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Tune Of The Month, May 2015: Da Slockit Light


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#37 Wolf Molkentin

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Posted 05 May 2015 - 04:26 PM

Hi Bob,

 

albeit positively liking your overdubbed takes, this is the real stuff as for me, thank you for recording and posting!

 

Best wishes - Wolf



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Posted 05 May 2015 - 04:36 PM

One hour later. I played along with Jim's in G version and found the tune is all there on the right hand. It would have been easier if I'd transposed it. Many, many takes later, with same G/D, Wheatstone layout:

 

 

https://soundcloud.c...ght-in-g-on-g-d



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Posted 05 May 2015 - 04:48 PM

One hour later. I played along with Jim's in G version and found the tune is all there on the right hand. It would have been easier if I'd transposed it. Many, many takes later, with same G/D, Wheatstone layout:

 

 

https://soundcloud.c...ght-in-g-on-g-d

 

 

Sorry, Graham, but I much prefer your earlier version in D. G is too squeaky, for one thing.

 

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Posted 05 May 2015 - 05:11 PM

A forum member asked me to do a solo version, without the distraction of overdubbed instruments. Happy to oblige:

http://youtu.be/V_JgWBhmVuM

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Beautiful in its simplicity, the harmonies are strong and very distinctive. A wonderful setting of the tune.



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Posted 05 May 2015 - 05:53 PM

Playing around with the tune a little. On the G/D Anglo, the only alternative to D is to play it in G - with most of the melody in the A part on the left side.  Still looking for the chording I want.  Sorta cool, but I don't think it really works.

 

https://dl.dropboxus..._low_Besser.MP3

 

Played in G on a Jeffries 30 button G/D Anglo.

 

Don't seem to be able to open or download the file, Jim.



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Posted 05 May 2015 - 06:53 PM

 

Playing around with the tune a little. On the G/D Anglo, the only alternative to D is to play it in G - with most of the melody in the A part on the left side.  Still looking for the chording I want.  Sorta cool, but I don't think it really works.

 

https://dl.dropboxus..._low_Besser.MP3

 

Played in G on a Jeffries 30 button G/D Anglo.

 

Don't seem to be able to open or download the file, Jim.

 

 

 

Not sure why - the link is opening fine on this end.

 

I'll try uploading it to Soundcloud later.



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Posted 06 May 2015 - 09:52 AM

Playing around with the tune a little. On the G/D Anglo, the only alternative to D is to play it in G - with most of the melody in the A part on the left side.  Still looking for the chording I want.  Sorta cool, but I don't think it really works.

 

https://dl.dropboxus..._low_Besser.MP3

 

Played in G on a Jeffries 30 button G/D Anglo.

 

Jim, it should be possible to play it while keeping the melody entirely on the right hand in G on a G/D, although it'll involve a fair amount of playing across the rows. I'm guessing that your instrument doesn't have a high C - but if you double some of the other high notes an octave lower you bring about a kind of trompe l'oreille, and no-one will miss that top C. If I get chance tonight I'll demonstrate what I mean.



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Posted 06 May 2015 - 10:12 AM

 

Playing around with the tune a little. On the G/D Anglo, the only alternative to D is to play it in G - with most of the melody in the A part on the left side.  Still looking for the chording I want.  Sorta cool, but I don't think it really works.

 

https://dl.dropboxus..._low_Besser.MP3

 

Played in G on a Jeffries 30 button G/D Anglo.

 

Jim, it should be possible to play it while keeping the melody entirely on the right hand in G on a G/D, although it'll involve a fair amount of playing across the rows. I'm guessing that your instrument doesn't have a high C - but if you double some of the other high notes an octave lower you bring about a kind of trompe l'oreille, and no-one will miss that top C. If I get chance tonight I'll demonstrate what I mean.

 

 

You're right, but it's awkward and involves successive notes played with the right pinkie, at least on a Jeffries system Anglo.  Still, I should give it a go because it offers some nice options for chording and runs. Just being lazy.



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Posted 06 May 2015 - 08:20 PM


Jim, it should be possible to play it while keeping the melody entirely on the right hand in G on a G/D, although it'll involve a fair amount of playing across the rows. I'm guessing that your instrument doesn't have a high C - but if you double some of the other high notes an octave lower you bring about a kind of trompe l'oreille, and no-one will miss that top C. If I get chance tonight I'll demonstrate what I mean.

 

 

Right you are. Here's the tune in G on the G/D, melody on the right hand, and a different approach to the left. I sorta like it, even if the fingering is awkward in the B part. Gives it a very different sound.

 

https://dl.dropboxus...ighG_besser.MP3

 

Played on a 30 button Jeffries G/D Anglo.

