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#19 BruceB

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Posted 18 October 2003 - 11:49 PM

For facilitation of press work and release of 4th finger you don't need the whole concept...you could start with a 'cushion' or part support for the fleshy part of the palm on the thumb side...say 10-15mm high...try a little wooden piece with some felt on the top (and underneath too to protect the end plate surface).The piece could be about 30x40mm or so.

Goran,
Yes, Ive seen your article and pictures. I'm going to play around with the idea of a palm support some more, but I don't want to drill any holes in or damage the finish of my concertina. I also am not currently willing to devote a whole lot of time to experimenting with this as that will mean less time I'm playing.

There were two reasons why I started removing my little finger from the rest. The first reason was it was the only way I could play some parts in Dancing With Ma Baby. The other reason is Simon Thoumire. I love his playing. After reading about his technique I started playing a little bit without using the rests. I haven't tried rotating the concertina and playing with my fingers running up & down the columns instead of across, like he does. His method of holding the instrument is very detached & free. Like you, he doesn't use the finger rest, but the rest of his technique seems very different from yours, at least as I understand it.

I really have no idea where I'll go with this.
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#20 goran rahm

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Posted 19 October 2003 - 02:05 PM

Bruce:"Yes, Ive seen your article and pictures. I'm going to play around with the idea of a palm support some more, but I don't want to drill any holes in or damage the finish of my concertina. I also am not currently willing to devote a whole lot of time to experimenting with this as that will mean less time I'm playing. "

Goran now: I never drill any holes in the instrument either. I fasten the support by means of three endbolts. A friend of mine has fastened his support (like what I suggesed..about 30x40mm) with just a leather flap underneath the thumbstrap.
You don't need to experiment a lot..if you copy my 'concept' with some instructions it will take just a couple of hours to make the whole device and it may save hundreds of hours in easier practise....

Bruce:"There were two reasons why I started removing my little finger from the rest. The first reason was it was the only way I could play some parts in Dancing With Ma Baby. The other reason is Simon Thoumire."

Goran:Well..any excuse to liberate the 4th finger is good in my opinion...:-) but I can't help saying that Simon Thoumire's way of holding the instrument is fairly absurd...."detached and free" ....yes in a way, but hardly suitable to copy....it surely works for himself though....it may work for someone else of course...but recommendable methods ought to be based on 'common' . His rotation of the instrument working the keyboard in a transverse way however has a great deal of attraction particularly for polyphonic playing. Compare the comfortable orientation of the Anglo keyboards.Some very good old time English players I've met did rotate the instrument a great deal (clockwise looking at the left end) in order to get better access to the lower notes.




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