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#1 Collectauke

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Posted 27 April 2017 - 03:36 AM

Hello. Hoping Mr Geoffrey Crabb can give me more info on 10473 a 30 key Anglo 6 fold original bellows.Very simple design with black painted ends..Sound is superb to my ears and can be played with only the smallest amount of bellows movement.I love it.....just one point is that the keys don't seem to have cross bushings although I have never opened it up to properly see.
In brown leather crabb case with lable....I am guessing at 1948 ish the year of my birth
Thanking you in anticipation. Robert

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Posted 27 April 2017 - 01:16 PM

Mr. Geoff Crabb is facing a few health problems currently and may take some time to respond to any emails.

 

From what I know is that several hundred of the cheaper or budget Crabb anglo's were made and sent to South Africa from between 1933 and 1953.  These cheaper Crabb concertinas were made with wooden ends and and many with crude metal ends....but Geoff will insist that his family always used the best steel to make the reeds....the Crabb family made excellent steel reeds.  The crude wooden or steel ends were made in such a way to save the buyer some money...hence the budget Crabb concertina.



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Posted 27 April 2017 - 01:52 PM

Well. Sorry to hear about Mr Crabb.....hope he soon gets better
.I have now had it apart and the keys have very small cross holes and imo could not be bushed .They hold upright very well and moved smoothly ......There are Crabb stamps on various parts and manufacturing numbers here and there 8. 20. 10. to name some....
The reed holding board internals appear to be quality birdseye maple and quilted maple The reeds are brass and steel in mint condition...the instrument plays brilliantly.....quite comparable even to my Jeffries..the reeds must be top class and they are spot on tuned......I have no reason to believe the concertina has ever been to SA.....
If this is a budget model it can only refer to the ends being painted to avoid polishing costs...
thanks for your reply...
.hope Geoff can tell me more when he recovers....
Thanks for now
regards. Robert

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 08:43 AM

It would be very much appreciated if Anyone out there has the specific year for Crabb 10473 and any ledger specifics...

I am sure Crabb didn't advertise them as "budget model" with all that the wording would intentionally or unintentionally imply. Perhaps they were just advertised with a model number as exceptional value for money. I believe the same internals were used on all of the various models so any difference would be on the whole cosmetic as for example the differences between Gibson Fern F5L ...F5G....F9. Mandolin models. which vary by adornments rather than quality.

I Would really appreciate specific info on my instrument only rather than wether my views are right or wrong.....

I Am basing my comparative judgement on the instruments I am lucky enough to possess which are more than one of all the above mandolins and my eight very high end concertinas made by ALL the top makers both old and new.
This Crabb is up there in sound and playability.
...If I see another looked after instrument of this painted model I would buy it without hesitation.They are probably the best value for money 30 key Anglo going....that should put the price up!
Do hope Mr.Crabb can read my enthusiasm over one of his families instruments.
Get well soon...
..Robert

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 12:46 PM

Have had a personal message from Geoff who will assist me with this soon....he says 1949/50. More info to follow....thanks so much Geoff...tried to reply to you but it came back undeliverable....robert

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 10:13 AM

Have had a personal message from Geoff who will assist me with this soon....he says 1949/50. More info to follow....thanks so much Geoff...tried to reply to you but it came back undeliverable....robert

Got that reply message OK, Robert

 

Geoff


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Posted 02 May 2017 - 02:21 PM

Thanks for acknowledging Geoff. Regards. Robert

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 04:00 PM

Geoff.....Just keeping this one current with a reply...... more info on 10473 would be appreciated when you feel up to it.....i have given it knurled brass screw fitted straps and also for the first time spent today cutting and fitting black and gold bellows papers.....I love this concertina.....Being an instrument collector its important in my little world to know more  proper specs and in particular the model name or number in the Crabb line up in the late 1940's. A copy of and old Crabb advert with specifics would be the ideal...  cheers for now    Robertimage.jpg

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 05:30 AM

Has anyone else got an advert of the Crabb range of anglos that I could copy listing them for sale in 1949? Robert




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