AM)

I just wonder what method of coercion (or persuasion) caused someone to buy a buttonless concertina for 70 quid ...
Cheers,
John
Maybe the previous one he bought was so shot that only the buttons were worth saving....
MC
(currently building a Hohner Pokerwork melodeon from bits of 4 damaged ones)
Malcolm,
Your reply just shows the validity of one of my favourite philosophical axioms: "Whatever IS, is logical." Sometimes you have to really search for the logic behind something, but in this case, you might just have found it

Cheers,
John
tallship
Jul 27 2008, 02:09 PM
QUOTE (malcolm clapp @ Jul 26 2008, 05:24 AM)

MC
(currently building a Hohner Pokerwork melodeon from bits of 4 damaged ones)
Now there's tragic!
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