well jim alot of people here in ireland drive in the middle of the road,...
Probably not in downtown Dublin, though. The importance of different rules and conventions can vary with the context.
likewise it was a convention when i was aboy growing up in england to stand for god save the queen,but we refused to do so.
In fact, you who refused to stand created your own convention, which was to defy the other convention.
some conventions need to be challenged...
Indeed! As I recall, it was just such a challenge that led to the separate country now known as The United States of America.
The difficult thing is judging which conventions should be challenged, which followed, and which possibly just ignored. Of course, at least some conventions will be judged to belong in different of those three categories depending on who is doing the judging... or simply on the context.
here in west cork people use the roads for playing bowls on,now this wouldnt be very sensible on the m 25 in england
I dare say the West Cork Irish would observe a no-bowls convention on the M25 if they found themselves there.
...just because some eejit in early computer days...
One of my own rules is to never insult a person unless I know enough about them to know whether the insult is appropriate.
...invented this rule about SHOUTING...
Actually, it is unlikely that one person or even a small group of people were responsible for establishing the all-caps-equals-shouting convention. The usual procedure was/is that someone would make a suggestion, those interested would discuss it, and then it would be either adopted or rejected by general consensus. (Back then there were few enough people involved in the process that that could work for this sort of convention. Even today a similar process is used to develop protocols for email, HTML, and other widely used internet communications procedures.)
...do we have to slavishly follow it.
No we don't. But most of us do follow it (not "slavishly"), because it provides a way to avoid unintended offense and ill-feeling as we communicate on the internet. It is a convention which allows one to add additional meaning to a typed message. After all, the real value of this convention is not that it discourages people from using all caps, but that it makes it possible to "shout" if and when one feels that shouting is appropriate.
Look at all thes e c rules about donkeys having to have passports,no one asked the donkeys,if people can fake ordinary passports they will have no problem faking donkey pasports .the law is an ass,and so are most of these rules.
I don't agree with you. There are many good rules and good laws, as well as many bad ones. A rule requiring that donkeys have passports may be one of the bad ones, though it's not one that directly affects me personally. But the important thing is to be able to intelligently decide which laws, rules, and conventions to honor and which to ignore or fight against. Breaking rules simply because they are rules
is a good way to cause harm to both yourself and others.
Just like correct spelling, capitalization, and punctuation, I observe the caps-equals-shouting convention because I think it conveys useful information and thereby promotes understanding and (usually) harmony among the C.net members. Of course, that only works if other members also know and obsesrve that convention, but it seems to me that most do.
There are lots of usually-unspoken conventions that are generally observed here on Concertina.net, because they help keep it a friendly place. Some of these conventions are about things we avoid in order to not offend each other unnecessarily, e.g., insults, belittling, pomposity, partisan politics and religion. Another convention is that one should not assume that apparent offense is intended, but should check with the poster for clarification. Deliberate offense is rare here, and anyone who practices it is likely to be severely criticized by the other members.
I wonder what additional rules or conventions others think we have here, and the reasons they think we have them. Anyone?