Today was the day that I finally figured out that if I continued to scroll down in the discussion forum I could read more current replies (yes, I am technologically "disadvantaged".) So it is with great fascination that I read the lengthy discussion on the $1625 Mahogany versus Rosewood-ended concertina since I am the one that bought it. It was quite the scary venture for me since I am, indeed, a relative beginner who had gone in search of an instrument with real "concertina" reeds while I "wait out" the two year list for a Kensington. The instrument arrived from Juliette Daum in France. A reed had popped out, possibly in shipping, which I was able to take care of. However, there are still three problematic buttons on the far right side that I am trying to troubleshoot. Are there any questions that you would like to ask me that might put an end to your Mahogany vs Rosewood debate? Unfortunately I don't know much about woods. However, I do think that it's been re-stained because the wear areas are the same color as the rest of the ends. It also appears to have and eighth inch veneer.
Here is a copy of the only email I received from Judy after she received the concertina:
"I just wanted to thank you for the wonderful CD
that you sent with the concertina. I am also
happy with the instrument. Did you notice the
lively debate about it on Concertina.net? I had
to replace a loose reed and blow on three
others and now all are playing. Best of luck
with your music. Judy"
About the wood on the ends. I noticed that all the comments on the wood being Mahogany issued from U.K. members.
To answer Judies statement, "However, I do think that it's been re-stained because the wear areas are the same color as the rest of the ends.".
Why would this fact indicate restained wood? If the finish is worn off and the color remains the same, that indicates that the wood is not stained! Which was indeed the fact in this case. The finish was clear or nearly clear French Polish and when it wore off down to the Rosewood verneer, it remained the same color as the Rosewood. Amazing! There was a very small amount of "Vernis égalisateur" applied to freshen up the finish.
In the photos I have marked the Mahogany with a green/gray dot so that you can tell the difference. In fact this is a good way to learn the difference in appearance between Rosewood and Mahogany. You can see the wood under the verneer is light coloured and there are no signs of staining. For myself, I don't care what you experts think, but I am concerned that your careless thoughts might hurt Judy, the buyers feelings and others who know it is Rosewood. Remember in Monty Pythons "Holy Grail" when they come upon the Castle occupied by the French. Remember what the French said! I say that to you@!
Somewhere In the thread above it is mentioned that Lachenal employed people to fake finishes on the cheap instruments. This is one of the SILLYEST comments I have ever read on the C.net. But I know that some silly boys do have wild imaginations and I laughed a lot thinking of the great artists who got their start sitting in a corner of Lachenal's shop painting Rosewood patterns onto the Mahogany to deceive the customers and save Tupence in the pursuit of their devious scheme. You see, there is no offering of 'faux" finishes in any of Lachenals price lists and so is this yet another example of "nasty foreigners" (that immigrant scoundrel Belgian, French, Swiss, or whatever) comming to our noble kingdom and taking advantage of our naive and childlike innocence by selling us fake Rosewood concertinas?
Then there were posts by people who couldn't really see........ what they were claiming to know all about. So I'm going to post some photos that might help. Perhaps these same people can speak up and admit their mistake or haste to claim knowledge with little evidence!!!!!!!! Yet another innocent victim sent to the gallows "humor".
My only concern when posting was to protect the "ïnnocent buyer" from misleading statements that cast a negative shadow on the instrument. I think some of those people posting did a disservice to others with their claimed knowledge and expertise.
The wood on the ends is Rosewood. It is not stained. There is no sign that it was ever any other way. You can see the lighter wood, that is Mahogany, underneath in the fretwork when viewed from the sides. You can see the grain of the Rosewood from the end around the edges and you can see where it ends at the Mahogany. For those of you who do not know much about woods, I assure you that it is nearly impossible to end the staining exactly at the junction of the two woods. To do so would be very complicated and require so much effort that it would be a very silly thing to attempt to do.
Next is the assumption that Rosewood was so exclusive a wood that they would immitate it in this manner. Rosewood was very abundant in those times and even today it could be considered easy to find when the size of a concertina is so small. They made, and still do make, knife handles, carpenters tools, kitchen utensils, and so on from Rosewood. Some of the grain was very swirly and exotic and some was more straight grained plainer variety. There is no question in my mind that the verneers were bought from a supplyer already glued up to the Mahogany and then selected and cut out by Lachenal. Or, perhaps, the ends were supplied already cut out by a supplyer to Lachenal. In any case why some, not all, of you are willing to make statements that are misleading and negative is a mystery to me.
I hope you will not be so willing to do this to others in the future although I do understand that PeterT's post was provocative and I was more than a little shocked when I read it as I thought it was 'over the top" in trying to boost interest in my sale.
I am making another post concerning this thread and it's origin.