 

I was being lazy not trying it; Stuart, thanks for nudging me.



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Posted 06 May 2015 - 09:13 PM

Coming back to my own take of this present TOTM and having had it developed, I started more or less with the dots...

 

Wolf:

Thanks very much for this.  I don't have any specific technical comments or questions as there is a lot to digest and to learn from your rendition and the accompanying notes.

 

I do like the fiddle sound that you achieved in the first part. 

 

As far as 'snappy' is concerned - I thought that the tempo was just fine, but somehow the tune sounded happy, especially towards the end.  Nothing wrong with that but it does not lament in the way that Tom Anderson or Alasdair Fraser play it.

 

Don.



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Posted 06 May 2015 - 09:18 PM

A forum member asked me to do a solo version, without the distraction of overdubbed instruments. Happy to oblige:

http://youtu.be/V_JgWBhmVuM

Bob Michel
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Bob:

 

Thanks for this, this slow, careful version with the camera focussed on your left hand is very instructive.

 

The multi-instrument version was really good.  Thanks for doing both.

 

Don.



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Posted 07 May 2015 - 02:54 AM

 

Coming back to my own take of this present TOTM and having had it developed, I started more or less with the dots...

 

Wolf:

Thanks very much for this.  I don't have any specific technical comments or questions as there is a lot to digest and to learn from your rendition and the accompanying notes.

 

I do like the fiddle sound that you achieved in the first part. 

 

As far as 'snappy' is concerned - I thought that the tempo was just fine, but somehow the tune sounded happy, especially towards the end.  Nothing wrong with that but it does not lament in the way that Tom Anderson or Alasdair Fraser play it.

 

Don.

 

Don, thanks a lot for your feedback, which is much appreciated. I must confess that on the one hand I'm more contented with my take here than usual but OTOH was and am feeling that it still doesn't do full justice to the tune in some respect.

 

You're giving me valuable hints as to what to keep and what to change... This morning I found half an hour spare time to slightly shift the feel of my arrangement in the desired direction...

 

Will keep you and anyone insterested updated with a second take which will hopefully be recorded soon.

 

Best wishes - Wolf



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Posted 08 May 2015 - 03:29 PM

So here is my second take - an improvement (at the cost of some minor mistakes as yet) as I hope:

 

Da Slockit Light (2nd version)

 

Thanks a lot for the feedback once again, Jim and Don, which was very helpful for further developing my approach!

 

Best wishes - Wolf

 

(edited just typo)


Edited by blue eyed sailor, 08 May 2015 - 03:30 PM.


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Posted 08 May 2015 - 06:24 PM

So here is my second take - an improvement (at the cost of some minor mistakes as yet) as I hope:

 

Da Slockit Light (2nd version)

 

Thanks a lot for the feedback once again, Jim and Don, which was very helpful for further developing my approach!

 

Best wishes - Wolf

 

(edited just typo)

 

 

Major improvement, Wolf! :)  Let the melody shine through.

 

Chris



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Posted 08 May 2015 - 08:24 PM

So here is my second take - an improvement (at the cost of some minor mistakes as yet) as I hope:

 

Da Slockit Light (2nd version)

 

Thanks a lot for the feedback once again, Jim and Don, which was very helpful for further developing my approach!

 

Best wishes - Wolf

 

(edited just typo)

Oh yes, much improved, much more of a lament feel to it.  The tempo is great and the sad quality comes through.

 

Did I hear you getting a sort of bounced bow effect in places?

 

Once you have a final version then please post an analysis,

 

Thanks,

 

Don.



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Posted 09 May 2015 - 11:25 AM

Thank you very much for the feedback, Chris and Don - I'm very glad with seeming to be on the "right" way...

 

Don, I'm sometimes trying to apply such a "bounced bow effect", not always succsessfull however...

 

Best wishes - Wolf



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Posted 09 May 2015 - 03:44 PM

Here's some notation to get you started...

 

Actually, that looks like a harmony ("2nd fiddle") line. But other examples of notation for the tune have been posted since.

 

Here's my take. As always (or almost always), on my 46-key Wheatstone Hayden.

 

For the first few measures of the B section, I use the "Pachelbel Canon" chords: D-A-Bmin-F#min. Then, of course comes the "secondary dominant" that you can't miss this time because the G# is in the melody (see my notes on the previous TOTM, Harliquin Air).

 

[Edited for typo]


Edited by David Barnert, 01 August 2015 - 09:14 AM.


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Posted 14 May 2015 - 01:44 AM

Da Slockit Light, played on English Concertina and guitar.

 

https://soundcloud.c...a-slockit-light

 

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