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Peter Stephenson
Check this out.
Anyone have any further input ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...3756927351&rd=1
Geoffrey Crabb
Hi Peter,
believe it or not, I still have some of that red leather.

Geoff
malcolm clapp
So, Geoff, can you tell us a bit about this particular concertina?
I'm sure it would be of interest to many c.netters.
Or would it perhaps be politic to wait until after the auction closes?
Dave Prebble
Hi Geoff,

Are they this colour 'in the wild' or do they turn red when boiled in salt water ??
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Be lucky

Dave
Chris Timson
QUOTE(Dave Prebble @ Oct 26 2004, 03:47 AM)
Are they this colour 'in the wild' or do they turn red when boiled in salt water ??

Perhaps you could try the experiment and report back on your results ohmy.gif

Chris
Geoffrey Crabb
QUOTE(malcolm clapp @ Oct 25 2004, 09:12 PM)
So, Geoff, can you tell us a bit about this particular concertina?
I'm sure it would be of interest to many c.netters.
Or would it perhaps be politic to wait until after the auction closes?

Hi Malcolm, I think it would be better to wait although the recorded details of the instrument, like most Crabbs are very basic. I believe the owner can be contacted via Ebay with any questions. We also made a Powder blue version which may have been the third instrument in the trio.
Alan Day
Dave is this part of your on going experiment of concertina dipping ?The first being your Jeffries in the Manchester Ship canal.
I am sure we will all be interested in your final report on this subject?
Al wink.gif
JimLucas
QUOTE(Alan Day @ Oct 27 2004, 12:04 AM)
Dave is this part of your on going experiment of concertina dipping ?The first being your Jeffries in the Manchester Ship canal.
I am sure we will all be interested in your final report on this subject?

And have you, Alan, ever tried a chocolate-dipped concertina? cool.gif
Alan Day
Yes Jim
The reeds get stuck in your teeth.
Al rolleyes.gif
Dave Prebble
QUOTE(Alan Day @ Oct 26 2004, 10:04 PM)
Dave is this part of your on going experiment of concertina dipping ?The first being your Jeffries in the Manchester Ship canal.
I am sure we will all be interested in your final report on this subject?
Al wink.gif

Hi to Alan and Chris,
Despite prolonged effort and not a little guile, I was unable to raise the temperature of the Macclesfield canal to boiling point, so the original series of experiments was sadly abandoned.
Notwithstanding the current resurgence in interest, there appears to be a shortage of willing 'guinea pigs' amongst concertina owners. Being reluctant to give up the crusade for knowledge, I now intend to conduct the next series of experiments by boiling accordions in waters of varying salinity.
It will also be interesting to determine whether the 'screams' often reported to occur at the moment of immersion, emanate from the accordion itself or are in fact screams of delight from onlooking concertina players.
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Be lucky
Dave
JimLucas
QUOTE(Dave Prebble @ Oct 27 2004, 12:43 PM)
It will also be interesting to determine whether the 'screams' often reported to occur at the moment of immersion, emanate from the accordion itself or are in fact screams of delight from onlooking concertina players.

I'm sure it's really just a Bernoulli-Doppler effect. wink.gif
Dave Prebble
QUOTE(JimLucas @ Oct 27 2004, 11:32 AM)
QUOTE(Dave Prebble @ Oct 27 2004, 12:43 PM)
It will also be interesting to determine whether the 'screams' often reported to occur at the moment of immersion, emanate from the accordion itself or are in fact screams of delight from onlooking concertina players.

I'm sure it's really just a Bernoulli-Doppler effect. wink.gif

Jim,
To be sure is not good I think. These matters must be prooved !
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Be lucky

Dave
d.elliott
I don't think its good to think either......er, hmm

I don't think its good to.............err,

I don't think

D
Alan Day
Sorry Dave I missed that can you repeat it.
Ta
Al rolleyes.gif
JimLucas
QUOTE(d.elliott @ Oct 27 2004, 11:13 PM)
I don't think its good to.............err,

But to.............err is human!
You don't think it's good to be human? unsure.gif
(Err.... Maybe it's not good to ask. unsure.gif unsure.gif)

Edited, because I decided I hadn't err..ed enough. wink.gif
Stephen Chambers
QUOTE(JimLucas @ Oct 27 2004, 11:32 AM)
I'm sure it's really just a Bernoulli-Doppler effect. wink.gif

I didn't even know Bernoulli-Doppler made accordions ! Are they Italian ? rolleyes.gif

Cheers,
Peter Stephenson
Further to Daves experiments with bioling water, I hear rumours that in certain 'chippies' in Scotland One can purchase concertinas deep-fried in batter.
A danger to health if you ask me, much better to toss lightly in olive oil.
Peter Brook
QUOTE(JimLucas @ Oct 27 2004, 12:32 PM)
I'm sure it's really just a Bernoulli-Doppler effect. wink.gif

Not sure about the relationship here Jim.

As I understand it the Bernoulli equation relates to airflow (or movements in fluids - at least it did in my degree - airspeed instruments on aircraft work on the principles described by this equation), whilst doppler effect is to do with the wavelength of light, sound etc. "blue shifting" or "red shifting" relative to your observation. ( dry.gif is this the tongue in cheek smily?)
Pete Dickey
"Doppler Effect"! So now we know one of the Crabb secrets in being able to make both red and blue concertinas. I suppose the speed of manufacture of each type varied from extremely fast to very slow. wink.gif

Pete
JimLucas
QUOTE(Peter Brook @ Oct 28 2004, 02:27 PM)
QUOTE(JimLucas)
I'm sure it's really just a Bernoulli-Doppler effect. wink.gif
Not sure about the relationship here Jim.

Bernoulli described the effect of something moving past you.
Doppler described the effect of something moving toward or in away from you.
Einstein's the one who said everything's relative. tongue.gif
Heisenberg may have said something about Einstein's relatives, but it's uncertain. unsure.gif
Now you know why they screamed. ohmy.gif
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