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#19 Geoff Wooff

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 10:33 AM

It's looking good Lukasz  !



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Posted 10 April 2014 - 11:57 AM

Cool!  Or is that, kool? B)

 

Nice work so far.  you must be getting excited to put some reeds in and see what it will sound like.

 

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#21 Łukasz Martynowicz

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:06 PM

Thanks Geoff and Greg!

It is still a long way before I put in the reeds because I can only spare a little time each week on this project, but yes, I'm getting really excited - is it going to sound/act terrible or will it prove at least acceptable :)



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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:16 PM

It is still a long way before I put in the reeds because I can only spare a little time each week on this project, but yes, I'm getting really excited - is it going to sound/act terrible or will it prove at least acceptable :)


However - I'd bet you wouldn't have to blame the bellows at least...

Best wishes for future working on your project! Wolf

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:47 PM

Thanks Wolf!



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Posted 10 April 2014 - 07:39 PM

Lukasz

Bravo!


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Posted 19 September 2014 - 05:57 PM

Well, it's been a long time since I've showed something new in this thread, but preparing my own wedding was a bit more important than this project. A little bit ;) But now I'm back on track, so here they are: my art noveau endplates.

 

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 09:57 AM

Oh, very nice indeed...



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Posted 21 September 2014 - 05:13 PM

Thanks for feedback! Much appreciated :)



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Posted 21 September 2014 - 06:34 PM

Beautiful design and immaculate craftsmanship.

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 06:57 PM

Thanks Don! I wouldn't call it "immaculate" but I'm indeed quite happy how it turned out.



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Posted 21 September 2014 - 07:14 PM

Thanks Don! I wouldn't call it "immaculate" but I'm indeed quite happy how it turned out.


If there are any flaws then only you will know them.

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 07:56 PM

Kudos for branching out on fretting. As much as I enjoy the old vintage concertinas, I don't see a need to anachronistically stick with Victorian motifs for all time, so it's great to see a maker using new fretwork designs.

 

I can't tell if it's real or optical illusion from the color of the wood, but is the end curved upwards towards the middle, or is it reasonably flat and just relieved where the vines cross under?



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Posted 22 September 2014 - 05:55 AM

Maybe it is best to show it from another angle:

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Yes, there is a 5mm difference in level between the center and the most outer edge and 4 different (sometimes smoothly connected) levels altogether. Since first pictures I have milled the outer edge more, so now it goes past the screw holes and not through them. 

 

My fretwork isn't based on acoustic principles, as I haven't build a prototype to experiment on dampening/reflection. I intend to use inner baffles if the need for closing some areas should arise. 

 

And I definately agree with you, that there is a lot of opportunities for interesting design of endplates, especially on non-traditional layouts like Hayden or Chromatiphone. OTOH I understand that this is just a result of a market structure: concertina is percieved as a traditional folk instrument and vintage concertinas are a natural reference point. And to be honest, I have chosen art noveau because newer periods in design (except perhaps art deco) do not privide anything as aesthetically pleasing as pre-'60s periods. There is also a practical reason - victorian patterns look good when just cut out flat. Art noveau, floral and art deco designs need substantially more labour to be attractive. Some examples: http://carrollconcertinas.com/64.html , http://www.concertin...per_left_sm.jpg or http://sevenmount.de/?page_id=42 - especially this last link best illustrates, that you need at least a second, engraving pass to make those designs look good. I'm building this instrument for myself, so I can go with 40+hours of carving, but I don't expect any manufacturer to do this… Would you pay 500$ extra just to have a 3D carved ends?



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Posted 22 September 2014 - 08:09 AM

A word of caution:

 

At one time I build myself an instrument , because I could not find  anyone who would make what I wanted  and, of course, I could not afford to have someone else make one  either. Sound familiar Lukasz ?

 

When I had the thing made  some people asked me to make one for them.... 36 years later I am still making them for other people !!  I never made any great amounts of money doing this  but it still took over my life completely .

 

Your project is  coming along well now  !

 

Geoff.


Edited by Geoff Wooff, 22 September 2014 - 08:11 AM.


#34 Łukasz Martynowicz

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 09:17 AM

Thanks for the warning Geoff :D At least you're doing what you like and what you're good at - IMHO that is a lot better way of life than being stuck in a cubical, anonymously moving papers around for 36 years.



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Posted 22 September 2014 - 10:34 AM

While I admire the 3D, it's not something I'd order for myself, as I like a nice flat end. Though I do wonder if it could be done effectively with a scanner communicating to a 3D wood milling machine or whatever.

 

In any case, yes, forward-leaning fretwork can be beautiful. I'm particularly impressed by these fellows:

 

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 10:42 AM

Thanks for the warning Geoff :D At least you're doing what you like and what you're good at - IMHO that is a lot better way of life than being stuck in a cubical, anonymously moving papers around for 36 years.


So, when will you start taking orders?





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